|
Replies: 20
| visibility 1
|
110%er [6610]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5502
Joined: 9/28/09
|
Most Of the ACC Schools are Happy with the GOR
2
Mar 3, 2023, 6:52 AM
|
|
FSU's AD, Michael Alford said FSU and Clemson is currently responsible for 51% of the viewership in the ACC. He said FSU is responsible for 15% of the Media agreement and only gets 7% of the money distribution and Clemson currently is responsible for 24% of the media agreement. He didn't say what their distribution percentage is but I would guess it's similar to FSU.
That means most of the ACC schools are getting more money from the media distribution than they are earning.
Alford also said that these media negotiations usually focus 80% on football and 20% on on basketball so don't think ACC basketball is some type of golden goose because football is where the money is and will always be.
Alford also said that there will be some conferences that will be able to renegotiate their TV rights a few times compared to the ACC being locked in until 2036.
With all of that said, what incentive is it for the bottom feeders of the ACC that makes more money than Clemson and FSU to want to renegotiate? Nothing. They know that Clemson and FSU will leave for the SEC or Big 10 the minute they get an invite and can get out of the GOR deal. They have every reason to milk the GOR money for as long as they can.
The ACC needs to be dissolved and this battle over the GOR will be fought in the courts.
|
|
|
|
 |
Freshman [-99]
TigerPulse: 38%
Posts: 1731
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Re: Most Of the ACC Schools are Happy with the GOR
1
Mar 3, 2023, 6:56 AM
|
|
This conference has us and the Noles by the balls. Shouldn’t have signed the GOR. Whoever did that screwed the football program. No way out. Just accept it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1105]
TigerPulse: 83%
Posts: 1354
Joined: 2/20/11
|
GOR is just a negotiation point, in a couple years the GOR buyout
Mar 3, 2023, 7:20 AM
|
|
is manageable and that’s the end of the ACC. I’m sure all ACC schools are actually working behind the scenes trying to get a spot in their next conference, if not they’re risking being stuck playing ECU and UNC-Charlotte in the ACC 2.0 for the next 30 years.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mascot [19]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 26
Joined: 12/4/21
|
Re: GOR is just a negotiation point, in a couple years the GOR buyout
1
Mar 3, 2023, 7:41 AM
|
|
The problem is we should have never signed the gor in the first place, and Swofford sold this conference out to espn to get a conference network, that is a second-rate one, anyway. It will be very difficult to get out of this conference unless two-thirds of the members agree to leave and dissolve the conference, which will never happen with the nc schools. We are n a very difficult position, and with the sec and big getting more and more money, we are losing the arms race, with money, bad and quickly.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3625]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3474
Joined: 12/1/19
|
Re: GOR is just a negotiation point, in a couple years the GOR buyout
Mar 3, 2023, 8:19 AM
|
|
Maybe that is the key - getting 2/3’s to vote to leave in hopes of negotiating a better contract. While some, if not many, are receiving money for nothing, on our and FSU’s back .. even “mo money” may get the others to opt out. Heck, it would benefit both Clemson and FSU if they’d offer $5 million to each school for their opt out vote. This is the only way for a redo of short sided wrongs of Swofford and our teams administrators.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64589]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88994
Joined: 3/27/01
|
Clemson and FSU do not have to pay the other schools...
Mar 3, 2023, 9:03 AM
|
|
because the league would implode as a football conference without those two teams and everyone knows it.
Does ANYONE really think Virginia Tech, North Carolina, NC State or Miami can sustain the league as a football conference?
The best path forward for Clemson is to simply buy its way out of the ACC. Before that can happen, Clemson needs a new place to call home, and right now, that doesn't exist.
If the GOR is as "iron clad" and some have suggested, start working on raising the money to buy your way out. It's entirely possible that is already happening.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3462]
TigerPulse: 78%
Posts: 5156
Joined: 9/12/10
|
I agree, but where would Clemson go?
Mar 3, 2023, 5:13 PM
|
|
All the media I've seen outside the area says the SEC would not be interested in Clemson because the brand is weak and they already have South Carolina.
The Big Ten doesn't want Clemson because because they are pretty strick about only having AAU members, which Clemson isn't.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Letterman [283]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 825
Joined: 2/27/08
|
Re: Clemson and FSU do not have to pay the other schools...
Mar 3, 2023, 6:40 PM
[ in reply to Clemson and FSU do not have to pay the other schools... ] |
|
If Clemson and FSU are the lions share of eyeballs watching the ACC, then that's sad. Halfway understandable in football. Even though the Noles have slipped.
And the other schools are in areas where the fan base is not quite as intrenched.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [76942]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 28601
Joined: 12/1/18
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8537]
TigerPulse: 49%
Posts: 11511
Joined: 9/9/06
|
Re: Most Of the ACC Schools are Happy with the GOR
1
1
Mar 3, 2023, 8:18 AM
|
|
Bottom line is a conference will not distribute money on anything but an equal basis. What could happen is a bigger per team bowl expense share per team which would cover the loss that I am sure we have. A conference is a family and you don't give little Polly twice as much for Christmas as you give little Johnny.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [76942]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 28601
Joined: 12/1/18
|
Are you as physically handicapped as mentally?***
2
Mar 3, 2023, 8:19 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [828]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 3982
Joined: 4/14/09
|
Re: Most Of the ACC Schools are Happy with the GOR
Mar 3, 2023, 8:25 AM
[ in reply to Re: Most Of the ACC Schools are Happy with the GOR ] |
|
What will more likely happen is that, with playoff expansion and the financial windfall that will come to all of the conferences, the ACC will assign more money to the teams that make the playoffs. In that way, none of the schools who don't make the playoffs will lose anything (because the playoff money will so dramatically increase) but more of it can go to the schools that earn it.
(And after a improvement in 2021, FSU will regress to the mean, end up 8-5, and their AD will ####.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16935]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4597
Joined: 1/31/16
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16058]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 24596
Joined: 5/14/02
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64589]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88994
Joined: 3/27/01
|
That's not a sustainable path forward for the ACC...
Mar 3, 2023, 11:15 AM
[ in reply to Re: Most Of the ACC Schools are Happy with the GOR ] |
|
The conference can't continue to allow a program that generates nearly 25% of the leagues revenue to only receive a 7% return.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16058]
TigerPulse: 97%
Posts: 24596
Joined: 5/14/02
|
Where did he say Clemson is responsible for %24 of the media
Mar 3, 2023, 10:57 AM
|
|
agreement?
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6219]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8860
Joined: 5/30/01
|
Re: Where did he say Clemson is responsible for %24 of the media
Mar 3, 2023, 12:14 PM
|
|
He never said that. He attached a percentage to Clemson, but it wasn't 24%. I believe it was like 7%. Remember, the last deal was signed years ago, before we had our run in football.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6610]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5502
Joined: 9/28/09
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [19944]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 11203
Joined: 9/23/07
|
He said "us and Clemson account for over 24%"***
Mar 3, 2023, 6:55 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Letterman [278]
TigerPulse: 98%
Posts: 319
Joined: 6/17/16
|
Re: Most Of the ACC Schools are Happy with the GOR
Mar 3, 2023, 12:00 PM
|
|
I dont think the ACC, as we know it, is around if the GOR isnt in effect. I remember Mike Krzyzewski saying the schools needed to make sure everyone is still committed to the ACC when Maryland announced they were leaving. It seemed like it shook the ACC to its core. I think other schools would have eventually left if the original GOR isnt in effect. The extension they signed to get the ACC network was questionable, but it was a judgement call. I think the ACC leaders thought it was imperative they get a network. ESPeNis said they will only get the ACC network if the GOR is extended to 2036. I can understand both sides agreeing to this. From ACC perspective it could have been extend GOR for the ACC network or watch other conferences pick off their schools. I dont think anyone could have forseen the rise in conference tv contracts. The B1G has been smart in the last 2 contracts being for 6 or 7 years. It may catch up to them eventually.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64589]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88994
Joined: 3/27/01
|
As usual...
Mar 3, 2023, 12:37 PM
|
|
the ACC was being reactive as opposed to being forward thinking and proactive. Swofford was a lot of things, mostly bad, but a visionary was not one of them.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 20
| visibility 1
|
|
|
50
