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TNET: Clemson OC Tony Elliott receives raise, Tigers now two of top three salaried assistants

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Feb 4, 2021, 9:13 AM

 
Clemson OC Tony Elliott receives raise, Tigers now two of top three salaried assistants

The Clemson Board of Trustees approved a new contract for Clemson offensive coordinator Tony Elliott Thursday morning, giving Clemson two of the three highest-paid coordinators in the country. Full Story »


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Re: TNET: Clemson OC Tony Elliott receives raise, Tigers now two of top three salaried assistants

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Feb 4, 2021, 9:20 AM

If you want to win in today's game, you have to pay the bucks. Bottom line, if the right school comes knocking, $2-2.5 million will not keep our DC and OC with us but it would have to be the right school.

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The disparity between the coaches and the players pay gets


Feb 4, 2021, 9:20 AM

wider. The players need to be making more.

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Re: The disparity between the coaches and the players pay gets

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:09 AM

How about the poor HS players ?

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HS players aren't generating millions of dollars yearly***

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Feb 4, 2021, 4:04 PM

They aren't generating millions, but they are generating cash for their HS if they are one of the good/elite HS FB teams. And they have to pay their way through HS!!! A good education in today's economy driven world is worth a very lot of money!!! Anybody who thinks that non pro athletes aren't getting their just due, you aren't looking at the big picture in the world business, bc without a good education, you will remain at the bottom of the labor force!!!

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Kyle Stanley, Lucas Glover, Jonathan Byrd, Doc Redman, et al

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:45 AM

Were all Clemson student athletes. Amateur athletes. Paid nothing.

They are all now professional golfers and paid golfers.

If you want to get paid, turn professional. It is a simple concept.

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No, they don't.

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Feb 4, 2021, 12:44 PM

If they don't want the many perks that go along with a football scholarship, they don't have to accept the scholarship. Maybe we should start allowing high school players to skip directly to the NFL, and see how that works out.

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Re: No, they don't.


Feb 4, 2021, 1:22 PM

Interesting to me that people often give a similar response as you just did when talking of paying the players, but we never really see anyone complaining whenever coaches receive raises. Have you ever wanted a raise at your job? Shouldn't you have been happy just to keep making the same salary and enjoying the same benefits at your job as you did when you first started? You should be 100% ok to earn tons of money for your company resulting in your boss getting huge raises while you're told to shut up and be happy with what you already have.

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Re: No, they don't.

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Feb 4, 2021, 1:43 PM

That's a job. College football is not a job - you don't sign on to collect a paycheck, and there is no long-term necessity to keep you on board due to your eligibility clock. College football is free training, free coaching, a free weight program, free and best nutrition and supplement program, a free "interview" broadcast nationally, weekly. Oh, and in case that doesn't work out, it's a free education at a well respected institution.

Yes, in return, those institutions generate revenue which allows the programs to run (and pays for the scholarships and recruiting).

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Re: No, they don't.


Feb 14, 2021, 9:28 AM

It’s not “free”. They work their arses off, and their physical and mental challenges, not to mention the physical damage to their bodies never let them forget. I’m not alone in my opinion. Many, in fact most players, carry ailments and chronic pain forever, and it gets worse as we age. Not griping here, but it cracks me up when I hear the term “free ride”. Nothing free about it.

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Re: No, they don't.


Feb 16, 2021, 9:40 AM

It is absolutely free, financially. Which is what we are discussing. You seem to be starting a completely different conversation.

Yes, they work their arses off. As they should, for two reasons. (1) The returns, the value of the scholarship. (2) The potential generational, life-changing career that may come next.

Playing football is not an obligation, it's a choice. If someone does not want to sacrifice the time, effort, pain, and body impact for the returns, just don't play. Nobody forces you to.

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Re: No, they don't.


Feb 16, 2021, 8:23 PM

Well, the reference to the scholarship as “a free ride” is absolutely false. It comes at a very high price tag. I didn’t say there weren’t benefits associated with it, but that “free ride” comes with a very high price tag. I guess you don’t think so, but I doubt anybody who plays the game thinks it’s free.

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Re: No, they don't.


Feb 4, 2021, 4:07 PM

99% of HS athletes would never get a pro contract without 3-4-5 years of college coaching!!!

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Re: The disparity between the coaches and the players pay gets


Feb 4, 2021, 3:53 PM

What would you guess a college education would be worth over a lifetime, from your statement, I'm guessing that your opinion is, that it wouldn't be worth to much!!!

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Is that a demotion for Pearman though, money-wise?

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Feb 4, 2021, 9:27 AM

or did they do it to make room for spiller. Was Pearman already on the way out or down because of the drama earlier in the football year?

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Re: Is that a demotion for Pearman though, money-wise?

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Feb 4, 2021, 9:52 AM

It's a demotion

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Re: Is that a demotion for Pearman though, money-wise?


Feb 4, 2021, 4:16 PM

I'm going to say that has had some pretty good TEs that has come come through Clemson, and very few have made it to the NFL, or they are having a hard time making it as a TE in the NFL. And, an awful lot of Tiger fans have thought that Pearman wasn't that great of a TEs coach, and it's about time that Dabo has addressed that issue at that position bc, in today's college game, TEs are becoming a big part of the offense!!!

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Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 9:45 AM

We simply don't have 2 million a year for the Men's Track & XC team.

Those were his words. Not mine.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 9:56 AM

That money comes from football...it's the cash cow of the department (same as every other school). Continuing to take from football to support other programs will eventually be a debt that we have to pay, unless revenues rise along with costs. Due to COVID, revenue in 2020 (and in 2021) was way, way down.

Cuts have to be made somewhere. If you don't cut non-rev programs, then you have to reduce costs in rev programs (football). Eventually, that would impact the on-field product and the department budget sheet overall. Like it or not, football is what the fans care about, it's what we pay for, it's what we support. It will always take priority.

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:15 AM

Sad but true...

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:22 AM

Why is that sad? It's always been that way and always will be. You just aren't going to have 80,000 paying fans for a track and field event or girls softball.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....


Feb 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

lol...another truth: Many schools have a point system that require students to attend other sporting events (i.e. women's soccer, golf) to build up points to get their "free" student tickets for football. I think these schools realize the importance of football to their other programs.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:39 AM

Where do you get that this is taking away from football. By your logic, all teams except maybe baseball and basketball is taking from football.

We do agree, this is about the same scenario at every other school. Yet, Clemson is the only school in the Power 5 that will be cutting their Men's Track and XC teams this year.

Our athletic Dept is in the top 20 of revenue the last 5 years. Our athletic has only posted a loss 1 time in the last 20 years (2004). Yet, we can't find a way to support Track and XC.....Give me a break.


Well, here's the news nobody cares about... Now that they've cut these 3 teams, Clemson is now at the NCAA minimum for athletic teams. No more teams can be cut. So, when football needs more, there is nothing left to take but scholarship and budget. Over the next several years, you'll see budget cuts and scholarship cuts, roster limit drops to all other sports, starting with Men's sports (B/c you can't reduce on the women's side or it's going to be an NCAA violation).

Sadly, all if this could have been avoided if IPTAY and the Athletic Dept reached out and said they were in a bind financially (which would be a lie) and asked for donations to help support the track team. There are nearly 500 Alumni that give to Iptay now, but will not in the future b/c of this. But, if they reinstate the team they will not only continue their donations, but will increase them. Further, there are more than 500 alumni who don't give to IPTAY, but will once the team is reinstated.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:55 AM

"By your logic, all teams except maybe baseball and basketball is taking from football."


That is exactly right. Football covers the budget for nearly the entirety of the athletic department - all other sports - combined.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 11:39 AM

And it's no different at any other school. Yet, no cuts are being made, even with those with less revenue.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 14, 2021, 9:37 AM

It also supplements the entire university. Like it or not, many non-athletic aspects at Clemson and other universities depend on that revenue generated by football and the other sports that do generate excess revenue. That doesn’t even consider the public exposure we get from those sports. How many kids, not from SC or adjacent states would be drawn to Clemson, but for the exposure from athletic programs? Not many, IMO

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:57 AM

By the way is was Radacovich who said those words, nobody else.

He said they didn't have the money for the Track team's budget. He later contradicted himself and said the money saved (2.1 million per year) would be divided amongst all other non revenue/Olympic sports.

So, what is it? Do you have the money or not?

B/c apparently they either do have the money, or, all other Olympic sports are not going to get anything from the saving from cutting 3 men's sports.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 11:06 AM

Where do you work? Do you have an IT department, and HR department? Those departments do not generate revenue; they are paid for by the business, by the commercial side of the house.

Now, say business dips way down. Are you going to cut sales (where revenue is generating from), or are you going to try to make reductions in other areas to survive the dip? If you can make your non-rev areas leaner, and focus your assets where they can make money, that's what you do.

Or, say we need to make an investment in IT for some new technology, there's not enough cash to do that, so we cut from HR.


Compare that to our athletic department and you'll see the similarities. Costs needed to be cut, cash needed to be reallocated, and unfortunately it was CC that was impacted.

If more cuts need to be made, you are right, it can't be another sport. It would be the budget for existing sports, or loans. The expectation at this point is that the department has made enough changes to survive in its current form until the economy recovers and covid restrictions are lifted.

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Feb 4, 2021, 11:38 AM

Tell me, why is literally no other Power 5 teams cutting sports right now, much less 3 of them?

Further, the add in the fact how well off we are financially compared to all other Power 5 schools (in the top 5% if judging by Profit) and it makes no sense.

Again, DR lied about the reasoning for the cuts, and now where the money is being reallocated.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 11:46 AM

I don't know why, and I can't agree or disagree with your accusations. I'm just explaining how the budgeting works, and trying to help you understand that football drives the department from a financial standpoint. That's not a theory...it's a fact.

FYI, several other P5 schools cut programs, too. Not a lot, but we aren't alone.

UCONN cut 4 sports (3 men, 1 women)
Iowa cut 4 sports (3/1)
Mich St cut 2 sports (1/1)
Minnesota cut 3 sports (3/0)
Stanford cut 11 sports (4/6/1 coed)



Track it here:
http://almanac.mattalkonline.com/covid-19-era-dropped-sports/

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 12:15 PM

I don't dispute what you're saying from a financial standpoint. I never have.

I disagree in the mechanics where the cuts should have been made and other options were avialble.

1) equitably across the board of all Olympic sports (there is always wasteful spending)
2) a fund raising campaign should have been announced years ago to help Track. I know for a fact, this isn't something they just thought of doing this year. It's been in the works for years now.


All these teams

UCONN cut 4 sports (3 men, 1 women)
Iowa cut 4 sports (3/1)
Mich St cut 2 sports (1/1)
Minnesota cut 3 sports (3/0) - Track & XC was reinstated.

Stanford cut 11 sports (4/6/1 coed) - Stanford had more sports than any other school with 36. This brings them back to 25. Many of these sports didn't have other schools to compete against unless flying all over the country. I could understand some of these cut.

On a personal note, it'll be sad to see the sport I love die the slow death in the coming 20 years. If not for Track I wouldn't have been the first person from my family to graduate from college. I had no money and no means to climb out of the hole I was born into. I thank my lucky stars for track and cross country and I thank my lucky stars for the scholarships that allowed me to graduate with only a $3,500 loan after 5 years.

I guess I should just be thankful for the opportunity I had and shut up.

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Feb 7, 2021, 7:10 AM

I worked as a Co-Op student for my expenses at Clemson. It was possible.
Nobody has mentioned Tuition and Fees! Plus easy money government student loans!
What is charged for all Universities is insane today. Particularly for worthless majors.

Clemson is close to $40K per year out of state. That is what IPTAY pays for most football (and other sports).
Non revenue sports will continue to fail at all levels of the NCAA.
More federal debt is the answer, Joe knows!

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....


Feb 4, 2021, 11:50 AM

This article from 2019 shows we are nowhere close to top 5 in profit. Maybe you were looking at spend?


https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2019/03/who-are-the-richest-and-poorest-power-five-college-football-programs-here-are-all-65-ranked-bottom-to-top.html

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....


Feb 4, 2021, 11:59 AM

You're correct, I was thinking of spend.

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SO - SO FAR - your argument has been wrong about PROFIT vs


Feb 4, 2021, 12:19 PM

SPEND . . . . this is a difference that REALLY makes your entire argument invalid.


AND


There are other schools that are cutting programs like crazy . . . . STANFORD with 11 sports cut.


And I seem to remember in the last 10 months there being several more press releases about programs being cut . . . . but maybe they weren't P5 - maybe they were Group of 6 . . . or under that.

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and his name is Radakovich . . . . but I seem to recall the


Feb 4, 2021, 12:22 PM

board has already talked about your approach to calling him names / spelling his name wrong, etc.

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That's what TigerNet does when they don't like someone.


Feb 4, 2021, 12:50 PM

They misspell their name on purpose or call them a name.

It's really mature.

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I did not realize that Judge Cellar - thanks for the explain.


Feb 4, 2021, 2:34 PM



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You are welcome!


Feb 4, 2021, 3:47 PM

Cheers!



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Re: That's what TigerNet does when they don't like someone.

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Feb 4, 2021, 3:46 PM

What if it was an honest mistake? It's not a common last name.

Thanks for assuming the worst. I can disagree with people and not resort to name calling. Thanks for assuming the worst though.

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I didn't assume the worst.


Feb 4, 2021, 3:51 PM

Rocky the Tiger® did:

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/and-his-name-is-Radakovich-----but-I-seem-to-recall-the-28600341


You should take it up with him.

My post was a commentary on the general approach by posters here, not you specifically.

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Re: I didn't assume the worst.

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Feb 4, 2021, 4:00 PM

Got it. No worries. I thought Rocky was saying that to me, and you were agreeing with him.

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Re: and his name is Radakovich . . . . but I seem to recall the


Feb 4, 2021, 3:51 PM

You must be confusing me with someone else. I'm smart enough to not have to resort to name calling.

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Re: SO - SO FAR - your argument has been wrong about PROFIT vs

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Feb 4, 2021, 3:44 PM

Actually, it doesn't. We've been in the black 19 of the last 20 years. Had no problem making the budget work before.

Matter of fact, things were so good they've added a sport (Women's Softball) a few years ago.

Stanford is a terrible example as they sit at 36 programs. Many of the programs cut have just a handful of competitors across the country.

As far as Track & XC being cut this year, that would be William and Mary and Minnesota. Both were programs reinstated. Schools that bring in a LOT less money than we do.


Looks I get it, 90% of y'all don't give a Chit about anything but football and basketball. So, I'll stop preaching to a crowd that largely doesn't care.

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I sincerely apologize to you TigerCC - it may have been

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Feb 4, 2021, 4:28 PM

mbpeach that was all CC fired up and got animated about DR or Prez JC in a letter to them or a tweet or something . . . right after the cut was announced.



I care about ALL things Clemson - big into our soccer & baseball & softball. I've been to more Clemson softball games in the last 12 months than Clemson football games (thanks covid). . . . but saying we are top 5 in PROFIT when we are really top 5 in SPENDING is a big difference, as you well know.


As an aside - I can ASSURE you, with firsthand experience, IPTAY doesn't give 2 whits of care about the statement of donating or not donating based on certain criteria or stipulations.

As has been stated on here many times by many people - IPTAY seems to have gotten an extremely inflated sense of importance and has lost all sense of Family and where this all started.


Best of luck in getting the program reinstated like those other schools. Sincerely.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....


Feb 4, 2021, 12:03 PM

I hope you don't really think that the majority of the "it's all Clemson football in the world" know or understand about business.

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 3:45 PM

Who? Me? Nah. But nice try though.



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Feb 4, 2021, 2:21 PM

TigerCC® said:

We simply don't have 2 million a year for the Men's Track & XC team.

Those were his words. Not mine.



The way I see it DRad is right. The Athletic Dept. doesn’t have $2 million for the sports they cut because they essentially have those dollars allocated to football, softball, basketball, and soccer going forward. He knew there would be increases in coaching salaries on the horizon.

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Feb 4, 2021, 4:26 PM

If you're going to be competitive in college sports, colleges must cut the college sports that isn't generating it's share of money that keeps it going. I wouldn't have a problem if Clemson dropped every sport that wasn't making enough to support itself. It is about the numbers bottom line, is it in the red, or is it in the black!!!

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Re: Per Dan Radacovich....

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Feb 4, 2021, 4:31 PM

That would be nearly every sport. Football and basketball would probably be the only 2 left.

It's important to have a diverse athletics program.

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Feb 5, 2021, 9:48 AM

Guess Clemson needs to go on and cut baseball (-$1,363,487), men's soccer (-$1,049,430), men's tennis (-$668,090) and men's golf (-$568,444) while they're at it. And every single women's sport. If we're talking about cutting sports that are in the red. And FWIW, two of the four listed here lose more money than track & field+cross country.

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No kidding - he should have gotten a raise to keep him here

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:10 AM

an additional week or 2 before he moves on to his next job.

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:34 AM

Here's Ted Roof:
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Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1987–1988 Alabama (GA)
1989 West Georgia (LB)
1990–1993 Duke (LB)
1994 UMass (LB/RC)
1995–1996 UMass (DC)
1997 Western Carolina (DC)
1998 Georgia Tech (LB)
1999–2001 Georgia Tech (DC)
2002–2003 Duke (DC)
2003 Duke (interim HC)
2004–2007 Duke
2008 Minnesota (DC)
2009–2011 Auburn (DC/LB)
2011 UCF (DC)
2012 Penn State (DC)
2013–2017 Georgia Tech (DC)
2018 NC State (AHC/co-DC/S)
2019 Appalachian State (DC)
2020 Vanderbilt (DC)
2021 Clemson
2022 ?

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Re: TNET: Clemson OC Tony Elliott receives raise, Tigers now two of top three salaried assistants

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Feb 4, 2021, 10:52 AM

Would have been nice for everyone to get a raise but contract extension does make a difference. As for Pearman, it's actually not bad when you consider the alternative, being fired. He likes the area and has valuable knowledge.

It's been pointed out by many posters that we're not in the league of a Bama, OSU, and many many others that have a million athletic donors. I can't think of another school that's got a small budget as ours that go to the playoffs every year. Thank you Dabo. Great coach but probably better manager.

Yeah, would like to see kids get more of a stipend but the only fair way to do it is a national standard... And this year many small schools are hurting revenue wise. For the ones out there that want name likeness crap - you'd ruin football and as Dabo says, it's a team sport.

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MAN....Pearman got WHACKED!


Feb 4, 2021, 10:53 AM

Any insights? I have my own theory, but in case he is dropping his coaching repsonsibilities because something is happening on the health/personal front, I don't want to add to his burden.

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Dropping XC and T&F


Feb 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

Will have negative consequences at some point.

Where are the big money donors? Nobody got a few extra mills sitting around?

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Re: Dropping XC and T&F


Feb 4, 2021, 3:58 PM

There are 100's that are going to pull Iptay donations. If they reinstate the program, there will maintain their donations or increase them in the coming years.

Should they reinstate the team, there are several hundred more that will commit to donating for the first time with the commitment of 5 years.

When asked what number was needed to reinstate the Men's TF & XC teams, he said it needed to be 60-70 million to make the endowment work. That number seems high to me, but maybe 3.3% return is safe.

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Over and under...


Feb 4, 2021, 11:33 AM

Dabo took care of his assistant’s to keep them. Pearman was demoted but here’s something you can do.
Monte Lee..... we’ll give you another year with NO raise. Be happy you still got a job cause you best get to winning some baseball games!

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Over and under...


Feb 4, 2021, 11:33 AM

Dabo took care of his assistant’s to keep them. Pearman was demoted but here’s something you can do.
Monte Lee..... we’ll give you another year with NO raise. Be happy you still got a job cause you best get to winning some baseball games!

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Re: TNET: Clemson OC Tony Elliott receives raise, Tigers now two of top three salaried assistants


Feb 4, 2021, 12:15 PM

Take that Tennessee! Your McDonald's bags can't hold coinage like that.

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Feb 4, 2021, 12:33 PM

Good for Tony

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Honestly, I understand the complaint

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Feb 4, 2021, 4:02 PM

by TigerCC®.

It doesn't make sense to cut sports on the basis of not being able to afford them, and then give an offensive coordinator a $300,000 raise.

It's not like we weren't already paying Tony Elliott really well. And we are in the middle of a pandemic, so I'm sure if money were truly tight we could've told Tony that we will take care of him when revenues return to normal.

I am sure this post won't be popular with many here. Someone will twist it to say that I'm being a meanie about football, and someone else will state the obvious that football is king. But this situation is definitely what some would call "bad optics."

If Clemson wants to cut a sport, for whatever reason, just say so. Don't try to make it about a lack of money when it doesn't seem to be.

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In the most simplest terms


Feb 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

I'm convinced this has been in the works for some time. AD DR tried to cut Men's and Women's track at GT, he got so much pushback from the athletic dept and coaches and alumni. Still, he cut the roster limits in half and removed all scholarships.

The overwhelming majority of coaches and staff at GT are happy Dan is gone. Further, the regrets the decisions made to the track teams and have been working to restore to former roster sizes and scholarships numbers.

It's my belief women's softball was added so they could then cancel Men's XC, indoor & Outdoor track and still land at the NCAA minimum. Canceling 3 men's sports, and adding a cheaper women's sports would save money they could then funnel back into football without tripping any Title 9 alarms.

I've seen it happen at JMU and Ga State, even when Title 9 officer's recommendations were to NOT make cuts to any sports, that they were compliant. So, yes, I'll admit I have more knowledge than most on the subject and I'm jaded by past experiences.

Further, I simply hate to see my alma matter cut the sport that provided so much for me, but I know it can do the same for 35-45 others each year. To say this is painful is not even close to description.

And yes, I love Clemson football too. This isn't an either/or situation in my mind. More steps could have been done to save these sports, without taking away from others.

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Feb 4, 2021, 4:15 PM

It is now more difficult for other teams to sign him away as a head coach. They we have to offer him way more than 3 mil for a first year head coach. Who would be willing to take that risk?

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From Clemson's perspective, that's either a good thing


Feb 4, 2021, 4:17 PM

or it isn't.

We will see.

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