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Re: Nothing to see here
Nov 9, 2021, 1:00 PM
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It’s the vaccines. The vaccines are absolutely causing heart problems in too many people.
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Oculus Spirit [97716]
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Considering you have a 1 in 6,000 risk of heart inflammation
Nov 9, 2021, 2:01 PM
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from the vaccine, and considering you have a 15% change of heart inflammation with a natural covid infection, your call I guess.
Covid causes heart problems, especially in the younger and older population. No one chooses to recall when Ohio State almost cancelled their football season in 2020. They did that because they did a study and found 15% of their athletes who had covid and recovered (before vaccines), showed signs of myocarditis. And since the vaccines are...well....covid, then yeah, I expect much the same. But the heart problems are at a much lower rate with the vaccine.
And just like Putin said....you're going to either get a vaccine, or get covid. There is no third option really. You may get covid, then a vaccine, then covid again. Each time it will have an impact on your heart. Your choice.
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Re: Considering you have a 1 in 6,000 risk of heart inflammation
Nov 9, 2021, 2:06 PM
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I don’t have stats , only observations. I can tell you that about a month ago I had an echocardiogram. I asked the tech if she’s doing a lot of them on Covid patients? She said a few but I’m doing more on vaccine patients. Did she lie, stretch the truth ? Maybe? Maybe not? I just know I’ve seen many with side effects and a couple of deaths from the vaccine. That’s just in my corner of the world. But as you say , everybody needs to make the choice they feel comfortable with.
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All-In [40929]
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My wife ended up in the hospital the same day she got
Nov 9, 2021, 6:39 PM
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shot number 2 with heart problems. She was in the first group to get vaccinated because she was a nurse. The heart problem cleared up. She is not on any stat list though I don't think.
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Re: Considering you have a 1 in 6,000 risk of heart inflammation
Nov 9, 2021, 4:01 PM
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My son is a D1 athlete who plays football...and he had COVID last year. He wasn't quite as sick as Xavier Thomas or Justin Foster but he was still really sick for a week...and ended up having to have an EKG that thankfully came back clean.
Up that ways - I'll tell you he plays up North - they were really worried about liability because several D1 athletes had come back with heart damage, and the schools were increasingly worrying about liability...again, as you stated, exactly why the B1G almost scrapped their season. If somebody had died on them after those cases, they were in serious hot water, legally.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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Gaines Adams died from the vaccine 11 years ago, TIL.***
Nov 9, 2021, 1:22 PM
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the rate at which these are happening and the
Nov 9, 2021, 1:27 PM
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amount of diversity aren't of concern. You are right. This is just a Gaines Adams type of situation. Thank you for contributing.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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You're welcome.***
Nov 9, 2021, 1:29 PM
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Re: Nothing to see here
Nov 9, 2021, 1:51 PM
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First…you post a video from Rumble, which is the go to place for the OANN and conspiracy crowd these days…so first red flag.
Second…one only has to watch until the third scene showing the collapse of the Danish soccer player to call BS on the whole thing. The player, Christian Erickson was unvaccinated at the time of the incident. If I had time to research more of the ‘examples’ they show, I’ve no doubt we could find more lies, but this was the only one I recalled seeing in the news when it happened.
I’m not saying there might not be the odd case or cases out there, but this video is nothing but hyperbolic garbage. People on both sides of the aisle talk here all the times about how mis/disinformation is causing havoc and you are actively perpetuating the issue.
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Re: Nothing to see here
Nov 9, 2021, 3:33 PM
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Kingsley Coman was included, he had an outpatient ablation for an ectopic pacemaker/atrial dysrrhythmia, not even remotely covid or vaccine related.
This is just more antivaxx conspiracy scare tactic stuff.
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Re: Nothing to see here
Nov 9, 2021, 3:55 PM
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No idea who that is but the vaccine is absolutely causing some heart complications. I’m not saying the numbers are huge but the numbers are big enough to pay attention. If you want to throw some big cardiac words at me to impress me go for it. I promise I’ll understand anything you want to throw out there related to cardiac health.
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Re: Nothing to see here
Nov 9, 2021, 4:13 PM
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I think it’s fine to raise legitimate and reasoned concerns/questions, in fact it’s encouraged. I’m also sure there are some limited number of people who have reacted negatively to the vaccine…no different than any other really. But that’s not what the OP was about. There’s only one reason to make a video like that and it’s certainly not to promote honest discussion.
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: Nothing to see here
Nov 9, 2021, 4:45 PM
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That may be. It also could be true that I’m hypersensitive to the issue. I’ve just seen a really high number of vaccine issues in my circle including 2 deaths.
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Re: Nothing to see here
Nov 9, 2021, 5:24 PM
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So who are we supposed to believe is "raising legitimate and reasoned concerns/questions?" The government? The "science" followers of the left?
Can't trust govies:
When the government has told us masks don't work, do work, don't work all the time, do work some time, ...
When the government gives zero immunity credit to people who have had COVID compared to vaccinated people.
When the POTUS is incoherent and VEEP is worse. Come on Man!
The left has no credibility on anything scientific any more. They have peer reviewed journals that are self-licking ice cream cones. The lefties all major in poly sci, social justice, gender studies, etc. so it makes sense these people have no idea what they are talking about on most real topics.
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Re: Nothing to see here
Nov 9, 2021, 5:58 PM
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I take issue with some of that, but let’s just say all of your concerns/criticisms are warranted…who you gonna trust on the right/other side…Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Glenn Beck, Ben Shapiro, etc? Any of those guys have agendas or audiences to win over? They care about their wallets and egos…not much more.
As for experts on the left or the right…some have agendas and/or some special interest lining their pockets…but the vast majority (yes I believe that) really do follow the data/research to see where it leads.
When you give up on science, what do you have left? The right thinks science is being manipulated to satisfy some sinister agenda. Ask yourself this…throughout history when science/breakthrough was questioned/ridiculed/outlawed…how often was the science proven correct (eventually) and those who opposed just afraid of change or losing power/money? You’d like to think we live in an age where science would be revered and beyond the reach of those with their own agendas…sadly we are not.
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The video literally starts with a clown face
Nov 9, 2021, 5:13 PM
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You could easily make an argument that the video is meant to be a parody or troll of the antivaxxers who believe the vaccine is more dangerous than covid. I certainly would not want to be the one who posted that video on other message boards or social media for fear of being exposed as an idiot.
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