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Oculus Spirit [79930]
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Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 9:53 AM
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against these easier opponents, but after reading all of the articles about Goodwin having a photographic memory and being able to recognize coverages and tendencies pre-snap last season, I admit that I was expecting to see more from him and our defense so far.
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 10:01 AM
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I agree with you. We keep hearing the other team did something we were not expecting. That is what a good coach does. Everyone knows we will not throw in the middle of the field. Why put a defender there? What good is a good memory if you can't use it.
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No one has said that this year***
Sep 19, 2022, 11:48 AM
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 10:02 AM
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I'm old and my memory is faulty but aren't the complaints about vanilla play calling, slow starts and not putting patsies away something we heard in 2016 and every season since?
If that's so, and I think it is, I think I'm gonna relax a little and let it play out. (Note: that doesn't mean that I won't absolutely die every single time a pass is off target or dropped, a drive stalls or we give up an easy pass across the middle for a long gain... sigh.)
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 10:13 AM
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In 2016, the complaint was that players who had proven to be productive the previous year were not performing up to their potential.
The current players have not yet proven to be productive. That leaves open the question of whether the current players are underperforming, or if this is just the best they can do.
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In fairness, we had 6 defensive starters out on Saturday...
Sep 19, 2022, 10:26 AM
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and, as is usually the case, there is a drop-off, at least from an experience standpoint, from the first team to the back-ups.
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But I thought we were stacked/loaded on defense.
Sep 19, 2022, 10:47 AM
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We have backups who are NFL caliber talents, right?
Plus, we haven't exactly played top teams this year.
Shouldn't our backups be able to outperform starters for the likes of Furman and Louisiana Tech?
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Re: But I thought we were stacked/loaded on defense.
Sep 19, 2022, 10:57 AM
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We do on the defensive line. Why do you constantly cherry pick information? Disingenuous at best. We played multiple freshmen at the same in the game Saturday. They will be better for it as will the team as the season progresses.
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Because he/she is king/queen of the trolls***
Sep 19, 2022, 11:49 AM
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All-In [43989]
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I don't appreciate being called a troll.
Sep 19, 2022, 12:24 PM
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I"m a Clemson alumnus. I support Clemson athletics. I've been on TigerNet for almost 20 years. I pay to support the site. I don't have any other usernames I post under.
Don't call me a troll just because my opinion doesn't align with yours at times.
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Legend [19567]
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Then stop trolling***
Sep 19, 2022, 1:02 PM
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I'm not cherry picking anything.
Sep 19, 2022, 12:21 PM
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We recruit nationally, and are usually in the top 5-10 in recruiting rankings. The players we have at each level of our defense is far superior in talent to the players on the other three teams we have played this year.
Of course younger players will make mistakes, and we can live with that in order to develop depth. But surely you can see that even our starters and key reserves haven't exactly been impressive so far this year.
The fact that you and others use blanket statements and generalizations to excuse our play so far is the epitome of cherry-picking. Last time I checked, we didn't start a team full of true freshmen or inexperienced backups.
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We’ll see if he can coach “the unexpected”…
Sep 19, 2022, 12:13 PM
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…this week with WF’s “mesh” offense.
Last year BV handled the “mesh” with effectively the same defense that Goodwin has, less Bresee, but with a “better” Mukuba (hoping he is 100% by Saturday).
If the defense gets their a55 handed to them in Winston this Saturday, “Weslichick” will have a lot of explaining to do.
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 10:08 AM
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Better opponent this and a better performance or at least it better be. The exhibition season is over. Buckle up.
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 10:26 AM
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Yes, this. If we are still complaining about vanilla approaches after Saturday, then we nay have to face it that the team can't handle a more in depth scheme.
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The problem is, vanilla = predictable.***
Sep 19, 2022, 10:20 AM
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All-In [43989]
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I'm underwhelmed as well.
Sep 19, 2022, 10:45 AM
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Be ready for the following excuses here:
-We have had some players injured
-Emotional couple of weeks with Ella Bresee situation
-Wes is new and learning his way around as a defensive coordinator
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Oculus Spirit [78712]
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First time in a long time . . .
Sep 19, 2022, 10:52 AM
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but yes . . . I TD’d this insensitive comment . . .
While it may be true . . . some things are better left unsaid . . . a “jerk-ish” comment got what it earned.
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Re: First time in a long time . . .
Sep 19, 2022, 10:58 AM
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It's what he does. One of the biggest trolls on the board.
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Re: First time in a long time . . .
Sep 19, 2022, 11:54 AM
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You missed the race baiting he engaged in yesterday that was again quarantined.
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 10:49 AM
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SEASON STARTS SATURDAY. PRESEASON IS OVER. THE END.
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 10:50 AM
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I agree. My expectations of him were pretty high. I’ve been disappointed
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110%er [6095]
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lot of distractions and injuries.***
Sep 19, 2022, 11:46 AM
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 12:34 PM
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I believe we are and I said that last week.
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 12:45 PM
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Dabo does it every year. When are the whiners and trolls gonna learn.
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Re: Maybe we are purposefully keeping things vanilla
Sep 19, 2022, 12:39 PM
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I think you may be on to something. Been telling a friend of mine for years that dabo is notorious for shortening up the playbook early in the season.
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