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Kitchen appliances
Mar 9, 2021, 11:11 AM
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Anyone have any advice, definite buys, horror stories about appliances? Looking at Kitchenaid, but open to all suggestions.
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I prefer anything in Harvest Gold instead of Avocado.***
Mar 9, 2021, 11:15 AM
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Only horror stories I have heard are Samsung stuff
Mar 9, 2021, 11:22 AM
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but no personal experience. LG seems to get good ratings from Consumer Reports. I tried to get an LG fridge back in June last year, and there was a 6 week wait, so I had to go with what was in stock and got a GE.
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Had a bad Samsung washer, well multiple bad ones, but
Mar 9, 2021, 11:24 AM
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that aint what he is axing about. Had a Frigidaire Gallery Convection oven that fried the motherboard(?) less than 3 years into using it, replaced with cheaper version and it seems to be working fine. Tried to replace the board but there was wiring fried as well and that got over my head and into the "Possibly cheaper to replace than repair" category.
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I have had some good luck with Samsung (fridge and w/d)
Mar 9, 2021, 11:31 AM
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but I think it's a crapshoot with different models.
I think NoIntro is correct below - they are all crap (potentially).
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I got a Samsung kitchen suite prolly 3.5 years ago,
Mar 9, 2021, 12:51 PM
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got the extended warranty through Costco. Only issue was the icemaker freezing over, a known Samsung design flub. They sent a guy out under warranty and he replaced the whole unit and motherboard on the back of the fridge (it's a smart'un), no charge. No issues since, so I guess they fixed that design flaw. Dishwasher, microwave, and range (besides not being gas, Obed) have all been pretty flawless. I'm sure all three will break at 5 years and 2 weeks.
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Just buy the most expensive thing you can find.***
Mar 9, 2021, 11:22 AM
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Re: Just buy the most expensive thing you can find.***
Mar 9, 2021, 11:23 AM
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I dig the Wolf range with the red knobs, but I'm doing a cooktop instead of a slide in, and the wolf cook tops don't look as nice.
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Have you looked at Induction range tops?
Mar 9, 2021, 11:25 AM
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Controls temp as good as if not better than gas, does not get hot, easy to clean up.
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Re: Have you looked at Induction range tops?
Mar 9, 2021, 11:26 AM
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The kind of cooking I do is just suited better for gas, and that's the look we're going for. I have seen how fast those induction tops will boil water and holy crapola. I'm so tired of cooking in my crueset and cast iron on a glass top though.
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Yea, I use my cast iron but just am careful not to set it
Mar 9, 2021, 11:28 AM
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down hard. 
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Ever seen or used Induction?
Mar 9, 2021, 11:35 AM
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lots of chefs moving that way just to get the heat out of the kitchen in restaurants.
The only thing I cannot do is use the flame to brown peppers or whatever.
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Yes but gas is still standard and what most home cooks
Mar 9, 2021, 11:42 AM
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prefer. It would be the first thing I'd replace if I were buying a home with an induction top
It would cost me more to replace all of my cookware and I don't have cheap taste in anything
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If you don't have cheap taste in anything
Mar 9, 2021, 11:49 AM
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your cookware is probably good to go. I have All-Clad and cast iron. Only stuff that does not work would be aluminum cheap stuff. I also use a ceramic pan I love.
I would do the opposite btw, get rid of gas and put in induction.
To each his own.
Again, most home cooks have never tried induction, so they think it is similar to the electric glass top range. It ain't even in the same ballpark. And many units cost more than gas.
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Re: ...yet you dated ole so and so.***
Mar 9, 2021, 11:53 AM
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Consumer Reports
Mar 9, 2021, 11:23 AM
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Dishwasher: 1. Bosch, 2. Thermador, 3. KitchenAid (I recommend Bosch)
Fridge (French Door): 1. LG, 2. GE, 3. Samsung/KitchenAid
Range (electric smoothtop): 1. LG, 2. Samsung, 3. GE
Range (electric induction): 1. LG, 2. Frigidaire, 3. Samsung (they only had five in there, I love my GE Profile induction top but it's not reviewed by CR)
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I have 2 Bosch dishwashers - extremely quiet - 38db or
Mar 9, 2021, 1:09 PM
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something like that.
Hate the rack config - seems like it is Euro designed and they don't allow for big honkin' stadium cups and such . . . .
Cleans OK - we use an additive called Brighter Shine and it has helped a ton. Of course we all have huge goiters popping out everywhere but I'm sure it is just coincidence.
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oh, this reminded me
Mar 9, 2021, 1:12 PM
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the kitchen aid dishwasher that goes with the set we have, probably the best I have ever had, its amazing. especially if you have small kids as it has the bottle washers in there too.
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they're all crap.
Mar 9, 2021, 11:25 AM
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poke around and read online reviews, and they're all negative. Kitchenaid is owned by Whirlpool now, I think they're using it as an upscale option. I've liked Whirlpool since I worked for an appliance store in high school.
I posted some recently about a Frigidaire Gallery french door/bottom freezer that lasted me 6 yrs. Last year I realized the back was rusting out due to poor design of the ice maker. Then I had trouble with sensors and a control module. Now I have a Whirlpool, it looks almost the same as a Kitchenaid, except the Kitchenaid had some fake wood trim on the inside shelves and drawers, and soft-close drawers. The Kitchenaid was several hundred dollars more. I hate extended warrantees, but I recommend them for refrigerators.
I have a Kitchenaid dishwasher, it's been great for a few yrs so far. The Frigidaire gas range and microwave I bought at the same time as the crap fridge are doing great too.
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Re: they're all crap.
Mar 9, 2021, 11:28 AM
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Nice. I feel compelled to get the same brand fridge/oven/microwave/dishwasher. The cook top isn't as important I guess and the wine fridge only has a few options for brands for build in ones.
I like frigidaire stuff, but their wall oven has these weird knobs for temp control instead of just entering the temp? Kind of turned off by that
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If you have to have all electric oven/stove, don't get
Mar 9, 2021, 11:29 AM
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glass cooktop.
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Re: If you have to have all electric oven/stove, don't get
Mar 9, 2021, 11:30 AM
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Will be a wall over and gas cooktop over cabinetry
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Buy from Lowe's
Mar 9, 2021, 11:30 AM
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Have them deliver and install.
RH Tig can vouch.
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and when they show up damaged, get 50% off.***
Mar 9, 2021, 11:39 AM
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I can only speak to their laundry appliances, but
Mar 9, 2021, 11:53 AM
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I feel certain the are more than capable of hooking up kitchen appliances incorrectly using the wrong hose every bit as well.
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They all suck
Mar 9, 2021, 11:34 AM
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They won't last. The more tech involved, the more likelihood something is going to fail and require it to get fixed.
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Re: They all suck
Mar 9, 2021, 12:23 PM
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Next time I replace one of those - which is probably 5 years
Mar 9, 2021, 12:28 PM
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I am going with Speed Queen. Simple, rugged machines.
Who needs their washer and dryer connect to the net? LOL.
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Re: Kitchen appliances
Mar 9, 2021, 11:35 AM
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You gotta keep the ice churning in any of these units imo
Mar 9, 2021, 11:38 AM
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if you don't use ice a lot, the unit freezes up. Luckily my wife loves ice. Personally I never use it.
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Re: Most all of is Whirlpool, and rebranded anyway
Mar 9, 2021, 11:39 AM
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All Whirlpool:
Kenmore
Roper
Estate
Kirkland
Kitchenaid
MayTag
JennAir
Amana
Just get what looks good, and priced right.
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As far as dishwashers go, I would suggest you get a wife.
Mar 9, 2021, 12:30 PM
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Think of the $$$ you'll save on electricity.
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Fella I married a millennial woman,
Mar 9, 2021, 12:33 PM
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they don't cook or clean. Their generational skill is online shopping.
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Re: Kitchen appliances
Mar 9, 2021, 12:36 PM
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lots of problems. The worst being the induction top. We are on our 3rd. Pigs attached. Don’t do it. They look amazing, but the upper oven/microwave fritzs all the time too.
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Re: Kitchen appliances
Mar 9, 2021, 12:47 PM
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Dannnnnnng. They look so nice though.
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one thing i will say, Kitchen Aid has repaired
Mar 9, 2021, 12:51 PM
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and replaced for free each time. The induction top, the parts are constantly on backorder, so the major pain is waiting. Finally, last time, they just replaced the whole thing. So they will help you out, but its just a pain.
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Re: one thing i will say, Kitchen Aid has repaired
Mar 9, 2021, 12:52 PM
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I'm going to do a gas cooktop. This house will somehow be the first neighborhood I've bought in that has nat gas.
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I HATE this induction top. Cooks weird, the good pans
Mar 9, 2021, 12:56 PM
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are expensive as F. Boiling water in absolutely zero time is cool, but really how many time do we need boiling water in an instant.
they sold my wife on it because you can boil a pot of water and 5 seconds later put your hand on the burner. She was all like, SO SAFE FOR THE KIDS! All the while the sales dude is smiling ear to ear.
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Re: I HATE this induction top. Cooks weird, the good pans
Mar 9, 2021, 12:57 PM
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Yeah my pots and pans are all heavy AF, I'm so sick of putting them on glass
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LOL. Love mine. It stops cooking immediately. No need to
Mar 9, 2021, 3:15 PM
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move the pan/pot when you turn it off.
I use the same pots/pans I had before, so I don't have the pan issue.
I guess I am the weird one today.
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Nope, I love my induction too. I grew up with a gas
Mar 9, 2021, 3:43 PM
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stove, then electric glass top for most of my adult life, and got an induction top the past few years and it's the ####.
Immediate response just like a gas stove, but better immediate and evenly spread out heat. We had Le Cruesets and All Clads for our cookware already so they were compatible.
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Buy GE, early, often and with cash***
Mar 9, 2021, 12:49 PM
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do NOT buy Samsung kitchen appliances.***
Mar 9, 2021, 1:18 PM
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Re: Kitchen appliances
Mar 9, 2021, 1:37 PM
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I've been a Whirlpool fanboy for years, but not anymore. Replaced all appliances a year ago during a kitchen remodel and within 2 months, the ECB was replaced on the range and light switch for the fridge. I'm now awaiting the second ECG to be replaced on the range in less than a year. Whirlpool will not replace the range and the ECB has been on back order for ~3 weeks or so. They know it's a problem but won't issue a recall, stock ECBs to address the problem quickly nor agree to replace.
I used to install appliances during my high school and college years and Whirlpool was the best of what I saw. Those days have changed. When the Whirlpool-contracted serviceman tells you to get extended warranties on all of your new appliances during a service call, that's damning. #neveragain
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we got the kitchen aid
Mar 9, 2021, 2:17 PM
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dishwasher with the top, 3rd rack and it's pretty sick.
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KitchenAid microwave. Get's an A
Mar 9, 2021, 3:06 PM
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Bosch dish washer. Get's an A
InSinkErator garbage disposal - A
Samsung fridge - C
Samsung washing machine - B (so far)
Samsung dryer - B
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Stay away from Korean made.
Mar 9, 2021, 3:37 PM
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LG, Samsung is hit or miss, mainly miss.
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Sorry, I got nothing. Except to marvel at the horror stories
Mar 9, 2021, 3:40 PM
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of all the new-fangled stuff breaking early and often. Gosh, who didn't see that coming? LOL I just hope all my kitchen appliances keep on chugging, replaced everything about 10 years ago, right before they all came with a HAL9000 built in. I know the ice maker is leaking, Dave... are you sure the firmware upgrade completed properly, Dave?
Read a story recently about a guy whose wife damaged a side mirror on a highend car, I forget the brand/model. Caught it on the garage backing out and broke it off. With all of the built-in sensors and whatnot, total cost to replace was over $4000. A side mirror.
Am I old? I sound old.
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Appliances officially jumped the tech shark when they
Mar 9, 2021, 4:48 PM
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started putting IP addresses on clothes washers and refrigerators.
My last clothes washer had a reservoir where I could pour about 4 or 5 wash loads of detergent in so that I didn't have to add it every time I did laundry. That was a neat option, but I'm sure that in time, it would probably break, and I'd be adding it the old fashioned way. It also had an option to put a wireless wifi connection on it so that it could tell me when it was out of laundry detergent and through some home automation magic could have Amazon order it.
I like tech as much as the next guy, but isn't it just as easy, and a lot less breakable, for me to just check to see if I have laundry detergent, I dunno, when I wash my clothes?
When I moved last Oct, I sold the < 1 year old washer and 10 year old dryer to someone for < half what I paid for the washer to someone off of NextDoor. Apparently, it didn't make the 3 days it took to get to Ohio (yes..someone moved BACK to Ohio) before the washer broke. It had a warranty that I transferred to them, but I have gone exactly 1 month since then that they haven't called or emailed me asking something about the pair. Next time, rather than profit the $375 I sold it for, I think I'll just leave it at the curb for the metal recycling dude to pick up at 4 am on Tuesday, and avoid the long distance washer-dryer help desk calls.
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I was so elated when the lady that bought my
Mar 9, 2021, 10:10 PM
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house in Charleston wanted to keep my old washer and dryer. They worked great but I didn't want to mess with getting them back out of their area and down the stairs.
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Yeah, I'm a techie guy too, but I think that may actually
Mar 9, 2021, 10:46 PM
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cause me to be more leery of technology than most folks. Because I've seen what's behind the curtain. It ain't genius, it ain't foolproof, and people screw up. All the time. ####, most of the time.
My mom bought new appliances in 1966... Avocado Green. When she died in 2003, everything still worked. Stove, oven, fridge, clothes washer & dryer, etc. And the big black rotary dial phone... I think I've posted vids of it ringing, it will still wake the dead and the voice quality is crystal clear. All that chit was built to last.
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I wonder who is patching the 2016 LG dishwasher, or the 2017
Mar 10, 2021, 10:22 AM
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Samsung refrigerator that tells you when you're out of cheese?
Nobody, that's who. Want to know how Skynet becomes self aware? It starts with 80 billion unpatched washers, dishwashers, refrigerators and toasters that are on the internet 24 hours a day waiting for someone in China to implant the next stuxnet on them.
The only advantage to them is that they will all break in less than 10 years, so I figure they do have some self deprecating life cycle built in.
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