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Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 24, 2021, 11:03 PM
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Both coaches arrived in Athens at 41 yrs old. Richt had spent 15 yrs as a Fla State asst being promoted to OC after Brad Scott left and coaching Ward and Wenke, two Heisman winners and 6 NFL QB's. Kirby had spent 11 years coaching for Saban: one year at LSU, one in Miami, the rest at Bama including 8 yrs as DC. Smart coached RB's at UGA one year in 2006 but cannot spell QB.
First 5 years as HC at UGA comparison looks like this:
Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP°
2016 Georgia 8–5 4–4 T–2nd (Eastern) W Liberty
2017 Georgia 13–2 7–1 1st (Eastern) W Rose†, L CFP NCG† 2 2
2018 Georgia 11–3 7–1 1st (Eastern) L Sugar† 8 7
2019 Georgia 12–2 7–1 1st (Eastern) W Sugar† 4 4
2020 Georgia 8–2 7–2 2nd (Eastern) W Peach† 7 7
Georgia: 52–14 32–9
Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP°
Georgia Bulldogs (Southeastern Conference) (2001–2015)
2001 Georgia 8–4 5–3 T–3rd (Eastern) L Music City 25 22
2002 Georgia 13–1 7–1 1st (Eastern) W Sugar† 3 3
2003 Georgia 11–3 6–2 T–1st (Eastern) W Capital One 6 7
2004 Georgia 10–2 6–2 2nd (Eastern) W Outback 6 7
2005 Georgia 10–3 6–2 1st (Eastern) L Sugar† 10 10
Record: 52-13. 30-10
Looks like jury is still out on this one. Comparable records and bowl records. But Kirby needs solid OC help and needs to stay away from the QB room to take the step Richt never could. Losing Fields was catastrophic. UGA's bowl loss vs Texas with the stacked UGA roster and UGA players chirping was also a bit shady. The UGA players are not eagle scouts - they are there to win like a watered-down Jimmy Johnson Miami team. But they recruit and produce standout OL and DL and LB's and RB's. The talent is there, and if Kirby can win the big one at UGA, he will pass Richt's legacy quickly. Or a program scandal could preclude Kirby's future at UGA? Either is possible.
We will learn more Sept.4 when Kirby tries to out-macho Bresee, Davis and Murphy. I have a hunch Murphy will have a national coming-out party as a superstar DE. Go Tigers!
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 24, 2021, 11:27 PM
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Bravo, well done, great comparison I never realized it was that close between those two.
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It is worse than that. Data indicates UGA
May 25, 2021, 8:19 AM
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Was better under Mark.
Remember florida, Auburn, and Tennessee have been down during the smart years.
Florida is coming back.
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Re: It is worse than that. Data indicates UGA
May 25, 2021, 9:08 AM
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Smart years. Oxymoron. Him not you
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Re: It is worse than that. Data indicates UGA
May 25, 2021, 3:58 PM
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Remember florida, Auburn, and Tennessee have been down during the smart years.
Actually Florida had the exact same record during both Richt's and Kirby's first 5 seasons at 42-20 both times. Florida did, however, have more top 10 seasons during Kirby's 1st 5 years (2 vs 1), as well as more Bowl wins, and more Major Bowl appearances. And while Auburn was slightly better under the Richt years (5 more wins, or 1/season), Kentucky has been way better during Kirby's tenure. And yeah, it's just Kentucky, but keep in mind Kentucky is 4-2 vs the ACC since 2016. But the biggest difference is Alabama. Kirby has faced them 3 times in his 5 years, and they were much better than in Richt's early years. But you're right about Tennessee, they have flat-out tanked.
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UGA Motto: Doing less with more for many many years!***
May 25, 2021, 6:16 AM
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 8:11 AM
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Yeah, this horse has been beaten to death many many times among Dawg fans. Nearly even comparison.
Just curious, can you do one comparing Kirby's first 5 years with Dabo's first 5?
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Sure...
May 25, 2021, 8:19 AM
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Right after we do one comparing Mark Richt's last 5 to Tommy Bowden's last 5.
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Re: Sure...
May 25, 2021, 8:36 AM
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Uhhh ok, go right ahead.
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Looks like I'm going to have to do the work here...
May 25, 2021, 8:46 AM
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Richt averaged nearly 10 wins a season his last 5 years before being lured away by Miami.
Bowden averaged 8 wins a season his last 5 years (not counting his disastrous final partial season) before being fired.
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Re: Looks like I'm going to have to do the work here...
May 25, 2021, 9:34 AM
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Yeah and he was a deflected pass in the endzone from getting a BCS birth in 2012
And I think they had a loss to the coots... what is it with Jawja? Whenever they have NC aspirations, they choke on the chickens. Never give dawgs bone-in poultry is the rule but they even have a DVM program and don't know that....
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 8:55 AM
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Dabo's first five -first full five season right? Shesh, Dabo had a whole lot more work to build but sure -
Dabo: 1 Conference title. Finished 1st/tied for first in the division 3 of his first 5 years 0.500 in CCG
Punt: 1 Conference title. Finished 1st/lied for first in the division 3 of his first 5 years 0.250 in CCG
Dabo was 30-10
Punt was 32-9 BUT with Covid, playing more game.... and that Dabo had a NC team in the same division (Kirby has, lol Vandy and basically a GUTTED Least with the best coach likely at Kentucky)
Now, lets compare the last 40 calendar tears... err I mean years
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 4:04 PM
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Dabo was 30-10
Punt was 32-9 BUT with Covid, playing more game....
Now, lets compare the last 40 calendar tears... err I mean years
Yeah, there's always a question of whether to include a partial year or not for guys who come in mid-season. But starting with Dabo's first full season in 2009, actually the W-L records are 52-14(.788) for Kirby and 47-20(.701) for Dabo. Not sure where you're pulling your data from. But the full tale of the tape is:
Overall W-L record:
Kirby 52-14 (.788)
Dabo 47-20(.701)
Advantage Kirby
Wins vs Top 10 Opponents:
Kirby 10
Dabo 5
Advantage Kirby
1-loss Regular Seasons (neither had an undefeated season)
Kirby 3
Dabo 0
Advantage Kirby
Losses to South Carolina
Kirby 1
Dabo 5
Advantage Kirby
Bowl Wins
Kirby 4
Dabo 3
Advantage Kirby
Major Bowl Game record
Kirby 2-1
Dabo 0-1 (Ruh-Roh)
Advantage Kirby
Consensus Top 10 Finishes
Kirby 4
Dabo 1
Advantage Kirby
Losses to Unranked opponents
Kirby 3
Dabo 8
Advantage Kirby
And comparing our programs over the last 40 years:
Overall W-L
UGA 367-139-5 (.723)
Clemson 362-144-5 (.713)
Advantage UGA
Against the ACC:
UGA 45-16-1 (.734)
Clemson 218-92-2 (.702)
Advantage UGA
Against the SEC:
UGA 203-104 (.660)
Clemson 37-31-1 (.543)
Advantage UGA
Bowl Game W-L:
UGA 24-12-2 (.658)
Clemson 20-17 (.541)
Advantage UGA
Bowl Losses by more than a TD:
UGA 0
Clemson 10
Advantage UGA
And perhaps most importantly of all, Head to head UGA leads 10-5
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 4:55 PM
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I pulled conference games. Normalizes the schedule against fixed opponents. Keeps the records against weaker OOC games off the books.
Unlike Jawja, we did not schedule Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee and UMASS in a single season. Heck, that was Kirby's third season.
Lets look at those "top 10" wins... 2016 Auburn... actually finished 22nd at 8-5. That isn't a good team.2017 - Beat both auburn and oklahoma in the SEC CG and Semis... also lost to #10 Auburn and #4 Alabama
2018 - Beat #9 Florida... that finished 7th at 10-3 and was 5-3 in conference.
2019 - Beat #7 ND... that finsihed 12th. Beat Balyor, beat Florida lost to the coots and LSU
2020 - Beat #8 Auburn that finished unranked, beat Cincy. Lost to Bama and Florida.
Kirby has only a handful of wins outside of Auburn which follow a pattern of being ranked in ther top 10 when playing Jawja and then being 8-5 or less. He is what 9-6 against top 10 teams... and a lot of losses to 11-19 teams too.
Dabo play a top 10 miami, lot to GT top 10 squad, took sCam to overtime at the plains (yall got hammered by 18) but it wasnt a top 10 matchup at the time. Beat # 5 VT, but also beat #11 FSU and then #11 VT that same season. Beat #9 LSU, beat a #5 Jawja team, Beat OSU.
So Dabo beat: Miami, OSU, LSU, VT (twice at 11) FSU at #11. Kirby has only beaten Cincy, Baylor and ND OOC -
Dabo walked into a situation where our program was faltering, Jawja had a top 10 finish only 2 years prior.
How many has Jawja lost to Spurrier. During our rebuilding years and 5 loss run, Jawja was 1-4
1-loss "regular seasons" don't mean anything unless you win the conference and/or playoff.
How about the number of times you have beaten Alabama in the past 10 years. What, no?
And you forgot the most important one: Modern national championships. Why didn't you include that?
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 6:24 PM
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It's funny you bring up 2016 Auburn. Yeah, they lost 5 games but 4 of the 5 were to ranked teams, and the other was to us. We beat them by the same margin you did in your Championship season. Speaking of, the only top10 team you played in the Reg season that year was Louisville, who was a complete joke. They got thrashed by freaking Houston, lost to 7-6 Kentucky, and got thrashed by LSU. Talk about a pretender! You mention that top 10 Miami team in '09. Same thing, they limped home with 4 losses and a 19 ranking. And that "top 10 GT squad"? They got beat at home by Mark Richt's 2nd worst team at UGA, then took the gas in the Bowl Game. That "#5 VT" team finished #21, and that "#11 FSU" lost at home to 5-loss Virginia, to 7-loss Wake Forest, and finished 23rd. So you can't have it both ways.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 8:23 PM
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Lol both ways - typical jawja fan.Only in the "sec" where losses are a good thing. They got beat by "ranked teams" and us -huh?. Isn't that the year you lost to... Vandy? Oh and didn't you have Auburn at home. Granted, enough bad teams beat you between the hedges but a 13-7 win isn't all that appealing, and it wasn't as much of a showing as our 11 sacks on them.
Yeah, 2016, we dismantled OSU and then beat Alabama. Cool story brah. The "only" team we beat wasUofL and they were completely dismantling everyone. Eventually folks cracked the Lamar code (ie he was the ONLY player) but good-grief they were good. Completely forgot to mention the opposite... that FSU finished 8th that year. Hummm...
Jawja - We lose to really good teams and occasionally win - right?
How does it feel that GT has won more championships in the last 35 years that y'all? Shoot, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn... all the folks around y'all have won. I mean, if it wasn't for the coots, you would be lonely in not winning anything.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 10:23 PM
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Louisville was "dismantling everyone"? What a joke! Exactly who were they "dismantling"? Charlotte? A 4-8 Syracuse team? 3-8 Marshall? FSU was hit and miss who lost at home to a 5-loss UNC and barely beat a 5-7 Ole Miss team. Please. I never said Auburn was any kind of juggernaught that year, but losing to ranked teams isn't as bad as getting embarrassed by unranked teams the way Louisville did. I don't expect you guys to understand that though. Just like losing to a 6-7 Vandy (who beat Ole Miss worse than the afore-mentioned FSU did) in your first season isn't as bad as losing to a 2-10 Maryland (whose only other win in 2009 was against James Madison in OT).
And your 11 sacks against Auburn were in 2017, not '16, when they were without Kerryon Johnson (with KJ in the lineup, they beat Bama and split with us that year).
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 26, 2021, 8:56 AM
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"hit and miss" FSU - they finished 8th. They beat y'alls daddy Florida by 18 and followed it up with a win over Meeeeechigan. Not only that but UofL beat them by 43 and was just an offensive clinic. I know a few faithful here think DW4 was cheated that year but Larmar earned it in that game. Heck he backed it up against us. But eventually, no matter how great an individual performance, give DCs enough time and they will adapt to a single player w and petrino was know for losing momentum/lockerroom
Or is NC a bad team? 8-5 they were not great but dangerous lurker and win two top 25 matchups. They were not a 3-9 South Carolina.
I thought Jawja was the poster child for having a unexplained loss to an unranked with a good team. And then completely disappearing in the important games.
All in all, we know that most of the ACC focuses on basketball the same way the Athens crown focuses on arrest warrants but out of all year to "complain" about the ACC's relative strength, 2016? Really?
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 26, 2021, 10:19 AM
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I wasn't "complaining" about 2016. That was one of the very few seasons the ACC actually had a winning record vs the SEC (one of only two in what, the last 15+ years?) I was talking about one specific team, Auburn, who you brought up. Then you brought up Louisville and UNC. Really? The only two teams who were winless vs the SEC that year? Remember, Kirby beat UNC in his first ever game at UGA. And FSU? Yes, when you lose to a 5-loss team at home, and give up a 60 spot to a team who lost to 6-7 Kentucky, and got blown out by LSU & Houston, that's inconsistent. I didn;t say they were bad, I said they were inconsistent (hit & miss). You keep bringing up our loss to USC (4-8, not 3-9, btw - not that that makes much difference), and yes that was a bad loss. But they are the only bad team Kirby has lost to in 4 years. It's not like Dabo hasn't had his own stinkers of late.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 26, 2021, 7:31 AM
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The comparison of Dabo & KS shows KS to be clearly the better coach.
The comparison of Clemson to Georgia
shows Georgia to be clearly the better team.
A comparison of the rosters of Clemson and Georgia shows KS to be a better recruiter than Dabo.
There is no point at all in the two teams playing. Our Tigers have no chance.
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This is the 5th straight year Georgia has won the talking season. 2021 is the 41st season in a row Georgia fans have been teed up so high in the off season.
In the real seasons following the talking season Championships Dawg fans have see neighboring state schools from South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama and Florida win 20+ National Titles in Football. Heck even Georgia Tech won a Natty in those 40 long, hard, actual football seasons following right after Dawg Fans won the Talking Season Title.
Yaknow, even Dawg fans know in their tiny little brains what is most likely to happen yet again.
Man, that must hurt.
Go Tigers!
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 8:54 AM
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Richt's first 5 years were really good, but he lost that edge, and never produced at the same level consistently over the last 10 years of his tenure.
Kirby's first five years has been a demonstrable upgrade over Richt's last five, and recruiting has never been better. The talent is there, and the breakthrough will come soon.
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Kirby is in over his head.***
May 25, 2021, 9:19 AM
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In his defense...
May 25, 2021, 9:29 AM
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Kirby is a very small man. He would be in over his head in most recreational pools
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Re: Kirby is in over his head.***
May 25, 2021, 10:18 AM
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There are only a handful of teams that wouldn't trade their HC for Kirby in a blink of an eye. Clemson is one of them. Alabama another. It's then arguable after that.
If that's "in over his head" then so be it.
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Agreed...
May 25, 2021, 11:38 AM
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No good team would trade their coach for Kirby Smart.
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Re: Kirby is in over his head.***
May 25, 2021, 11:38 AM
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It's time for Kirby to win big. It's all in place. As a Dawg fan I do worry about his in-game decision making at times.
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^ Real talk...
May 25, 2021, 11:43 AM
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I like it.
He’s a very good recruiter.
He’s a very good defensive mind.
He tries to run an outdated offense because it complements his defense.
His in game decision making is questionable.
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Re: ^ Real talk...
May 25, 2021, 11:48 AM
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He tries to run an outdated offense because it complements his defense.
You're going to be surprised about this one.
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He reminds me a little of Dan Mullen...
May 25, 2021, 11:55 AM
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Except Mullen is offensive minded. Both field a very good team. Both struggle with the side of the ball opposite of what they coach. Both are good for at least one inexplicable loss each year that is a direct result of a head coaching decision(s).
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Re: He reminds me a little of Dan Mullen...
May 25, 2021, 12:01 PM
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And/or complete loss of a players emotions/conduct in committing a irrational decision after a football play.
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Re: He reminds me a little of Dan Mullen...
May 25, 2021, 12:05 PM
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That was more of a Mark Richt UGA trait than one under Kirby.
You could always count on some ill-timed personal fouls from Richt's Dawgs, but with Kirby it is much more rare.
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Re: He reminds me a little of Dan Mullen...
May 25, 2021, 1:31 PM
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Smart has the exact same issues. In the 2020 Arky game, you had 8 penalties.... in the first quarter. Straight out of the gate and full Jawja. Spotted a team with one conference win in three year seven points out of the gate.
It might feel more common with Richt, but that was only because he kept Jawja in the game more often. Kirby gets torched. 40-14, 36-16, 37-10, 41-24, 44-28. Ok, Richt got beaten soundly at times but his losses always seem like you were in those games and then elected out.
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Re: He reminds me a little of Dan Mullen...
May 25, 2021, 12:03 PM
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Except Mullen is offensive minded. Both field a very good team. Both struggle with the side of the ball opposite of what they coach. Both are good for at least one inexplicable loss each year that is a direct result of a head coaching decision(s).
Funny enough, Mullen is actually more like Richt than Kirby. Some of their biggest flaws are loyalty to friends on the staff that just aren't outstanding coaches and/or recruiters and recruiting at a high level, but not an elite level.
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Re: ^ Real talk...
May 25, 2021, 9:17 PM
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Apparently it happens every once in awhile.
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Re: Kirby is in over his head.***
May 25, 2021, 11:47 AM
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It's time for Kirby to win big. It's all in place. As a Dawg fan I do worry about his in-game decision making at times.
Yeah, there's a learning curve to everything in life. Saban didn't win it all until his 9th year of being a HC. Dabo needed 8 full seasons. Kirby is still on track.
For example, he's let go of the conservative run-first offensive mentality with the addition of Monken as the OC and he's slowly changing his defensive philosophy toward a more aggressive style of play. For example, you'll notice the DL one-gapping much more often this year than you have seen in the past.
The jury is still out, but he's trending in the right direction.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 10:08 AM
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Pretty sure Richt was fired for his last 5 years and not his first 5.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 10:24 AM
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Kirby was fired because he was about to become head coach for the coots.
They forced your hand.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 10:33 AM
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Who fired Kirby? What are you talking about?
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 10:48 AM
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there I go looking into the future.
RICHT was fired because Kirby was about to be hired by the coots.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 10:50 AM
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I thought you mean punty was hired before he was hired by the coots...
Same difference. Typical jawja not thinking that typos are an internet might require critical thinking....
Confusion already existed.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 11:53 AM
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What is Jawja? What are you talking about?
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 12:06 PM
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Fear, loathing, desperation, disappointment, and most importantly a failure to achieve with lofty expectations.
Take away those expectations and you get a coot.
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FutureDoc, where?
May 26, 2021, 10:40 AM
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This is off-topic, but I'm curious, what kind of "future doc" are you studying to be & where?
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Re: FutureDoc, where?
May 26, 2021, 11:17 AM
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<---- That is me in the avatar to the left... over 10 years ago.
I have Clemson's purple pimp suit with three tiger stripes on each sleeve.
"FutureDoc" comes from my father-in-law's bluegrass band when I was engaged to his daughter. My father-in-law is-"Doc" (UGA ironically and thus he is only allowed to work on animals, not humans -that is illegal). I am human subject certified. "Mrs Doc" is his wife, and I married "LittleDoc" (a proper Clemson Girl).
"FutureDoc" comes from marrying into the family and marrying "LittleDoc". It was unwittingly spot on so I kept it.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 11:38 AM
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I wouldn't say "they forced" UGA's hand exactly. More like they sped up the process.
Richt was a dead man walking after he inexplicably started Faton Bauta vs. UF that year to the tune of 4 INTs and 0 TDs. It was the only game time Bauta ever got at UGA beyond stepping in at the end of a blow out for 5 passes the year before. Richt was gone that year no matter what, but the prospect of losing Kirby to the coots did force UGA to fire him after the last game of the regular season rather than waiting until after the bowl game.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 11:36 AM
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Richt just fooled yall into to paying him millions to go to miami where he wanted to go.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 10:51 AM
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As a Tiger fan . Have give respect to Richt and Kirby. The state of GA is a great talent of fb players to choose from. Kirby can recruit. If they ever beat Bama that will tip the scales in recruiting. Until then The Clemson product that Dabo puts out must continue to evolve. Because some people still do not give The Tigers the respect that they have earned.
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Re: Mark Richt -- Kirby Smart UGA Records
May 25, 2021, 11:53 AM
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I respected Richt a lot. He did try and at least change/control Jawja's self destructive culture until he just could not fight it anymore. Then the Jawja-ness shined through and he was not accepted anymore.
Kirby just went full Jawja, doubled down on Jawja and jawja-ed it all up.
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Regardless of coach, seems like the Dawgs have ALWAYS
May 25, 2021, 6:51 PM
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been a team that is very good at running the football. Passing game may come and go (mostly go) for them, but as you say, they always seem to be able to recruit solid O-line and running backs.
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