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Legend [18790]
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Our offensive guards....especially on the left side
Nov 12, 2020, 8:44 PM
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really need to play better. Often times, the LG can't move his feel fast enough and the QB gets sacked at the absolute worst times.
Also, ETN needs to run around the OL because oftentimes this LG can't hold a block.
This LG isn't very good at all and surprised that he gets so much playing time. Does being a redshirt senior give us enough film to know he is not good?
Not calling out anyone by name, but wow, would have been great having a good LG this year. =)
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Legend [19901]
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WRONG BORED MORAN!
Nov 12, 2020, 8:48 PM
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Take it to P&R >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Legend [19901]
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Lighten up Francis
Nov 12, 2020, 8:56 PM
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I was just poking fun!
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Legend [18790]
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I know***
Nov 12, 2020, 9:02 PM
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Legend [19901]
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Re: I know***
Nov 12, 2020, 10:56 PM
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I TU'd this for you because I get your point.
We're having some challenges on the lines for sure, but we'll get better.
GO TIGERS!
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Legend [16134]
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Why don't they ever delete posts where people trash the
Nov 12, 2020, 8:49 PM
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basketball players by name? I'm sure Clyde Trapp wouldn't mind if he didn't see half the posts on the front page of the board openly describing their opinion of him...But God forbid you mention Cade Stewart by name
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Legend [18790]
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I fixed it. I will NEVER mention a player by name unless he
Nov 12, 2020, 8:53 PM
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is an all-American and I have glowing things to say about him.
This way discussions here will be awesome!!!!
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Legend [16134]
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Well, this IS an adulation board and not a discussion board.
Nov 12, 2020, 10:15 PM
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oh wait
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Oculus Spirit [76935]
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Legend [18790]
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Why logic must be an abstract concept to you then....
Nov 12, 2020, 8:57 PM
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Let me put it to you in a simpler way. Rules on TNET should be applied equally across all players regardless of sport.
If you need further explanation then TMail me.
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Oculus Spirit [76935]
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Re: Why logic must be an abstract concept to you then....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:03 PM
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Oh, you misunderstood. I understood what you said, I said there was no logic in it.
There is no T-net rule regarding how grown men should respect the fact that we are discussing kids. That’s implied.
South of that is, well...
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Legend [18790]
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We are talking about play not the person....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:09 PM
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why on earth is that so hard for you to understand?
TNET would be a boring place if all we talked about is how great each player played.
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Oculus Spirit [76935]
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Re: We are talking about play not the person....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:14 PM
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Well, actually you are talking about person and their lack of play. I’m disagreeing with you.
HTH
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Legend [18790]
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With all do respect....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:34 PM
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what the heII are you talking about?
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Oculus Spirit [76935]
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Re: With all do respect....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:41 PM
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Think you meant due.
Your definition of respect and mine differ. Maturity isn’t inherent, I know, but one can dream.
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Legend [18790]
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Nothing wrong with that at all....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:35 PM
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if everyone agreed all the time what fun would TNET be?
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Legend [16134]
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Re: like that #### is going to figure TMail out..."Is that on
Nov 12, 2020, 10:49 PM
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Legend [16134]
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Re: Seems to be a you issue guy, try moving your lips when you
Nov 12, 2020, 10:40 PM
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I concede....
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Re: Our offensive guards....especially on the left side
Nov 12, 2020, 8:56 PM
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I believe our backup center played left guard for most of the notre Dame Game, otherwise Bockhorst is in there, albeit talented, a work in progress.
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Re: Our offensive guards....especially on the left side
Nov 12, 2020, 9:01 PM
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Like in this play? I think it's 62 but I could be wrong.
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Re: Our offensive guards....especially on the left side
Nov 12, 2020, 9:08 PM
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Cade Stewart is 62, he replaced Bockhorst. Then he went out and we ended up playing a true freshman for a while. This has definitely been a rebuilding year for the Oline, But I am confident they will be playing much better after a couple weeks in the film room and some time to heal. We seem to go through this every year, but yeah, our interior has been a major weakness in the run game.
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Re: Our offensive guards....especially on the left side
Nov 12, 2020, 9:13 PM
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Still don't understand why they would move an incapable center to LG and not give Tchio a chance. He certainly couldn't have been worse.
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Re: Our offensive guards....especially on the left side
Nov 12, 2020, 9:15 PM
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Tchio played in the second half, I was wrong about him being a true freshman, he is a redshirt.
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Legend [18790]
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Look, I am tired and understand what everyone is saying.....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:32 PM
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It's hard to second-guess one of the best coaching staffs in the country and I love my Tigers.
But do I have a right to say player A isn't playing well without it being deleted? Well, they can decide.
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Re: Look, I am tired and understand what everyone is saying.....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:48 PM
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I dont disagree with you, but I also think we dont have Muscoot as a coach, so what we see out there likey IS the best combination of line. I just think that frankly none of them are much more than above average, and that is mostly because Carman has a lot of upside, just seems SLOW. Speed guys kill him, at least this year. Maybe he's been hurt, who knows? The rest? Being blunt, previous seasons anytime I saw Stewart in there, or Morris I knew a penalty or bad play was coming. This year Stewart has played better (sorta) but the rest of the line isnt strong enought to cover for him. Coaches have what they have, and for all of the Caldwell love from recruits, I just dont see big nasties out there year in and year out. Just my armchair take on it.
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Re: Look, I am tired and understand what everyone is saying.....
Nov 12, 2020, 10:04 PM
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I really feel like we are turning the corner here because the guys we have on scholarship for the most part were national recruits. But it is disappointing to see our Juniors under performing, and it taking until late November every year to get the ground game going against a solid Dline. In their defense, they have no functional depth to work with this year. We have freshman backing up our starters at almost every position. We needed a couple more scholarship linemen on this roster and had the room to do it.
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Legend [16134]
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Why don't we have experienced/functional depth? Our
Nov 13, 2020, 1:04 AM
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recruiting is the best it's ever been and we play more people than anybody, it just doesn't make any sense at all...Who fell asleep at the wheel?
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Re: Look, I am tired and understand what everyone is saying.....
Nov 13, 2020, 12:24 AM
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Yeah, similar opinion on JC; believe it was the BC game, he was (from the snap) straight bull rushed 5 yds behind the line of scrimmage & into DJ for a sack(BC end was giving up 50lbs easy)-it was quick, leaving no time to advance the pocket + it was DJ's blindside
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Re: Our offensive guards....especially on the left side
Nov 13, 2020, 8:58 AM
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^^^
On this play, the guard pulled to lead the running back and totally wiffed his block. The TE didn't do any better at blocking. The play went for naught. Pulling our guards was futile. Many times the center got pushed back into the backfield making the guard have to run around him. When they did get to their block they were highly ineffective whether they were blocking a lineman, a linebacker, or a DB. They usually just blocked the path of the running back.
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Legend [16032]
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We get it. You have an issue with LG...
Nov 12, 2020, 9:02 PM
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...point made. Move on.
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Legend [18790]
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Fine but the issue is....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:06 PM
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with TNET erasing a post just because I said the "LG" isn't good. Its not personal because I couldn't block anyone either.
I don't know about you, but that's being more than a little sensitive.
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Oculus Spirit [76935]
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No clue
Nov 12, 2020, 9:12 PM
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What you are talking about, but in general it’s just hit or miss. It’s just a message bored. I’m sure the Mods, if they watch the film, will admit it was a bad call deleting you LT post.
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What happened PBT ? You used to be a solid poster. What you
Nov 12, 2020, 9:37 PM
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SAID was that one of our guys, you called by name, shouldn’t be wearing a Clemson uniform.
And you were basing this off of watching one game.
Revisionist history much ??? Are you sober right now ?
Crump & B-Meist have said, almost above all else, that bashing of players & coaches will never be allowed.
You bashed from the top rope. Should never wear a Clemson uniform.
Wow.
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Re: What happened PBT ? You used to be a solid poster. What you
Nov 13, 2020, 12:33 AM
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I wish I could point you more than once .
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Legend [16134]
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I'll say it again, that's standard fare during basketball
Nov 13, 2020, 12:59 AM
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season...Why do people get so offended when it is done to football players but have no problem piling on and upvoting posts about the caliber of play of certain basketball players?
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All-In [32650]
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It should stop - period. It is the rules. Sport shouldn’t
Nov 13, 2020, 7:54 AM
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matter.
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have you considered writing a letter to Dabo?
Nov 12, 2020, 9:22 PM
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perhaps your insight will help Dabo win a conference championship or maybe even more? Dabo obviously needs some good football advice.
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Legend [18790]
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Here we go....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:28 PM
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I get the sarcasm and in general, never post about the negative play of any player.
We have the best coaching staff in the country, in my opinion, and would not trade them for any in the country.
That being said if player A is not playing well then what is wrong with saying so?
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Re: Here we go....
Nov 12, 2020, 9:49 PM
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All-TigerNet [11067]
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what good does it do?
Nov 12, 2020, 9:50 PM
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I am sure there are 3 dozen people close to that player that have 10,000 times the football knowledge you have that will work with him.
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Re: what good does it do?
Nov 13, 2020, 1:15 AM
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A good thought but a 5th year SR at this point in the season has likely reached peak collegiate potential/maxed out. No fault of his own, He's overachieved considerably as his Clemson career winds down. Still the harsh reality is at best his ceiling ideally should have been as a dependable reserve/ rotational w/ minimal snaps. Instead he's a day 1 starter & on the field for 60-75 snaps & physical limitations will show-
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Re: Here we go....
Nov 13, 2020, 7:05 AM
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PBT , people have no problem with saying a player isn’t playing well. The problem was your original comment that the kid should never be in a Clemson uniform. You mentioned the coaching staff so try this logic. Would a coach tell a player he needs to play better? Of course. They would then explain where and how he needs to improve. Would a coach tell a player he should never be in a Clemson uniform?? I think you know the answer.
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Re: Here we go....
Nov 13, 2020, 9:20 AM
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I would agree that the OL has not been as strong as hoped for. However, what's your solution Pacific? I think you would probably agree that Coach Caldwell and Coach Swinney are putting out the best of what they have and are coaching them hard. If there was a player performing better in practice, he would be on the field. Despite the OL, we still put up 40 points against ND. That should have been enough. I guess next you'll be on ETN's case over fumbles. I get your point, but would venture to say that even if you personally had lunch everyday with Dabo and Caldwell that your view would not help to "advance the ball." The results at this point may not be what we want as fans, but the effort is there. If that were not the case, other players would be on the field.
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