Replies: 14
| visibility 382
|
110%er [6402]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11145
Joined: 6/5/03
|
Philosophical Question
Mar 25, 2022, 10:05 PM
|
|
Why are humans the only creatures on earth that dare not go around naked? And by extrapolation, does the shamefulness of doing so imply some vague acknowledgment of a deity?
I'll toke up and listen.
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [135856]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 41627
Joined: 8/26/07
|
Re: Philosophical Question
Mar 25, 2022, 10:15 PM
|
|
Can’t make money not selling clothes so the powers that be got the priesthood to declare nudity a sin.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6402]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11145
Joined: 6/5/03
|
Re: Philosophical Question
Mar 25, 2022, 10:38 PM
|
|
Are you suggesting that before Catholicism, dudes went around with their manhood swinging in the breeze, and chicks sauntered about with bearded clams exposed to critters of the elements?
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [135856]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 41627
Joined: 8/26/07
|
Re: Philosophical Question
Mar 25, 2022, 11:12 PM
|
|
Have you ever seen a Greek statue?
Or an Egyptian one?
They were all nekkid or topless at the very least.
FYI, there have been priests a lot longer than there have been Catholics
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6402]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11145
Joined: 6/5/03
|
Re: Philosophical Question
Mar 26, 2022, 12:02 AM
|
|
In this case, I highly doubt art imitates life. Those statues may well be nuditious, but I find it hard to believe regular folk were prancin' around the Parthenon with their whatnots all exposed.
Follow up question being, I suppose, if we humans came down from proverbial trees, at what point did we collectively decide to don genitalia-covering garments, when no other garments were required to keep warm?
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22312]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7570
Joined: 3/3/99
|
because we needed a good tan, except for our privates.....
Mar 26, 2022, 2:03 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [29856]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8836
Joined: 10/31/10
|
Re: Philosophical Question
Mar 26, 2022, 12:47 AM
|
|
I used to have a fairly shaggy dog who would hide when he got a haircut. It was like someone had stolen his clothes and he felt naked.
Not exactly sure what he was thinking, but it was kinda odd to say the least. I wonder if sheep feel naked when sheared. Any sheep herders here to pipe in and help us out?
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [29856]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8836
Joined: 10/31/10
|
Re: Philosophical Question
Mar 26, 2022, 12:51 AM
|
|
I will say that the clothing thing only seems to come into play as we get older. I've seen lots of babies running around without clothes, or a care, in the world. Not as a matter of course, but like in the family and such.
Like anything, I suppose if they were never told it was not acceptable I don't know if they would ever care. A lot of societal norms are purely what people tell us to do or not to do, and nothing else.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22312]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7570
Joined: 3/3/99
|
This brings to mind a Lewis Black routine where he's talking
Mar 26, 2022, 1:17 AM
|
|
about the Old Testament, and why such strict rules were put into place, and why they were necessary. Something like - "People were going crazy back then... No, you cannot marry a snapping turtle".
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [12246]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5394
Joined: 9/12/04
|
Early man didn't have nice living accomodations with
Mar 26, 2022, 6:36 AM
|
|
centralized heat and air conditioning. One can't live in the wilds of Scandinavia and walk around naked in the winter - body parts freeze and tend to fall off that way. Heck, I wouldn't want to walk around NC without clothing in the winter and it ain't near as bad as some places...
I believe human clothing came out of necessity to protect one from the elements. Even the hot climate tribes in Africa and the jungles of South America still wear some clothing - no dude wants to walk through a jungle and get his dink snagged on thorny vegetation. In essence, I believe that human clothing habits were initially based on their particular climate and environmental conditions rather than religion.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [11252]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6674
Joined: 11/23/03
|
Re: Early man didn't have nice living accomodations with
Mar 26, 2022, 10:39 AM
|
|
I think your reasoning is reasonable. The practicality of protecting them bawls seems to fit my thinking of a good ideer. That said I hope to be visiting some clothing optional hot springs soon.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7128]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 9690
Joined: 10/6/21
|
Re: Early man / easy living accommodations - that's it
Mar 26, 2022, 9:43 PM
[ in reply to Early man didn't have nice living accomodations with ] |
|
Man reportedly first evolved in equatorial Africa. Clothing was not (and still is not) as necessary in the hot climates with shade. The 'evolution' of clothing correlated with the 'evolution' of changes in skin pigmentation.
Highly pigmented skin protected the body's folic acid from being destroyed (solar radiation reduces the effectiveness of folic acid); therefore dark-skinned mothers had healthier babies (i.e., no spina bifida). The high intensity of equatorial solar radiation was enough for even dark skinned humans to make in vivo vitamin D.
As natural selection led to the proliferation of smarter humans, then using 'coverings' on their bodies helped to reduce (as tabbyplague® so artfully reasoned) damage to ... uh er 'sensitive' anatomical appendages.
Migration in search of more favorable living conditions / availability of food led humans to continue to develop their 'clothing technology' ... this in turn allowed people to move further north and south, which in turn led to further advances in clothing technology.
Lighter skin became genetically advantageous for in vivo vitamin D production in humans in the face of less intense solar radiation. Simultaneously, the less intense solar radiation did not destroy the folic acid in pregnant mothers; therefore babies could be borne of light skinned mothers whose folic acid had not been rendered less effective.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [60226]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 42555
Joined: 11/30/98
|
|
|
|
|
Lot o points [155851]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 65798
Joined: 5/6/13
|
You ever dropped your keys and had them bounce right
Mar 26, 2022, 10:55 AM
|
|
under the middle of your car, in July on a black asphalt parking lot? And you had no choice but to lie down and stretch out as far as you could to reach them?
Try that sans clothes.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [29856]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8836
Joined: 10/31/10
|
Re: You ever dropped your keys and had them bounce right
Mar 26, 2022, 4:13 PM
|
|
Or just sitting on a leather car seat, in August, with no clothes....
|
|
|
|
Replies: 14
| visibility 382
|
|
|