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One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell
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One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 11:45 AM

I truly believe the reason they aren't firing Brad Brownell right now is because this University is worried this Basketball Program will lose PJ Hall and it we will be in the dumpster.... Change my mind.

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Mar 23, 2022, 11:48 AM

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You’re wrong again.


Mar 23, 2022, 12:08 PM

Clemson80Tiger

This is my only user name.

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Mar 23, 2022, 12:23 PM

fno

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 11:50 AM

But isn't it already a dumpster fire?? lmao

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 1:52 PM

Yes. 17-16 and 9-13 in one of the worst ACCs in history is a complete dumpster fire. The program is bigger than one player but not bigger than an incompetent coach.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 11:51 AM

If PJ was some national player of the year or something I could see it but other than that I dont see why.

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Every team, every year will have at least one good player


Mar 23, 2022, 11:53 AM

(hopefully) so I don't agree. You could have said the same about Simms two years ago.

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At times, the team actually looked/played better...


Mar 23, 2022, 11:58 AM

without Hall in the lineup.

That DOES NOT mean I want to lose him to the transfer portal.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 12:00 PM

If pj hall wasn't on the team then I would say fire brownell.

PJ Hall is the best nba prospect we have had in 20 years. I think he's slightly better than booker.

He wasn't 100% all year. If healthy, he's going to be great next year.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 12:04 PM

How is 28% possible ?

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I've seen lower pulses***


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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 12:19 PM [ in reply to Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell ]

Tell me you don't know basketball without telling me you don't know basketball. This kid is a solid player, much improved over his freshman year and that is it. He cannot finish within 3 feet, he gets pushed around inside, doesn't box out, way too emotional when he's on a roll and complains like Lebron James when touched. He's got potential but to say the best prospect in the last 20 years? Come on man.

Trevor Booker
Amir Simms
KJ McDaniels
Jaron Blossomgame

All much better NBA prospects then PJ Hall will ever be.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 12:27 PM

I think Amir Simms would like a word with you.

Amir has already been on the record saying that PJ is already better than he was as a senior.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 2:34 PM

What do you expect him to say? I think he was being nice

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 24, 2022, 10:47 PM

Remember when DW4 said that about Kelly Bryant?

Wow. Talk about undeserved praise.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 2:06 PM [ in reply to Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell ]

Hall is a sophomore. He has time to improve.

I agree he's not an NBA talent at this point but comparing him to Booker and Sims when they were seniors isn't fair.

He's at or ahead of where they were as sophomores.

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I tend to agree with you...


Mar 23, 2022, 2:11 PM [ in reply to Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell ]

He is certainly not the best NBA prospect because, well, the NBA doesnt really want him right now and he's not a projected pick in anyones 2023 mock drafts either. He's very good and certainly versatile.

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Re: I tend to agree with you...


Mar 24, 2022, 11:22 AM

Yes, that's why he's a prospect.

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But, if the NBA doesnt appear to want at any time...


Mar 28, 2022, 3:07 PM

within the next two years....then he's probably not playing in the NBA.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 12:04 PM

If so, that's an extremely poor reason. I wanted Brownell to work, but it's been too much of the same for too long. To give him a little credit, we have improved at free throw shooting as of late.

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If we aren't firing him because


Mar 23, 2022, 12:07 PM

we are worried that an Honorable Mention All-ACC player will move on from the program, than we have bigger problems than just our incompetent basketball coach!!!

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 12:14 PM

and if that was the based decision than PJ Hall could be one major injury away from going whoops bad mistake. You never make a decision like that on just one player. If our BOT made the decision and not Neff, hope that doesn't mean he is going to be a puppet AD. Hope it was more because it was his first year on the job and the BOT said you need more time. Let Neff do his job...

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 12:35 PM

We very well could lose P.J. but while a player of his caliber would be hard to lose, one player alone can not make up for the other players not contributing.
And the team was already in the dumpster by the caliber of play we saw this season as well as much of the past 11-12 seasons.
And add to that a good coach can recruit more than one P.J. Hall.

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Heres the thing about PJ Hall and Brownell ...


Mar 23, 2022, 12:35 PM

Clemson should never fear missing out on an in state star like PJ Hall. It should be a given that players from this state look first to Clemson (or SCAR) when they are being recruited.

The fact that actually signing a Palmetto State player like PJ Hall is considered such an earth-shattering career-saving accomplishment says a great deal about college hoops at Clemson and in South Carolina.

It tells you all you need to know about why the Clemson program remains so solidly mired in mediocrity.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 12:36 PM

No, answer is that Neff needs to have one full year following departure of DRad for any decision to be fully his. In this way he has time to set the parameters with Brownell for next year (hopefully this has already been done) and if not met then Brad is for Neff to deal with after next BB season. All within normal protocall.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 23, 2022, 1:20 PM

But what kind of meaningful parameters can you set for a coach with no history of success starting in year 13? And his contract has to be addressed sooner than later. So if we make the tourney next year he secures a 2-3 year extension and we perpetuate this nonsense endlessly. If the athletic department has been withholding some magic bullet that makes us instantly better should we celebrate and applaud or fire all of them for withholding it for 13 years? Remember, Neff has been a senior member of the AD and had direct oversight of the basketball program for 9 years? Any kind of extension next year, short of an ACC title or deep run into the NCAA tourney, is gonna be met with outrage. You don’t get to secure another 3-5 years and $9-$15 million dollars (which is essentially what any further extension will do) for limping into the tourney and going home the first weekend. Sometimes it’s just time to move on. All we’re doing now is generating an unprecedented level of antipathy between a fanbase and coach.

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Brownell is your coach


Mar 25, 2022, 7:05 AM

Support the program. This constant whining about him not getting fired is pathetic and not a good look. Just check the history of Clemson basketball. Brownell has done way more with the program than any other coach in Clemson history. Hunter Tyson coming is huge for the program. The lunatic fringe just needs to go ahead and jump off the cliff. Clemson basketball would much better off.

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Re: One Main Reason We Aren't Firing Brownell


Mar 24, 2022, 10:58 PM

OMG!!! He may be reading this...Be careful

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