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I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 9:54 AM
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that in year 14, our basketball program will be "poised for success". I think we could agree we could define "success" as reaching the Elite 8---or at a minimum, the Sweet 16. I can't find any examples of a coach who, in year 14 of their tenure who hasn't reached the Elite 8, magically do so. Not one. What makes Neff think that Brownell can do this?
I think there is a higher probability that we'll see pigs fly before that happens.
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Honestly...
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Mar 24, 2023, 9:57 AM
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Neff either has his head stuck up his a$$, he is part of the lunatic fringe (i.e., blind to reality, ignorant, and deluded), or some combination of the two.
Just my .02 cents.
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Re: Honestly...
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:02 AM
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Which is not worth .01
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Neff is bought and sold by a leadership that wants to keep
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:31 AM
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Brownell - and they want to keep Brownell regardless his results.
That's exactly right - they don't care what his results are.
We're already 12th in the conference in NCAAT bids since he came on board. Does that make you think that they care?
No, not me either....
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I am a firm believer...
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:51 AM
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that the decision regarding the future of CBB was taken out of the hands of Neff and is being made by the President and members of the CUBOT.
It is abundantly clear that, whoever is making the decision, is determined to retain Brownell regardless his inconsistent and mediocre results.
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:02 AM
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You should try getting a life.
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:03 AM
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Nice of you to chime in, Mrs. Brownlee. Thanks for your worthless 60% pulse input.
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:06 AM
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12 out of 13 seasons ranked outside of the Top 35 final AP poll and absolutely no reason to believe it won't be 13 out of 14.
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:08 AM
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Success or being prepared for success is a continuum. My guess is the following:
Some big donors support CBB so replacing him after a 23 win season would be difficult. Especially true when we are trying to raise money for a new facility from these same donors
Lots of coaching changes this year so the competition would make finding the right coach a problem
We actually have a good nucleus returning so if CBB can find the right guys in the portal we should expect a good season next year
By next year we should have funding commitments in place for the ops center which would show a new coach we are committed to success in basketball
I have no doubt next year would be his last if do not have a really good season
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:10 AM
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But based upon what? Hopes? Dreams? On what basis would a "big donor" (to use your term) be convinced to pony up more $$ for yet another mediocre season? I don't get it.
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:39 AM
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Clemson is losing;
Hunter Tyson 15.3 points
Brevin Galloway 11.2 points
Ben Middlebrooks 3.1 points but ate up a lot of minutes for PJ Hall
I don’t know about returning a good core next year.
These were two of the top scorers of the five starters.
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:13 AM
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Leonard Hamilton (FSU) would be the only shining example I can think of that made the Elite 8 in year 16. Of course most coaches with little to no success would be let go long before years 14-16 though.
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:14 AM
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That would explain why I hadn't found him.......and you are correct: most would have been let go far earlier.
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well, we got the 'crowd favorite' should have gotten in this
Mar 24, 2023, 10:56 AM
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year mantra. Just because we were robbed and didn't really want to be the NIT.....
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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Mar 24, 2023, 10:35 AM
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The fact we kept him around after this years s**t-show to end the season shows we really don't care about basketball all that much.
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Re: I've been searching for some data to substantiate Neff's claim
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I'm still thinking/hoping that Neff considered a change but:
couldn't find the coach he wanted so decide to hold off a year
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decided to hold on a little longer to use the new center to attract a new coach.
I'm sure it's possible that he was told by the board or president that they don't give a #### about basketball and as long as the players aren't getting arrested ignore it so we can concentrate on the things we do care about.
There's a good chance it's indifference.
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