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Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 26, 2022, 10:16 AM
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....Deion Sanders. The gist of the discussion was what would happen if FSU finishes 6-6 or 5-7 or even 4-8 this year. Would FSU fire Norvell and hire Deion?
Their points were:
1. Deion has made it very clear he wants to be the HC at FSU.
2. Deion is a hot commodity on the coaching market now. (Not sure I agree with that. Deion is telling people he is a hot commodity, or at least his agent is. Not sure ADs are considering him a hot commodity.)
3. If FSU doesn't fire Norvell this year, after a 6-6 or 7-5 year, Deion could wait one more year. FSU could tell his agent, "Be patient. Next year the buyout for Norvell will be small enough we can pay it and afford to hire Deion.
My take: Those guys are just talking for ratings. They have nothing to support their "concerns" that Norvell may get fired and replaced by Deion.
1. I don't think the FSU administration would be stupid enough to hire Deion even if Norvell finished 4-8 this year and 0-12 next year. They may fire Norvell, but they won't hire Deion. If they think Jimbo was a ticking time bomb, they ain't seen nothing yet. Deion is a great promoter of Deion. There is nothing in his background to suggest he is this generation's Bobby Bowden or Dabo Swinney.
2. I am making this promise to y'all today: If FSU actually hires Deion at some point in the future, I will change my username to clembret and hope to see several shirtless men reading books in Doak Campbell Stadium not only for the Clemson game but for several other home games for the Noles.
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And I thought I was the only one . . .
Oct 26, 2022, 10:22 AM
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who wouldn’t like Deion as a HC . . .
We’ll need to change your avatar too . . . I’ll work on that in the meantime.
You fit in well here . . . and would make a Great Tiger!!!!!!!
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Re: And I thought I was the only one . . .
Oct 26, 2022, 2:35 PM
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I love that suggestion for an avatar.
Oct 28, 2022, 8:39 AM
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That is definitely a cool avatar. I have no idea how to make it mine, but if someone on this board has the ability to change it, you definitely have my permission and my approval.
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Re: And I thought I was the only one . . .
Oct 27, 2022, 10:03 PM
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Could he then afford to forego his cheesy ad with Saban? It'd be a relief.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 26, 2022, 10:25 AM
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I have not seen anything from him (Deion) that tells me that he could successfully run a major program.
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Have you not seen his duck commercial...HC material
Oct 26, 2022, 10:30 AM
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definitely. In all seriousness, it could be worse than the TAMU Jumbo hire.
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Hey Bret...what is the general consensus on Fisher at FSU?
Oct 26, 2022, 10:32 AM
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Are fans happy that he is failing at TAMU....would y'all take him back?
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He could pay FSU his full buyout...
Oct 28, 2022, 8:43 AM
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.... and most fans still wouldn't want him back.
The way he treated FSU the last 2 years at least, actually more like 3 years, the fans have more dislike for him than Clemson fans have.
He is a jerk. If you took a poll among fans for who is the biggest jerk in the history of the NCAA the top 2 vote getters would be Spurrier and Fisher. Not sure who would end up #1. It would be close.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 26, 2022, 10:36 AM
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Would they play all their games in Prime Time??
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Genius level observation.
Oct 26, 2022, 12:59 PM
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deion would be a disaster after the novelty wore off
Oct 26, 2022, 10:37 AM
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ga tech should try to get him as they have nothing to lose.....FSU is too big of a school to hire a clown
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FSU does have a clown college.
Oct 26, 2022, 1:03 PM
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GO TIGERS BEAT EM ALL!
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Deion is now, and has always been, and will always BE, all
Oct 26, 2022, 10:37 AM
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about self promotion. I am continually amazed that people keeping falling for his schtick.
Although, it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch than Aflac Insurance. I hate those clowns. I had their product for one calendar year, a year in which I had a lot of medical issues. Not one dime did Aflac pay on a single, solitary claim. Be forewarned.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 26, 2022, 10:58 AM
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No.
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FSU will win out the rest of their games so moot point***
Oct 26, 2022, 11:02 AM
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FSU has to play at Syracuse, so not so sure about that.
Oct 26, 2022, 11:56 AM
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You hit your head on the nail. Deion is outstanding at
Oct 26, 2022, 11:18 AM
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self-promotion. Always has been. I expect he always will be. But as a D1/FBS head coach?
I don't think so, Tim.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 26, 2022, 11:24 AM
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IDK, I think the admin would be resistant but that will be a tough sell NOT to take him. I kinda look at Deion akin to Scott Frost. A hot coaching alum name but with limited history.
It is one thing to convince some mid-level talent to john JSU to run amuck in a lesser league. Same thing for UCF. It is a far different ball-game when you have to convince the top talent to join your squad over the known contenders. THAT is hard. That is what made the late 90s/00s hard for us vs Bowden's FSU. Sure, we could get a few but getting a complete team is hard. Could Deion get a complete team over the Saban, Dabo, and Kirby? Or will he be fighting for Ol'Miss scraps.
What I am seeing from Norvell is that his kids are not quitting. That is a big deal and hard to turn around. Frost kids quit. Jimbo/Taggert kids quit. Norvell isn't there. Even when Dabo was interim/2nd season, there were hard times but they didn't quit. Changing the culture there is a big deal (look at Miami). Because to have a chance at the upper levels, you need to over-perform with less first. Could he take a mid-level program an win?
The scary and I don't think it is a good idea, but FSU needs to find a Doeren-like coahc that is winning more than expected at a rubbish tier school.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 26, 2022, 11:31 AM
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Yeah, bretclem doesn’t have the same ring to it.
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Way back, 20 years ago, when I first joined...
Oct 28, 2022, 8:47 AM
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....Tnet, I tried to use fsubret but for some reason it was rejected. (Been a long time, don't remember why.) I tried bretfsu and it worked. That's how the name came about.
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Waiting for "ClemBert" to chime in with his concerns ...
Oct 26, 2022, 11:54 AM
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... about your proposed new handle.
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Bet a bucket of cold water was tossed on the
Oct 26, 2022, 12:06 PM
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Jackson City Council with Sanders' recent interview wherein he indicated his interest in a P5.
The council passed a resolution supporting a new stadium for J State, hoping to convince Prime Time to stay. So much for that!
If there's one thing I've learned about college football: expect the unexpected. Therefore, I'm convinced some P5 will want him, gold chains and all. And I wouldn't blink if it was a program like..........Auburn! lol. FSU is probably on the right track with Norvell; he just needs more time.
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Deion made public comments...
Oct 28, 2022, 8:49 AM
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....when FSU hired Taggart that he wanted the job and they should have hired him. He made those comments at the time Taggart was hired.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 26, 2022, 12:14 PM
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We would welcome you with open arms.
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watch the spelling, clembret... clembert is already taken
Oct 26, 2022, 1:09 PM
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 26, 2022, 1:33 PM
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Scott Frost got his dream job, quickly I might add, turned out FUBAR, BV got a dream job and Oklahoma went backwards quickly, Oklahoma shouldn’t have regressed this much in one season. Florida St., should be prudent here, Norvell is changing the culture in the right direction, I’ve definitely seen progress in them. Deion will get his shot one day, it’s just that we see stuff like this happen a lot and it goes south quick. Even though Harbaugh has Michigan playing well the last 2 years, it’s taken like a decade, the size of his contract is what kept Michigan from firing years ago.
All of Miami’s moves have been disaster’s. FSU actually has a shot at finishing very well this year.
I really don’t like FSU, lol, just looking at it from the outside and comparing it to some other situations in the past. Which school hired Les Miles? KU or KSt.? That was a disaster too.
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I think Deion is going to need to win at a
Oct 26, 2022, 2:21 PM
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group of 5 school first. His success at Jackson St is very impressive and he has done as much off the field as he has on it. His persona is a bit much but he has a serious tone most of the time. I do feel he is sincere and purpose driven in what he is doing. I've seen all of the tv interviews and watched his shows to tell that he's the real deal...but not sure how it translates over to winning at a P5 school.
What Deion has going against him is that he draws a lot of emotion from people no matter what he does or if you like him or not. The first sign of trouble or a loss, he will get hammered publicly by his critics (pretty much all of TNet) and Deion will eventually go on a rant that could embarrass a university.
I think he'd do well as a P5 coach, but there is no way to know how good (or bad) he will be without seeing it first. As for me, I hope he gets a P5 job.
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Deion to FSU sounds really good for Seminoles
Oct 28, 2022, 2:35 AM
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stuck in the past. But he is winning in his short 3 year career. I think he'd be the best hire of the past 3.
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Re: Deion to FSU sounds really good for Seminoles
Oct 28, 2022, 12:05 PM
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Deion would recruit, talk, be the ,CEO, etc. etc.
He would hire top coaches. Undoubtedly he would raid the NFL for assistants.
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Clembret, we'll let you borrow Momma Bowden's sweater to
Oct 28, 2022, 8:54 AM
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wear. Might be a little stuffy for September games though.
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Bobby's best line about that game.
Oct 28, 2022, 12:07 PM
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He was asked who Ann would be pulling for, her husband or her son.
He replied, "She's going with the credit cards in this one."
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I think there would be a significant number of good players
Oct 28, 2022, 9:13 AM
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who would want to come play for him.
Is your thinking that his success in Jackson is due to him having far superior athletes and that he can't actually coach? Or would it just be too much of a circus for you to stomach?
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I think he's a self promoter.
Oct 28, 2022, 12:10 PM
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He was a self-promoter when he was a player. He proved he was also an outstanding player.
I have seen nothing to convince me he would be a successful coach. A successful coach has to be caring about the success of at least 200 other people, not just the espn headlines about him.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 28, 2022, 10:28 AM
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I’m all for Primetime coming to FSU. The reason being is that I think Norvell has the Noles heading in the right direction. I want them to stay bad/average.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 28, 2022, 10:55 AM
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Norvell looks to have FSU playing better now than in several years, so it would be crazy to not give him at LEAST through next season to see if the trend continues.
Sure, Sanders might be a flashy hire. And likely could lure a bunch of talent out of HS, but still not sure he is ready/able to lead a big time P5 program. GT, or a decent G5 program would be a better fit for now, until he can truly prove himself of deserving better.
I actually liked him a player at FSU/NFL/Braves, but sure soured an those ridiculous AFLAC commercials quickly!
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 28, 2022, 11:57 AM
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Dein would bring FSU to the top. He has a lot in common with Dabo. Deion could bring in the recruits, assistant coaches, and an insane amount of NIL.
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Recruits, assistants, and NIL money.
Oct 28, 2022, 12:11 PM
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So, how's that working out for Jimbo?
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The AFLAC commercials should be disqualifying
Oct 28, 2022, 11:59 AM
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Unbelievable what Saban will do for a buck.
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Re: The AFLAC commercials should be disqualifying
Oct 28, 2022, 12:09 PM
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They are funny. I think Saban does them to help him appear more human. It's the only time you ever see him when he does not look mad at the world.
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Re: Local talk radio today did a couple of segments on...
Oct 28, 2022, 11:59 AM
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Dein would bring FSU to the top. He has a lot in common with Dabo. Deion could bring in the recruits, assistant coaches, and an insane amount of NIL.
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