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All-In [27256]
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Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:03 PM
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The kid sacrifices and grinds. He works his butt off. He bleeds, sweats, and gives his all. It’s not his fault the coaches keep him in. He plays to the best of his abilities. Unfortunately that’s not enough to keep this team at the top of the mountain. The decision to play him anyways is not his fault.
So don’t bash this kid. Don’t act like he’s some piece trash loser. He’s a Clemson man.
It’s the coaches responsibility to put the best one on the field and they, THE COACHES, have failed at that.
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Varsity [204]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:05 PM
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Agree, support the players.
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Commissioner [923]
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Does he ? Does he lead this team like a QB should ? Does he put in the extra time with
Nov 26, 2022, 7:06 PM
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The WR like TLaw / DW did after hours ????
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Orange Blooded [2842]
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Re: Does he ? Does he lead this team like a QB should ? Does he put in the extra time with
Nov 27, 2022, 10:17 AM
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Does he not? Do you have the recorded hours that each one put in with their respective WR corps outside of practice? DJ has been terrible at QB, but why pose an argument that you nor the other side could substantiate their claims? I forgot some of you like to argue in whimsical theories that can’t be proven nor disproven making your argument valid?
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Scout Team [188]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:06 PM
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I agree %100. DJ is doing everything he can. Everything else is on the coaching staff.
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Orange Blooded [4781]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:09 PM
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Funny and a little off center.
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Orange Blooded [3182]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:19 AM
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If he were doing everything to help his team then he would step back and hand it over to one of the other 5 stars.
His body language says a lot and he just don’t won’t to be there. Or so it seems!
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Legend [16058]
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I would ask that you step aside and quit your job…
Nov 27, 2022, 2:59 PM
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To make room for someone better.
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Letterman [261]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:06 PM
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And he is not the solution. Appreciate he tries, but we have seen his ceiling and it’s not very high.
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All-TigerNet [13835]
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May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:06 PM
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But, horrid qb. He should not be on the field, period. Coaches are definitely at fault.
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Rock Defender [62]
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:12 PM
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There could be a place for him on the field somewhere. He could be Patrick Sapp 2.0
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110%er [5381]
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:16 PM
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I agree with you. I have wanted DJ to be successful so much because he is a class act. I would love too see him come back in a position that he can excel.
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Oculus Spirit [78578]
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He does have . . .
Nov 27, 2022, 2:57 PM
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a 95mph fastball and use to hit the seamed ball well . . . Coach B would give him a look.
Just saying . . . there are options . . . always . . . especially for good people.
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:33 PM
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Not back up punter. He is better than our starting punter now. Our punter was overshadowed by DJ and the Coots punter made ours look like pee-wee football.
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:56 PM
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but he doesn't like to get hit.
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Rock Defender [62]
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:12 PM
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There could be a place for him on the field somewhere. He could be Patrick Sapp 2.0
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:12 PM
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There could be a place for him on the field somewhere. He could be Patrick Sapp 2.0
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:12 PM
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There could be a place for him on the field somewhere. He could be Patrick Sapp 2.0
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Rock Defender [62]
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:13 PM
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There could be a place for him on the field somewhere. He could be Patrick Sapp 2.0
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Re: May be a great guy.
Nov 27, 2022, 3:03 PM
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Yep! No comment on his character or work ethic to acknowledge that he isn't very good.
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Commissioner [963]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:07 PM
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So do all the other players and they deserve a chance as well.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:09 PM
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Not mad at D.J. at all anymore....just the dumbaA$$es who kept running him back out..definition of insanity
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:09 PM
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If I permit it, I PROMOTE it. Just REFUSE to be a part of this trash anymore. When he’s gone, I’ll come home……until then, well, heck, I’ll watch old movies or something.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:11 PM
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you were never a part of this chicken boy
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All-TigerNet [12029]
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Please just stop.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:13 PM
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Coaches suck and DJ sucks.
If DJ had better coaches, OL, and WRs he would still be mediocre at best. He just doesn't have what it takes between the ears.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:17 PM
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Good kid….terrible QB…..but the problem is he was given a scholarship to play QB…… but I blame it on Dabo for getting paid big big bucks and starting him got 2 years and not realizing just how bad a QB this guy is…..he knew better but did it anyway!
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 26, 2022, 7:17 PM
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Don't hate DJ and he is certainly not a loser. Fine young man IMO.
However, DJ is not good at his job and college football is big business. He has to hack it or be replaced.
Clearly, he is not hacking it. Any other paid athlete performing at his level should expect a benching and handle it like a professional.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 9:58 AM
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agree, but it’s not on him to bench himself. The one who is responsible to make that decision should take the most blame.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:02 AM
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He also gets paid for all that now. With $$ comes expectations. He has failed. Nothing else to say.
You can be the best, hardest working person in the world; but if you fail there are consequences and you have to deal with it.
Thanks to NIL, college players lost that 'they' re just kids' excuse and protection.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:07 AM
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yes i agree his ability isn’t good enough. but he has tried his hardest. that’s not a fault in my opinion.
the fault is in his coaches. the fault lies with the person responsible for continuing to run him out there knowing he’s not good enough.
DJ tried his best. I believe that. It just wasn’t good enough. But he did try his best. For that, i cannot blame him.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:05 AM
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He gives 100%. He sucks though. A lot of people try hard, have great attitudes, and are nice. People are just talking football.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:08 AM
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that’s what i’m saying. don’t bash this kid because he’s not good enough even when he tries his hardest. Bash the coaches for allowing him to continue playing knowing he’s not good enough.
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Orange Blooded [3615]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:11 AM
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I think we can say he sucks and still like him and appreciate the effort. He isn't trying to suck. I think the coaches still believed in him. We will see what happens moving forward. My opinion is that DJ is in the wrong system.
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All-In [27256]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:17 AM
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yeah, i’m just not into berating a 20year old kid who gives his best effort. Is his best good enough, well it wasn’t last night that’s for sure. But saying he sucks and all the other derogatory things i’ve seen on tnet just isn’t my cup of tea. But you do you you.
I’m just trying to point out the kid tried his best and he’s devoted enough to Clemson that I think he’s earned a bit more respect out of our fan base. I am disappointed the coaches continued to play him. I advocated from the spring for Cade to start. I think he won the job fair and square but I still believe DJ has earned enough respect through his efforts to maybe not just say “he sucks”.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:25 AM
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I don't think saying he sucks is berating him. He is supposedly a great leader and a great person. We are just talking football and we are we are now. That's all. DJ will be fine. I doubt he is that soft. It's part of sports. He isn't 16 years old. In theory he could be in the NFL next year and getting criticized even harder. These guys often go to the NFL at 21. It's part of sports. It's not like he is disliked as a human being. It's the way sports work. Big time programs are basically pro sports. If we were criticizing the play of Duke's QB it would be odd.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 2:49 PM
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Everybody don't get a trophy in this league.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:21 AM
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There are a lot of great kids on this team who work hard and never set foot on the field. DJ should be in that category.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 10:25 AM
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Most of us aren’t bashing the kid. Its not his fault. The coaches werent honest with their assessement of him initially, and they werent honest with us. We called them on it but they said “trust us.” We did. Now we are where we are. DJ does what he is told and tries his best. He’s not a guy who is capable of playing at this level. He is wealthy and could have had much better stats at a coastal or juco if that was his goal. We all wish him well, and want him to find what he is good at, but we have a responsibility to the other players on the team and this isnt little league.
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Didn't you just bash his ability in your OP?***
Nov 27, 2022, 10:25 AM
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Didn't you just bash his ability in your OP?***
Nov 27, 2022, 10:25 AM
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All-In [27256]
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Re: Didn't you just bash his ability in your OP?***
Nov 27, 2022, 10:36 AM
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it’s about respect man. that’s all. Just trying to raise a bit of awareness about respect.
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Letterman [259]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 2:47 PM
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He performance is not fare to the rest of the team. This ain't peewee ball. I'm sure he's going to have alot disappointments in his life. Like not getting drafted.
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 2:52 PM
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I agree with you that the effort is there but the execution simply is not. I don't blame DJ because I know he is trying. I'm with you on placing the blame squarely on the coaches. If they really wanted DJ to be QB1 then they should have adopted an offensive scheme that works around both his strengths and weaknesses. Instead, we tried to make him fit a scheme that he just wasn't capable of producing like we needed him to.
All blame on this staff is fine with me...
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 2:57 PM
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The block he threw for Shipley should show that he deserves respect.
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Our coaches have failed to develop him. Period.
Nov 27, 2022, 2:58 PM
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There is a reason why Deshaun Watson’s completion percentage and QB rating went down every year he was at Clemson, and his interceptions went up.
There is a reason why Trent Dilfer said that Trevor Lawrence wasn’t prepared by Clemson’s coaches for the NFL.
There is a reason why Kelly Bryant didn’t improve his passing skills, why Hunter Johnson didn’t develop, why Taisun Phommachanh didn’t improve, and why Cade Klubnik still isn’t ready to play.
The reason is coaching, or lack thereof.
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Orange Blooded [3984]
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I agree. Sometimes your best just isn’t good enough
Nov 27, 2022, 3:03 PM
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Honestly I think Dabo knows our WR’s are so bad and that he probably thinks it’s almost unfair to put Cade in there at this point in his development.
I tend to disagree because Cade’s mobility would take some pressure off of the gaping hole at wideout and would provide the opportunity to run a completely different wishbone style of offense with 3 legit running threats in Cade, Shipley, and Mafah.
I feel like we are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole with DJ and these WR’s
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Re: Listen up DJ haters
Nov 27, 2022, 3:55 PM
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All that is fine, but he didn't give us the best chance to win in three games this season and the backup hasn't been given a start.
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Oculus Spirit [93567]
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Calling anyone here a DJ hater is an exaggeration.
Nov 27, 2022, 3:57 PM
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If I've told you once, I've told you a million times. "DON'T EXAGGERATE!"
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All-In [26790]
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It's not bashing DJ to say he doesn't have the talent of
Nov 27, 2022, 4:07 PM
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an elite program QB.
It's an objective analysis, and if he has any hope of making it to the next level, he needs to be able to hear and process that feedback.
Also taking NIL money sorta crosses the rubicon of "hard-working kid" to "paid athlete subject to criticism for ratcheta$$ performances."
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