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This is where we so need Trump
May 12, 2021, 1:27 PM
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He would tell us there's plenty of gas. Nothing to worry about. It was democrats and Hillary who hacked the pipeline anyway. Israel and the Palestinians has a little shuffle, but our masterful diplomacy has averted a war. Covid is fakenews created by crooked Hillary and democrats to sink my reelection that they ended up having to steal. Inflation? Hey, it's a sign of a growing economy. America is BACK! MAGA......
Something along those lines. And half of America would be like ##### yeah!!!!
You gotta admit, he was a great diversion, if nothing else. So boring without him. Like going from WWE/UFC fights to golf/spelling bee's on ESPN.
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Re: This is where we so need Trump
May 12, 2021, 1:34 PM
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Re: This is where we so need Trump
May 12, 2021, 10:25 PM
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I'm pretty sure Covid was a big deal under Trump. You disagree?
How is Biden responsible for the pipeline and the Middle East?
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He was entertaining.
May 12, 2021, 5:10 PM
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I mean will we ever have a President again who makes fun of Rosie ODonald?
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It's ok, you got your lib in
May 12, 2021, 6:59 PM
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I feel so much better our economy is going to #### this quickly.
At least Rosie is safe tho. And.your feelings
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Re: Meanwhile, Biden hits 63% approval rating in new AP Poll.
May 12, 2021, 1:33 PM
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Re: Meanwhile, Biden hits 63% approval rating in new AP Poll.
May 12, 2021, 1:41 PM
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And, of course the propaganda machine.
No doubt if the words were reversed in the MSM and their echo chambers Catahoula® stubborn_tiger® Chuckston T-Man would be 10x more right than we are...the message is irrelevant. If you immerse yourself into it, which is easy to do given that propaganda has displaced semi-neutral "news," you will believe anything.
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Hey numnutts, you're the one posting random
May 12, 2021, 1:49 PM
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news stories all over the place.
If ANYONE is being manipulated by propoganda, it's you.
If you ACTUALLY had a PhD, you'd be smart enough to understand that.
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Well he WAS lucky enough to buy the right Cracker Jacks box.***
May 13, 2021, 10:17 AM
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1 in 5 Republicans and over 6 in 10 Independents approve
May 12, 2021, 1:46 PM
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of Biden's job performance. The Democrats are united at 92%.
Not in my wildest dreams did I expect Sleepy Joe to win the hearts and minds of the American People so handily and so thoroughly.
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I wonder how many can actually articulate why they approve
May 12, 2021, 1:59 PM
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of his job performance. Maybe they like inflation, global conflict, and hilariously bad energy policy?
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Most are probably comparing him to the last guy in the White
May 12, 2021, 2:20 PM
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House.
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I didn't figure they could. Makes sense why dems remain
May 12, 2021, 2:42 PM
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obsessed with Trump, might have to look at the policy/governing short comings of their own party otherwise.
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Wonder why the GOP remains obsessed with Loser Trump?
May 12, 2021, 3:00 PM
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Didn't even have a platform. Just fealty to Trump. Cost them the White House, House and Senate. It's gotten so bad, they removed a Republican who voted with Trump 92% of the time from the #3 leadership position in Congress. Maximum TDS.
But, don't take my word for it.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1390482019738521600
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OK, why can't you look at the Democrat party with that same
May 12, 2021, 3:08 PM
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level of critique? Why can't any of you seem to?
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Can you articulate why you approve of Biden's performance
May 12, 2021, 3:26 PM
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without reverting back to talking about Trump?
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Re: Can you articulate why you approve of Biden's performance
May 12, 2021, 3:50 PM
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First 100 days into the job:
Likes: Covid Relief Bill, Pandemic response, Cabinet choices, Emphasis back on fighting Climate Change, strengthen affordable care health exchanges, is boring (to name a few things)
Dislikes: Not a big fan of pulling troops out of Afghanistan which may put me in the minority, Immigration is a mixed bag.
Can you articulate a response to Chuck's post and why the GOP has such fealty to Trump?
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So you do like inflation and hilariously bad energy policy
May 12, 2021, 4:39 PM
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I have yet to discern what exactly he has done to turn around the pandemic response, other than the fact he's the beneficiary of the vaccine roll out. Frankly, this entire administration seems to be in over their heads, but I don't think Biden is really making any sort of real decisions anyway.
Most of Trump's actual policies were always pretty popular with republicans and conservatives, it was the tweeting and personality that everyone hated. And he didn't handle covid very well. I also think much of the republican base are tired of seeing their elected officials kowtow to democrats and their decent into lunacy at every turn, and that's exactly what supporting impeachment over Jan 6th was about. Those who did might find they will pay for it.
I know this is where you tell me that Jan 6th was, in fact, the worst event since the civil war, but that's a pretty hard sell for many people after 4+ years of rhetoric casting doubt on the 2016 election, not to mention the year of riots in which democrats like our current VP promoted bail funds for rioters, while democrat activist DA's refused to prosecute them. Amazingly, no talk of insurrection throughout all of that!
So I guess in a sense, it's less about fealty to Trump, and more about looking for people who won't be swayed by the propaganda and give in to the increasingly radical agenda being put out by democrats.
And now you guys have successfully pivoted the thread away from critiquing Biden to talking about Trump.
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'No' and 'no' to your subject line questions...
May 12, 2021, 5:30 PM
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The vaccine rollout didn't just spontaneously occur in some vacuum. That's why he is getting credit for it, I think. Not sure why you think they're in over their head or why Biden isn't making decisions (although I have some guesses as to where you got those opinions from).
As for the Trump fealty answer you gave: I understand why you think all that, but it doesn't answer why they can't quit Trump. Surely there are others in the party that can stand up to the democrats without the high negatives that Trump carries with him? What is it about Trump that is unique compared to the rest in the Republican Party?
And there hasn't been a pivot as much as a comparison of the two which seems reasonable considering we are just past Biden's first 100 days in office and Trump still commands so much of the Republican Party's attention? Maybe your sensitivity to his inclusion in the comparison gives us certain tacit truths about Trump?
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I got those opinions from watching him, and his
May 13, 2021, 9:52 AM
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administrations response, or lack there of, to various crisis like immigration and more recently this supposed Russian hack.
That's always been the most frustrating thing about republicans, why can't they stand up on their own? I suspect it's because they're operating under 2005-like uniparty protocol, and still think that trending towards this woke, big govt. agenda is a winning strategy for them. Their constitutes anger has been growing for decades, and many just now seem to be realizing it. If someone other than Trump would promote Trump-like, America first policies, you'd see the Trump voters flock to that person. Ron Desantis seems to be attempting to fill those shoes, but time will tell.
It's hard to get a fair comparison of the two when one gets a pass on everything, while the other has every move scrutinized to the Nth degree.
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Curious, through what services are you watching him?
May 13, 2021, 4:40 PM
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There's very little that I'd say this Republican Party is anything like the 2005 Republican party. I had my disagreements with that version of the party's ideology, but at least I thought they were pro-democracy and they thought their ideology would help the country. The Republican Party of today seems uninterested in any of that.
They have no stated platform other than "Trump" which really is a platform of grift, power accruement and hypocrisy. Lindsey Graham and Stefanik are great examples of this change in the Republican Party. Neither stand for anything and have changed their positions to be whatever gives them the most power within the party (Stefanik, who is likely to replace Cheney, voted less with Trump than Cheney but because she backs Trump's lies about the election she gets the position over Cheney).
This would be hilarious if we weren't stuck with them in a two-party system and so many of the ones they are drifting are okay with being gifted (i.e. Republican "base").
I have my problems with where the dems are possibly headed, but it's nowhere near the worry I have for where the Republicans are NOW.
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Youtube. What services are you watching republicans
May 14, 2021, 9:50 AM
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on that give you the impression they are no longer pro-democracy, or that their ideology is dangerous to the country? I think I can guess.
Everywhere under majority democrat rule seems to be either in shambles, or well on the way. People are fleeing those places at record paces. It seems demonstrably true that their policies are bad, and they're incapable of governing. Yet many of you ignore this while knit picking republicans. Why?
I have my gripes with republicans, but generally speaking, their policies seem to be the least destructive. This idea that they're heading toward some sort of horrible ideology seems totally manufactured to me when looking at results instead of rhetoric.
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Any specific channels on youtube you're watching?
May 14, 2021, 5:35 PM
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I get my national news from NY Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal, and some conservative/left-leaning twitter political handles. I've mentioned those sources before, so no secret.
As for your opinions on democrat-led places versus republicans I have a theory of why you believe that, but first can you provide articles or information to back up your claim? But even without providing that evidence, on a "common sense" or "intuitive" approach to that question, do you really believe it's as simple and black/white as "democrat led places are worse than republican?" How deep into the issues have you looked? Have you done your own research or simply watched your youtube channels and come to the same conclusion as they have? Have you looked into what happened in Kansas by chance? Have you looked into who gets most of the Government handouts? I don't think the issue is as black/white as you may think or been led to believe.
So when you ask "Why" have democrats ignored this, it's not ignoring it's probably disagreeing with the premise.
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All sorts of channels, what difference does it make if I'm
May 17, 2021, 10:16 AM
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watching the full length clips? Biden clearly has dementia, you can continue to pretend he doesn't for a little bit longer but it's becoming harder and harder to deny. I've noticed a lot of you guys have started doing this though, honing in on the source instead of arguing the content.
lol, what is your theory? There's a plethora of evidence, New York and California just lost house seats, real estate in my area is getting gobbled up by folks leaving those areas, they and their real estate agents will tell you the same thing. People are fleeing higher crime/higher tax areas, it's pretty simple. Those areas they're leaving aren't exactly bastions of conservatism, so it appears that democrat/progressive policy is to blame. I travel the southeast for work, and work with people from all across the country. It's the same story everywhere. I don't need youtube videos to discern that reality. People I've worked with for 10 years who have lived in places like Chicago their entire lives are doing everything they can to get out. Same thing with Detroit, if they aren't actively trying to move, they've got a timeline for when it will happen.
I see you keep hinting that I've been "led to believe" these things, which I find funny considering some of the blatant propaganda your trusted news services put out that you no doubt consume without question. I don't require multi year studies and a half dozen WAPO articles to tell me that the sky is blue, but those of you who do shouldn't be shocked when you find that things aren't how you've been led to believe. This completely different world both sides live in is why, frankly, I don't see how there will ever be any sort of reconciliation between progressives and conservatives.
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Can't argue against sources not offered.
May 17, 2021, 4:26 PM
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so, no, that's not what is happening here. Not sure what content you've offered that could be argued against? You say Biden has dementia? Okay, I disagree (or at least I don't know if he does). Until there's evidence or substance to back up the claim, there's not much to argue against.
I think the reason people are leaving is in large part because of the costs of living and the fact that technology allows them to work remotely now. I have a few friends who are leaving from LA due to having kids and they are scared of earthquakes/forest fires endangering their families. I'm not doubting people are moving away from densely populated areas, but I think the reasons are varied and I haven't seen any evidence to point to it's a failure in democratic leadership. Although that's not to say it's not true, just I haven't seen evidence proving that case (I'm also going to point out you did not answer my questions about Kansas/federal aid).
We do live in different worlds if you think Science and places like NYT, WaPO, and The Wall Street Journal are propaganda. All I'd ask is that you inquire about why you believe that. Are certain sites/sources telling you that's the case or have you done your own evaluation of those sources and found them to be problematic?
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At the core of this debate the point is...
May 13, 2021, 4:57 PM
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Liz Cheney voted for Trump's policy more than the woman who is replacing her. So the republicans are getting rid of someone who votes with Trump almost every time because she said bad things about Trump. And they are replacing her with someone who voted with Trump less, but said nice things about him.
It's like the entire party has become so engrained with Trump that the party itself has his thin-skinned ##### habit of being more concerned of what you think of him personally than professionally. I'm not sure a democrat couldn't take Liz Cheney's job if the democrat spent about 6 months praising Trump and talking about how smart he is.
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Thin-skinned and obsessed with "canceling" others...
May 13, 2021, 5:26 PM
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It's their inability to see their own hypocrisy in criticizing the dems for having those attributes that is so confounding. It's not that those charges aren't somewhat true for the dems, it's that the pubs have some weird inability to see how true it is for their own party. And to have someone like Trump, who embodies everything they claim Dems are lead your party and give him complete fealty? It doesn't make sense.
Here's my theory on how to make it make sense (that I sort of came up with right now so it may be nonsense, lol): The pub leadership in Congress are smart and most are well-educated. They know exactly what they are doing and know it's nonsense. But, because the world is mostly a "safe" place right now, they see an opportunity with Trump and his large base of low EQ base to grift. It's why I somewhat feel sorry for Trump supporters because they are being used by the ones they're championing for and don't realize it. Or maybe they do realize it and don't care because it makes them feel good about "owning the libs" or whatever. In that part, I don't really understand the psychology.
And there's some of this that's true or could be true for the Dems and the Federal beauractric system as a whole, but I think with a tent as large as the Dems, it's harder to have such a homogenized grift. You might have smaller grifts or grifts around an issue, but not something that absorbs the entire party as much as Trump has absorbed the Republican Party.
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Everything you said can be equally attributed to democrats
May 14, 2021, 9:44 AM
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They homogenize the grift with wokeness. The biggest difference I see, is democrats like yourself seem to refuse to critique anything democrats do, while most republicans seem aware of the shortcomings of the party.
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Reread what I wrote, I said it applies to the dems too
May 14, 2021, 5:42 PM
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but that it's harder to pull off on the whole of the party because of how large it is with as many different ideologies going on (which is also why conservatives are better on messaging and unity in elections).
Any shortcomings Republicans point out these days within their own party are against those going against Trump and the grift (Romney/Cheney) and not critiques of their platform (because, officially, they have none). But maybe you have examples that disprove that? I'm willing to admit my bias and change my opinion on that issue if I'm shown to be wrong.
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dangerous place to be in considering we are a 2 party system***
May 12, 2021, 3:47 PM
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Yep. They are becoming the Anti-Democracy Party.***
May 12, 2021, 4:04 PM
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It's the 62% of Independents and almost 1 in 4 Republicans
May 12, 2021, 1:53 PM
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who are loving them some Sleepy Joe that should have you worried.
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Bidinflation is going great...***
May 12, 2021, 1:47 PM
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If you're losing under Biden, you're a loser who is destined
May 12, 2021, 1:48 PM
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to lose.
401k never been higher. Gas tank is full. Life is good!!!!!
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and snowflakes are whining.
May 12, 2021, 1:49 PM
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Life is good!
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Life is what you make of it.
May 12, 2021, 2:05 PM
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Not what Joe Biden or Donald Trump makes of it.
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This is where you need to shift your investments from
May 12, 2021, 5:26 PM
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republican companies to democrat companies.
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Now you're talking the TRUE basis of party affiliations...
May 13, 2021, 10:28 AM
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Take a look at Biden's daily White House staff... Everything's on cruise control...
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Memo to President Biden: Life moves pretty fast
May 12, 2021, 2:46 PM
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if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Chicka chick-ahhh.
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Biden
May 12, 2021, 6:02 PM
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He's doing a fine job. Don Lemon said so.
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