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New Story: Brutally Honest: Venables "P.O.'s" players in telling the truth
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New Story: Brutally Honest: Venables "P.O.'s" players in telling the truth

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Nov 17, 2015, 6:07 PM

 
Brutally Honest: Venables "P.O.'s" players in telling the truth

Defensive coordinator Brent Venables doesn’t sugar coats things, instead opting for being honest and upfront about his players and his defense. On Tuesday, he was brutally honest. Photo by Jeremy Brevard / USATODAY
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I think we are going to see a much more intense d again!

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Nov 17, 2015, 6:18 PM

Venables told them the truth - "lost their edge!" Good for Coach V. and for the players to hear the truth!

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Re: I think we are going to see a much more intense d again!

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Nov 17, 2015, 6:54 PM

Hope so. It can only improve. The last couple weeks (NCSt and SYR) they have not looked good and have given up some big plays.

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Seems we are missing that senior leadership we had last year***


Nov 18, 2015, 7:59 AM



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Re: New Story: Brutally Honest: Venables "P.O.'s" players in telling the truth

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Nov 17, 2015, 6:21 PM

Ahhhh, poor Demon Deacs! He should've waited until Saturday night to have this conversation. WF is going to get the brunt of this. I'd rather it be the chickens! Oh well, Go tigers!

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Well I hope so but not so sure

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Nov 18, 2015, 10:43 AM

Wake is not that bad - lost to Louisville by 1, FSU by 8. The 39 point spread seems way too high to me.

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Frantic, desperate, terrified, and humble - NOW!

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Nov 17, 2015, 6:27 PM

This bunch of Tiger defenders are great, but they can't wait and WISH they "would have" or "could have" - they have to do it today and everyday!
At practice - in the film room - in pre-game - LIVE IT!
Preach on, Coach V!
Can somebody give him an Amen?

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Re: Frantic, desperate, terrified, and humble - NOW!

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Nov 17, 2015, 7:29 PM

Amen!

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Re: Frantic, desperate, terrified, and humble - NOW!


Nov 18, 2015, 9:25 AM

And a raise! Need to be sure he stays. While we're at it give Bill Snider at K State a raise and years of good health.

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A couple of guys have gone 'rogue' and doing their own thing

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Nov 17, 2015, 6:28 PM

Venables knows, we know and now it sounds like a few of his guys know...DROP THE BAM HAMMER ON WF!!

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Brutally Honest wait! Can I say " pissed off"?

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Nov 17, 2015, 6:30 PM

And I have seen that. The D See's the offense scoring on everyone and they relax. I've been there. I did it my self. He's right and I feel better about the D. GO TIGERS!!!

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!!!! This guy said a no no word! Quick! Someone post 6


Nov 17, 2015, 6:48 PM

Threads about class! But all bs aside this is fantastic news and it gives me hope that we could see our best defense at the very end of the year.

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good read

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Nov 17, 2015, 6:38 PM

Thanks Nikki!

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Might be a good game to sit a few starters for a series...


Nov 17, 2015, 6:52 PM

to reinforce the ideas of humility, teamwork, and focus

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well

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Nov 17, 2015, 7:09 PM

They'd call him a coot on tigernet. Anytime you say something true and not positive on this board, everybody goes ape $hit!!

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"The internet gave the world a voice....and that voice just whines and complains."


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Nov 17, 2015, 7:14 PM

Well........if they play better p###ed......cough, cough...... You pitiful excuses for football players will forever live in the shadow of last year's defense....... Now go prove me wrong. Or can you?

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Nov 17, 2015, 7:26 PM

Not true. It's one thing for a coach whose job it is to prepare the players, and who sees them everyday say something, and a whining fan who keeps making posts bitching about stuff. I have a 91% pulse and don't think I've been called a coot, but I don't always say things are great all the time. But I also don't ##### about too much when we are undefeated and ranked #1 for the first time in nearly 4 decades.

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Nov 17, 2015, 7:29 PM

And it's also very suspect when a poster signs up for the site in the middle of our best season in decades and the majority of the posts said poster makes are "concerns" that the team isn't playing well.

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Nov 17, 2015, 7:59 PM

Don't hurt any coot feelings;)

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Nov 17, 2015, 8:02 PM

Yeah I get so sick at that concern garbage, or using "we" in the same sentence they criticize the team like they're a Tiger but being brutally honest, when they're just troll coots.

Anyway, glad to read this... hope we crush Wake Forest. Everybody should have already been fired up to play the lamecocks but I'm sure this will just help get and keep the D focused. Crush Wake, then destroy the coots... 49-0 is my prediction! :D

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Venables to TigerNet:


Nov 17, 2015, 8:16 PM

"You're constantly fighting handling success. Even my [TigerNet buddies] are like, 'We're going to kill these guys. They suck. They're terrible. So and so beat them by 20.' I just snap. I hate that."

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Re: New Story: Brutally Honest: Venables "P.O.'s" players in telling the truth

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Nov 17, 2015, 8:18 PM

I think what happened at Syracuse could be one of the best things that has happened to us at this point in the season...we were, we are, on a roll, and needed a wake-up call before the final stretch. Hopefully BV's tutelage and arse-kicking lit the fire they needed to fire them up for the championship stretch.

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Nov 17, 2015, 8:23 PM

BRAVO BRENT! Focus is crucial from here on out.

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Re: You can't get yesterday back

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Nov 17, 2015, 8:42 PM

Tomorrow is not a guarantee,Play with vengeance and an attitude today, Leave it all on the field, Have no regrets. How do you want to be remembered? Champion or almost Champion? It's a simple choice.

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Nov 17, 2015, 8:54 PM

Exactly right. In games we've played to WIN we have been awesome. The ones we've played NOT TO LOSE we've been embarrassing. #1 is a challenge. We are everybody's game of the year. WF,SC, and NC would LOVE to ruin our chances. If you think for a minute the football gods would keep US in the final 4 with a loss you're crazy. Even though we beat them, if we lose a game Notre Dame will jump ahead of us and be in the playoffs without having to play a conference championship game. If we lose and ND loses another it will be someone from the Pac12. #1, maybe. Lose a game now and see how much respect we will get. They are dying for us to lose and if THAT doesn't put that chip back where it belongs nothing will. Play angry, play desperate, and play for each other.

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Nov 18, 2015, 1:15 PM

You bet. Everyone out there wants to knock off #1. I love BV's approach. I think all successful coaches and managers need to know when to praise and when to be critical. BV has the timing down pat, IMO. The players need their emotional batteries and minds recharged. A kick up the butt just might get things started again. I fully expect a big performance against Wake on Saturday. The Demon Deacons will not enjoy this visit to Death Valley.

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Love the fire in tank - but lets peak after Wake***

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Nov 17, 2015, 9:11 PM



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Re: Love the fire in tank - but lets peak after Wake***

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Nov 17, 2015, 10:51 PM

I can't help but think that this was well timed. The whole coaching staff is so intentional about everything it's hard to believe they haven't seen the defense coasting the last few weeks and hoped that the team leadership would get it fixed before the kick in the pants came from the coach.

Plus, building to a new level over three games seems about right. They are all trap games...only memorable in the long run if one of them is the one that ruins our run.

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Read closely...

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Nov 17, 2015, 9:15 PM

This is way more than football. That is advice for every stage of life- particularly the last part about staying hungry for success and keeping that edge that drives you. It's so good and you just respect him so much because he doesn't use coach speak, he's just incredibly real.

BV- life coach.

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Preach it BV! Maintain the will to win!

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Nov 17, 2015, 9:45 PM

Go tigers!

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Nov 17, 2015, 11:36 PM

Best interview I have ever seen! Gets to the heart of what it takes to consistently win.
JH

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Wow. BV is going to be a haleuva good HC someday - just


Nov 18, 2015, 12:19 AM

hope it isn't soon.

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That's OK BV, I po'd a lot of people on

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Nov 18, 2015, 12:37 AM

This board when I suggested the Tigers were getting too big for their britches. They called me ignorant and a coot...Hmmm..... How a bout now that BV is seeing the same issues I was seeing? Stay humble and hungry! Go Tigers!

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That: Is a man keeping it 100

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Nov 18, 2015, 12:47 AM

As the kids say. That's 100% the way I've seen it the last 2-1/4 weeks. The 1/4 against FSU. Coach V earned ever more respect from me! Thank God the offense didn't drink the "we're #1" kool aid! I have complete faith V will fix it!

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Rowdy Rhonda Rousey couldn't be beat, either

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Nov 18, 2015, 10:52 AM

She destroyed opponents. Her previous three fights lasted a total of 48 seconds or something insane like that. Until she was KO'd last week.

Mike Tyson destroyed opponents wining several fights in a row in 30 seconds or so. Then came Buster Douglas.

Don't let past performance make you think you can never lose or to overlook an opponent. Give 100% all the time and don't let up until the opponent is down for the count. Then start planning the destruction of the next opponent.

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