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All-TigerNet [12533]
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Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 10:51 AM
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Monday. This is very bad news. We lose the Maryland and D.C. market, we lose contiguousness of our conference, and most importantly there is nobody decent to replace them with. What could have made this a win for the ACC is if the ACC had asked West Virginia to join. The contiguousness would have remained and we actually would have had a better program than Maryland.
This is not good at all. The BigTen coming in and getting Maryland and Rutgers severs the ACC footprint at that point.
ANd don't suggest Louisville as a replacement. I am tired of getting schools like Miami, Pittsburgh and Louisville, city-named schools. And Louisville would not be contiguous at all.
Any thoughts on a replacement team?
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How do you feel about town-named schools?***
Nov 18, 2012, 10:53 AM
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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Names like Clemson and Auburn are different. People know
Nov 18, 2012, 11:00 AM
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those are college towns. Auburn is actually named after a town, but Clemson is named after a person. The town of Clemson was actually called Fort Hill, South Carolina for over 50 years after the school was founded.
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CU Guru [1441]
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I believe it was called Calhoun, SC and Fort Hill was the
Nov 18, 2012, 11:09 AM
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manse (parsonage) for the Old Stone Church.
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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You might be right, but I have some yearbooks from the
Nov 18, 2012, 11:12 AM
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early 1940's and they say Clemson College, Fort Hill, South Carolina.
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CU Guru [1441]
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That's cool. Wasn't arguing, just how I've always heard it.
Nov 18, 2012, 11:15 AM
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point for your trouble
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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Yes, I'm still not sure if I'm right. The only thing I was
Nov 18, 2012, 11:53 AM
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going on was the yearbooks. And I have heard about the Calhoun deal, but didn't thikn about it until you mentioned it.
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 10:53 AM
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I think oit is great and there is no DCV tv market. It is a pro town. MD cant sell out a 60,00 seat stadium. I'd rather have our share of the $50 million. Get Cincy in and try to get the Ohio tv market
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 4:44 PM
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Dosen't matter if they can sell to a pro market. BC's area is a NFL area too, but having that TV market is huge.
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Take the 50 mil.
Nov 18, 2012, 10:56 AM
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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They won't pay close to $50 million. That thing will be
Nov 18, 2012, 11:02 AM
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cut down so much by the time the lawyers and negotiations are finished. They may even claim that the amount wsa unreasonable and ammounts to a punitive measure. And the fact that they were one of two schools that voted against it will be in their favor. They will be able to use that in the case.
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CU Guru [1111]
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Agree probably have to pay the $20 mill amount prior to the
Nov 18, 2012, 11:06 AM
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Increase
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if UMd established that the buyout increase was done by..
Nov 18, 2012, 2:28 PM
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...coercion without any waiting period for UMd to pursue options, FSU may be the only other school that use argument. Clemson would definitely be excluded because Barker supposedly pushed for the increase buyout and voted for it.
also, i heard that FSU is willing to challenge the legality of the buyout on the grounds that only the BOT can incur a liability of that amount for the school.
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 11:00 AM
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UCLA(upper conway,lower aynor)
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Orange Blooded [3908]
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This is hardly a done deal...
Nov 18, 2012, 11:01 AM
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...have folks not learned.
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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I hope you're right, but I think it is a done deal. The
Nov 18, 2012, 11:05 AM
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Maryland brass has only issued no comment for the last week and no denials. THe Maryland media and now national media has been all over it and still no denials. ESPN and CBS reporting that announcement could com e as early as Monday.
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I've heard that the Board of Regents is hardly in favor of
Nov 18, 2012, 11:28 AM
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the move.
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Athletic Dir [872]
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Clemson & FSU to SEC announcement could come as early as...
Nov 18, 2012, 11:03 AM
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...2 years ago.
Don't sweat it. If you're gonna worry, worry when it happens.
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CU Guru [1111]
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UConn is the only real choice Academics BB w/ FB as an after
Nov 18, 2012, 11:03 AM
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Thought perfect fit for the ACC
Please Clemson join the Big 12 before we go irrelevant in FB
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I won't believe it until York weighs in on the issue
Nov 18, 2012, 11:03 AM
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Is the end near?
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Orange Blooded [3348]
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Good thing for you Clemson is a town and not a city
Nov 18, 2012, 11:05 AM
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or I just might would have to take exception to your comment there. 
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That actually does make a difference , see Auburn. However,
Nov 18, 2012, 11:07 AM
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Clemson University is not named after a town, it is named after a person. The town of Clemson was actually a name change to match the University. The town was Fort Hill, South Carolina at least up into the 1940's I believe. I wish the Town had stayed Fort Hill for that matter.
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to be contiguousness on the Atlantic.... the ACC needs
Nov 18, 2012, 11:06 AM
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Delaware and New Jersey. Pennsylvania (Pitt) ain't on the Atlantic Seaboard. but the real blow won't be losing the MD & DC market, but letting in the Big 10, which has a bigger share of PA and will be getting boost in NJ/NY w/ Rutgers if they join.
it will be hard to make up w/ a team from the midwest like Cinci or Louisville (& which the Tobacco Rd schools will never support).
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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We are a contiguous conference now. See the map. It doesn't
Nov 18, 2012, 11:10 AM
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matter that New Jersey and Delaware are not included as long as the states we have are contiguous, and they are. Tehy will not be whern Maryland leaves. There is no rule and nobody ever said the ACC had to be only states on the Atlantic coast. See Pacific Twelve Conference, they have had Arizona for decades and now have Utah and Colorado.
If we had West Virginia, the contigousness problem of losing Maryland would be solved, but that ship has sailed.
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Simple solution would be to replace them with Navy.
Nov 18, 2012, 11:08 AM
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I'd like that better, anyway.
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All-TigerNet [12533]
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I think that is the best option (pardon the pun) too. That
Nov 18, 2012, 11:15 AM
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would also be good for Notre Dame and possibility of future membership.
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Navy. interesting thought.
Nov 18, 2012, 12:53 PM
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Maintain presence in the area- though probably no better draw than Terps in regards to tv draw ( foosball-wise).
Prestigious school but not an upgrade in the big ticket sports and wouldnt increase perception of ACC for foosball. uCONN I would prefer over UL.
Before the UM bombshell I thought Rutgers would be the final piece of the ACC. In part because of decent athletics but more so because of the www.aau.edu membership.
I think UCONN will be it.
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Navy would be a great fit and would add a greater sense
Nov 18, 2012, 2:00 PM
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of identity and prestige to the league. Then collect Penn State along with Notre Dame as a full member and we're set at 16. The B1G could add UConn to fill PSU's spot. Take MD's buyout money and use it for Navy and the Big East. It'd be great to have a military school as part of the league going forward.
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I think The DC market cares about MD football about as much
Nov 18, 2012, 11:08 AM
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As the NY/NJ market cares about Rutgers football -- which is to say not much.
I'm curious about the difference in per-team TV money of the Big compared to the ACC. $50 Mil is certainly a lot, but if you can make it back in a few years you could maybe justify the move.
I guess the ACC would go after UConn. Not good for those of us that like football.
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I live up there and no cares about or watches the Terps.
Nov 18, 2012, 12:29 PM
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They barely make the local news.
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Va Tech carries that market much more than MD***
Nov 18, 2012, 2:36 PM
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 11:11 AM
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Louisville. As long as Charlie Strong and Rick Pitino are there, Louisville will be getting a piece of the money pie. They will be consistently good...top ten good (football will only get better). The DC TV market is useless is nobody wants to watch Maryland football or basketball, which has essentially been the case for the last five years.
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 11:12 AM
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My initial reaction is take the money and let them run... And why worry about a replacement?
1. With an odd number of teams, it would make an easier transition for ND to be a full ACC member if that were to happen, even though it's not likely.
2. Maybe without an even number of teams we could get rid of this divisional football system and have the two best teams play for the championship at the end of the season.
3. There aren't any postseason implications as of right now with dropping MD and not replacing them, so there should be no hurry to rush out and add another school just for the sake of adding another school like Pitt and Cuse. If we are going to add another team, they should make the ACC better, not worse.
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LOL...Read my lips...Notre Dame will NEVER become a full
Nov 18, 2012, 11:34 AM
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member. Why should they when the ACC bends over backwards and gives them everything they want without the commitment. As it stands they will have access to our bowls without having to share any of their bowl revenue. They have the sweetheart of sweetheart deals.
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 11:24 AM
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RPI. I love the name. Renselear Polytechnical Institute
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Better get the $50MM from MD as this will trigger clause in
Nov 18, 2012, 11:33 AM
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TV contract and lower the payout to ACC from ESPN...the DC market is huge from a revenue standpoint and currently there is not a viable $$$ replacement.
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In my mind it just opens up a spot for ND without needing to
Nov 18, 2012, 11:49 AM
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add someone else. Notre Dame won't stay out forever.
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 11:50 AM
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Telling everyone...watch for Penn St to ACC rumors to begin now...and there is some fire to the smoke in those rumors
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I think that is impossible due to the Big Ten having an
Nov 18, 2012, 11:56 AM
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agreement that if a team leaves, they BigTen owns their tv rights for about 10 years. Plus that would not solve the contiguous problem. It would help the conference no doubt, but I think it is impossible.
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Re: I think that is impossible due to the Big Ten having an
Nov 18, 2012, 1:10 PM
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If $50 mil can be argued in court then TV rights will be argued as well
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What ya think about South Florida as replacement!
Nov 18, 2012, 12:32 PM
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 12:46 PM
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lol what makes Maryland so great? I say good riddance to their Jersey shore trashy fan base.
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I thought all the idiots left after this crap last year..***
Nov 18, 2012, 1:00 PM
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UConn & Penn State rumors start again as soon as Monday***
Nov 18, 2012, 1:07 PM
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Why in the world would Penn St want to leave the Big 10?***
Nov 18, 2012, 1:58 PM
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Access to FL-GA Recruting and Most PSU Alumni Are East Coast***
Nov 18, 2012, 2:15 PM
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 1:16 PM
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Debate Debate Debate: I can't figure why the BIG would even want the terps!! Unless they feel they may be losing a school near the region.
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Orange Blooded [2663]
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West Virginia is a joke of an academic institution. They
Nov 18, 2012, 1:40 PM
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aren't going to be asked to join. This is a newsflash for all of you desperately wanting us to leave the ACC, or for the ACC to take some academic bottom-feeder like Louisville: yes, there are huge financial incentives involved in who joins what conference, but the school presidents would never allow a joke school like West Virginia to join.
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 2:04 PM
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So grab Navy. ND would like that.
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 2:51 PM
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Working in the Baltimore/DC area for the last 3 years, it seems like the area pays more attention to VA Tech than Maryland
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 4:45 PM
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I've lived up here for 12 years. Back when UMD was getting 9-10 win seasons, the Junks and all the other sports talk radio stations were mentioning them.
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 2:55 PM
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Clemson will be fine. If the ACC goes to shreds, then the Big 12, SEC or Big 10 will grab it... or Clemson and FSU can take lead and rebuild the ACC as it should be perhaps.
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Maryland is Broke......
Nov 18, 2012, 4:41 PM
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don't see this happening.
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Miami and Pitt are excellent universities.***
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Re: Maryland announcement to Big Ten could come as early as
Nov 18, 2012, 4:56 PM
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miami pitt and syracuse are very prestigious private schools with rich fb tradition..and are an asset to the acc ..the acc were FOOLS for not extending and offer to rutgers and nailing the nyc market.. better than uconn ever can or will and now losing ..the dc market..swofford looked like god getting pit & 'cuse and partial nd..but this is a a MAJOR gash in the conference as you have rightfully pointed out..
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ALERT...ALERT....ALERT
Nov 18, 2012, 5:07 PM
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sky is falling..
hahahaha..j/k
Now,now is the time to put an ALL OUT BLITZ ON
NOTRE DAME in FOOTBALL!!
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