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My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 9:01 PM
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The only thing that worries me about OU is how their QB can extend plays. I feel this has been our biggest weakness on defense this year. We like to blitz and we tend to lunge at the QB vs breakdown and wrap him up. If we are going to win this game Lawson and Dodd are going to have be able keep pressure on Mayfield from the edges and close the pocket around him while Goodson and Boulware provide pressure up the middle. I have actually watched quite a few OU games this year... Mayfield is a winner! He is NOT as good as DW, but he IS dangerous especially if he is able to extend the play.
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From his stats, I believe I read that Baker Mayfield was
Dec 6, 2015, 9:08 PM
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sacked over 30 times during the season, which is a little surprising given his running ability.
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Re: From his stats, I believe I read that Baker Mayfield was
Dec 6, 2015, 10:00 PM
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> sacked over 30 times during the season, which is a
> little surprising given his running ability.
Truth about the oline is that they are not very good. THey are very talented just very inexperienced so a lot of plays get busted and Mayfield is forced to improvise. But it so happens that is where he thrives most which is really the only reason why it hasnt hurt them much.
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The same can be said of our O-line
Dec 6, 2015, 11:02 PM
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They were also very inexperienced entering the year. I have a feeling this will be a hyper aggressive quarterback-based slugfest.
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A few games I saw parts of he would not avoid
Dec 6, 2015, 10:57 PM
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the threat always and would try to throw to whatever target he could find. I only saw a couple of sacks. But a bunch of times he just planted an threw right as the defender was making contact and planted him 2 feet down.
Kid has guts. May not always make the best decision. But he would keep playing with his left arm hanging by a strand it seems like.
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 9:08 PM
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Agree, have missed a ton of free shots on QB's... rest is much needed.
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 9:16 PM
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I would not call him a running QB. He actually looks downfield to throw before he decides to run with it. I would say he is similar to a Russell Wilson style... Which is why if our intial pressure does not get to him our DBs need to stay locked in, because once he is out if the pocket he is looking to throw it, not run it
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 10:01 PM
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> I would not call him a running QB. He actually
> looks downfield to throw before he decides to run
> n with it. I would say he is similar to a Russell
> Wilson style... Which is why if our intial pressure
> does not get to him our DBs need to stay locked in,
> because once he is out if the pocket he is looking to
> throw it, not run it
I agree with that assessent. He really isnt known for being a runner. He just happens to be really athletic and can wiggle around people pretty well. It's fun to watch and yes he will run around for 5 seconds and then throw it 30 yards to an open guy.
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OU plays against Big12 defenses... nuff said
Dec 6, 2015, 9:19 PM
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this is the same story-line as the UNCheat game. Hot team with dynamic offense that we wont be able to stop and we will turn the ball over, blah, blah blah.
Same ending!
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Re: OU plays against Big12 defenses... nuff said
Dec 6, 2015, 9:30 PM
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Where did I say that we can't stop this offense or we will turn the ball over? Have you actually watched OU play? The OU offense is quite different from UNC. Our D was able to stop them last year... However, Mayfield was not their QB and we tackled better. My point to this tread is that if our guys tackle vs lunge we can contain him... If we continue to have poor tackling this guy is capable ( more capabl than Williams) to extend the play for big gains.
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Easy tiger- Just putting a positive spin onthe big picture
Dec 6, 2015, 9:39 PM
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I didnt say you said anything... I have watched OU play. Im not sure if they are "quite" different. BM isnt the short yardage threat that MW was and BM has more accuracy with less talent at WR.
Your point is fine. Its still the same story-line we heard for the UNC game.
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 9:24 PM
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We held our own against ND & UNC, both of which had QBs that are praised for their abilities to extend plays.
I think we play lights out after 3 weeks of rest, ice baths & therapy.
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 10:09 PM
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> We held our own against ND & UNC, both of which had
> QBs that are praised for their abilities to extend
> plays.
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> I think we play lights out after 3 weeks of rest, ice
> baths & therapy.
Yeah ,well UNC qb is #33 in yards, and ND qb is #45 while Mayfield is #19. And he has the 2nd highest yard per attempt of active qbs. Kind of a different animal and that's not even considering the running backs. It'll be a challenge for both defenses, probably the biggest of the year for each. I know OU is playing their best football and we'll both have to bring our A games
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The best QB our D will face all year is the guy
Dec 6, 2015, 10:54 PM
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they go against in practice!
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 10:34 PM
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In the pouring rain ND was able to grind out 426 yds of offense. Clemson was able to beat ND because of 4 uncharacteristic turnovers, yes you did win but I didn't see it as handling them. This game will be won or lost in the secondary, both teams have strong defensive line rotations and excellent linebacker play. I do like Mayfield's decision making with only 5 ints this year, Watson I was shocked to see has thrown 11. In the two games I saw in person this year he seems to lock into his primary, especially on the long balls. Mayfield is good at surveying the field but does find Shepard to be a crutch. It will be interesting to see how Clemson handles Shepard. I wonder if some of the passes to the Clemson TE foreshadows some new play calling for the CFP.
I will ask though, with Gallman why did Clemson wait so long run the ball against UNC. Their run defense is in the 100s. Also the two of the UNC scoring drives required less than 2:00mins, that is B12ish. I chalked it up to prevent defense.
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Watson is one of the best at NOT locking in on his primary
Dec 6, 2015, 11:14 PM
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receiver. One of his best attributes is seeing the entire field.
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Re: Watson is one of the best at NOT locking in on his primary
Dec 6, 2015, 11:38 PM
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I was at two games this year, a laugher App State and Boston College. Sitting in the nose bleed seats for BC the two ints he threw were called as they left his hand and there was one or two more that should have picked in the BC DB had put his head on a swivel. When he is one he throws a great long ball but I projects where the ball is going on those throws.
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 11:32 PM
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I'm not sure why your curious how we will stop Shepard. Do you remember that #2 W had at CB last year??? Yeah we still got him. Mac island shut him absolutely down and you will probably see an encore.
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 11:42 PM
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> I'm not sure why your curious how we will stop
> Shepard. Do you remember that #2 W had at CB last
> year??? Yeah we still got him. Mac island shut him
> absolutely down and you will probably see an encore.
Last year OU ran the Heuple Pistol and the route trees and locations where predictable. This year the run LR Air Raid that puts Shepard in a number of different match ups. Your #2 is very good but as I remember he is field side CB. Also last year TK9 was the QB he threw 3 ints in that game and has as many ints as tds. This year BM has thrown 5 ints all season.
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 10:45 PM
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What about the dude on defense he had like 3 or 4 interceptions against tcu in the first half I can't remember his name or number and that was the only ou game I have watched this year besides the Texas game but I remember them talking about how good he is
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Yes. That was my concern with Williams too.
Dec 6, 2015, 10:57 PM
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I thought the D did a great job keeping him contained. OKs qb is a significant upgrade over Williams, and OK will be a tough game.
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Re: My main concern about OU
Dec 6, 2015, 11:26 PM
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This will be our bend not break game IF OK is successful getting first downs. Just make them settle for 3 over and over and get our O the ball.
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I don't know if anyone has noticed but...
Dec 7, 2015, 12:33 AM
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DW does go all 'chicken with his head cut off,' every time a play breaks down. When the receivers are covered he break toward the part of the field that's most open. The majority of runs DW makes are runs he know he's probably going to make before the snap.
Mayfield is good when it comes to running around in the backfield like a chicken with it's head cut off because he's slow to decide what is best to do.
OU has one advantage, as I see things. They know how to lose.
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