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It has started in NC
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It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 1:27 PM

The Killers concert is requiring vax proof for their September show.

This maybe the start of this in North Carolina.

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

Wait til people start asking for refunds to events...

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What about people who already recovered from the virus?***

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Aug 5, 2021, 1:32 PM



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I have talked to 4 doctors ... all suggested I get


Aug 5, 2021, 2:22 PM

the vaccine even though I recovered from COVID last November. I am 55 years old.

This is for information only and not meant to spark another Vaccine Debate on TNet.

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Re: I have talked to 4 doctors ... all suggested I get


Aug 5, 2021, 2:51 PM

+1 for the disclaimer

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I am anti-disclaimer! Takes the fun out!***


Aug 5, 2021, 3:08 PM



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+1 for sharing the reality of medical advice***


Aug 5, 2021, 3:43 PM [ in reply to Re: I have talked to 4 doctors ... all suggested I get ]



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Maybe you can “peer review” this for us.

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Aug 6, 2021, 4:51 AM

https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210608/No-point-vaccinating-those-whoe28099ve-had-COVID-19-Findings-of-Cleveland-Clinic-study.aspx


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Re: Maybe you can “peer review” this for us.


Aug 6, 2021, 11:33 AM

How about you ask the Cleveland Clinic

https://newsroom.clevelandclinic.org/2021/06/09/cleveland-clinic-statement-on-previous-covid-19-infection-research/


“Cleveland Clinic recommends those who are eligible receive the COVID-19 vaccine.

We recently shared research that provides insight into how the immune system protects the body after a confirmed COVID-19 infection. The study followed Cleveland Clinic caregivers over five months as the vaccination process was beginning. The data showed that the vaccine was extremely effective in preventing COVID-19 infection. In addition, we found that none of the previously infected employees who remained unvaccinated were re-infected over the duration of the study. This information could help guide vaccination efforts should there be a shortage of vaccine supply and in countries where vaccine supply is limited.

This is still a new virus, and more research is needed. It is important to keep in mind that this study was conducted in a population that was younger and healthier than the general population. In addition, we do not know how long the immune system will protect itself against re-infection after COVID-19. It is safe to receive the COVID-19 vaccine even if you have previously tested positive, and we recommend all those who are eligible receive it.”

Keep in mind that just because there is a lack of a reinfection during the course of the study does not mean immunity.

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So they’re waffling too? Just like Fauci.***

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Aug 6, 2021, 12:03 PM



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Re: So they’re waffling too? Just like Fauci.***


Aug 6, 2021, 12:18 PM

No, they are trying to clarify the point of the research so that those that are as ignorant as coots don't go off chasing the wrong item.



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LOL. Okay.

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Aug 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

I just hope no one else gets bit by a bat ;)

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Re: LOL. Okay.


Aug 6, 2021, 10:21 PM

If you get bitten by a bat in the US, you're more likely to get rabies than Covid.

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Re: Maybe you can “peer review” this for us.


Aug 9, 2021, 9:09 AM [ in reply to Re: Maybe you can “peer review” this for us. ]

What is not mentioned in the position statement that IS in the research paper is that a number of Covid infections did occur in people whe had been fully vaccinated but not previously infected whereas NOT A SINGLE CASE of Covid infection was found in those previously infected, vaccinated or not. There were > 52K subjects in this study. Add to this the Israeli study that showed that previously infected vaccine recipients had a stronger immune response to the first vax than did previously uninflected vaccine recipients to the SECOND vax

All this to me makes a compelling case for previously infected persons not gaining any benefit from being vaccinated. I would add to that the caveat that Covid 19 antibodies be present

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Re: I have talked to 4 doctors ... all suggested I get


Aug 5, 2021, 3:14 PM [ in reply to I have talked to 4 doctors ... all suggested I get ]

I would agree with that. Someone that has had it within the last six months is a different story. I had it in January and my doctor told me in May that I should have immunity for about six months. I'm pretty sure I had the Delta variant at the beginning of July after going to Ft Lauderdale. The symptoms were identical to what I had in January so I'm "vaccinated" until January again.

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55 is on the fence for me


Aug 5, 2021, 3:49 PM [ in reply to I have talked to 4 doctors ... all suggested I get ]

I'm 48. Had covid in January.. got the natural vaccine. I have no intention of getting the man made vaccine.

My dad and step mom are almost 70 ...and in poor health. I would hog tie and drag them to the vacine if I was allowed to.

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Re: I have talked to 4 doctors ... all suggested I get


Aug 5, 2021, 11:10 PM [ in reply to I have talked to 4 doctors ... all suggested I get ]

Make it 5!

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Wow! That’s like ALL of the doctors!!!***

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Aug 6, 2021, 4:52 AM



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Re: What about people who already recovered from the virus?***


Aug 5, 2021, 9:21 PM [ in reply to What about people who already recovered from the virus?*** ]

Give them first row seats and back stage passes.

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 1:33 PM

Will they be showing Clemson football highlights or something? Asking cuz ya know….football

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 1:43 PM

That would be good. We love Tiger football.

Heck our NC State may end up being effected.

It maybe to soon for the govt to mess with the UGA game .

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The vaccine is expected to get FDA approval by the end of the month


Aug 5, 2021, 1:38 PM

At such time the dominoes will fall.. every 1 will have legal authority to require vaccinations.

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Better get used to it. It's just a matter of time.


Aug 5, 2021, 1:47 PM

As the number of people who have been vaccinated grows and the variant spreads you're going to see more and more demands for the unvaccinated to be barred.

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It will take 5 hrs to get inside a stadium in NC.***


Aug 5, 2021, 1:53 PM



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Will needle marks work?


Aug 5, 2021, 1:56 PM

asking for a fiend

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Funny ... but not funny ... at the same time.***


Aug 5, 2021, 2:23 PM



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thats what i figure with a vaccine


Aug 5, 2021, 2:02 PM

i dont think there will be full lock downs and shows fully canceled..i do however see vaccine passports and mask mandates at games though depending on state

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Re: thats what i figure with a vaccine


Aug 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

And there in lies full blown Communist / Authoritarian state! Just exchange vaccinate for exterminate in the near future. Just like the military getting ready to have a mandatory vaccine. Only 28 people have died from covid out of 1.5 million military personnel, not counting the ones that retired last year and 50% have already received the vaccine, yet the government wants to force our only protection of this country into taking a unapproved vaccine that is already a year behind the variant just like the flu vaccine. This sleeping nation needs a swift kick in the A$$ an wake up out of the virus hypnosis or we will lose every freedom we hold dear and enjoy.

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im all for freedoms as well


Aug 5, 2021, 3:14 PM

but during a raging pandemic and rising hospitalizations you have to take measures to prevent them from getting overfilled

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Yes! By all means. “Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve” ..


Aug 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

BullSh#t!!

We been here, done this before.

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Okay, so if the vaccine is strongly recommended but not required


Aug 5, 2021, 10:27 PM [ in reply to Re: thats what i figure with a vaccine ]

and hospitals have to ration care/resources, are you comfortable with people who aren’t vaccinated being refused care?

If it’s their right not to get it, and they want responsibility for their actions, why should medical care be assumed?

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Re: Okay, so if the vaccine is strongly recommended but not required


Aug 5, 2021, 10:55 PM

Wow, Sounded like something a physician would ask…. Weird.

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Re: Okay, so if the vaccine is strongly recommended but not required


Aug 6, 2021, 11:34 PM [ in reply to Okay, so if the vaccine is strongly recommended but not required ]

We are going to have empty hospitals. You smoke, no medical care for you. You drink more than you should. Hope it makes you feel good because that is your only medicine now. You went back for seconds at the buffet. You better get to exercising, but golf doesn't count because doctors are going to need to do something with their free time.

I know that the comment was kind of tongue in cheek, but there might actually be a majority of the people screaming "Get Vaccinated!" who are personally responsible for putting themselves in a high risk group.

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

LOL. It's all cosmetic theatre and for show, no one is checking these things or getting denied entry (they aren't even looking at them), it's just so the venue or governor, or whomever can beat there chests and say they care--this was at a huge music festival and heavily liberal/democratic Chicago over the weeknend... LOLOLOLOL:

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1422209731758759939?s=20

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Will biden-obama vaccinate


Aug 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

the illegals before transporting them throughout the southeast and other red states?

Illegals should have vaccine cards and speak English before being accepted in the US.

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That's the hypocrisy of this whole thing.


Aug 5, 2021, 3:03 PM

If they are as concerned about the delta variant as they say, then the borders should be closed with strict vaccine enforcement for anyone coming into the country.

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Oh.. ...there is more hypocrisy than that floating around this issue***


Aug 5, 2021, 3:46 PM



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Re: Will biden-obama vaccinate


Aug 5, 2021, 5:10 PM [ in reply to Will biden-obama vaccinate ]

I was in California within 2 weeks of the first vaccines coming out. What was on the news every day, was the big push to get the migrant workers vaccinated. They were classified as essential workers. My impression (which could be wrong, but I know what I saw on TV) was that the migrant workers were among the very first people to be vaccinated in this country.

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 2:59 PM

OMG it’s the start of complete lockdown in GA!!!!!! No in GA as it is in NC this is a condition that has been established by either the band or it’s promoters not the state.


https://www.wjbf.com/news/concert-coming-to-augusta-requiring-all-attendees-to-be-fully-vaccinated-for-covid/


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It won't be long before there are a lot of falsified


Aug 5, 2021, 3:02 PM

vaccine cards out there.

It wouldn't be hard for people to start printing cards for the non-vaccinated to fill out to show as "proof."

It's going to be a huge cluster.

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Yep. Sign me up.

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Aug 5, 2021, 3:10 PM

I’ll be glad to show it to anyone who wants to see it…along with my photo ID.

(photo ID is real- those are easy for anyone to get)

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Re: It won't be long before there are a lot of falsified


Aug 6, 2021, 11:27 AM [ in reply to It won't be long before there are a lot of falsified ]

I agree there, providing proof for "events" isn't really enforceable. Or at least not enforceable without some serious privacy concerns. It will be a cluster. Our county just reinstated makes in public buildings so, shrug. Its coming because folks don't know statistics and that is why we can't have nice things.

The only other real option would to follow the infection vs vaccination stats for a given locality and make a call. Shut it down or proceed. *Maybe* you could base something off zip-codes (something that is harder to fake on its own) but that is likely the extent.

Ol'Roy Cooper here is a bit of a do-nothing Governor. I think he could be replaced with shrubbery and we would have about the same result, but at least, on every full moon he does something that is the bare minimum so I have no complaints about him.

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has nothing to do with the state of NC


Aug 5, 2021, 3:08 PM

some of you seem desperate for there to be an announcement about Clemson/Georgia

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I think people are assuming the worst


Aug 5, 2021, 3:10 PM

since North Carolina's leadership has proven themselves to be turds many times in the past.

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no sporting event has been limited


Aug 5, 2021, 3:17 PM

in any state so far. NC would not do it unilaterally.

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Re: no sporting event has been limited


Aug 5, 2021, 11:07 PM

Cooper would do it!

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ironic name for a band


Aug 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

WSP requiring something like that for this weekend shows

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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 4:58 PM

UNC "students" say you can get your fake vaccine card the same place you get your fake ID: https://www.wxii12.com/article/university-of-north-carolina-fake-covid-19-vaccine-cards/37214823#


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Aug 5, 2021, 7:54 PM

Good end of summer job....

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 8:15 PM [ in reply to Re: It has started in NC ]

Good for them.

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You support people lying about their vaccine status?


Aug 5, 2021, 10:36 PM

Seriously?

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Well…we’ve been lied to every step of the way.

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Aug 6, 2021, 4:56 AM

Maybe it’s our turn.


I’m gonna say I ate a bat at the farmers market and got the virus.
“Ate a bat.” Remember that one? LOL
Good one, Fauci.

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Re: Well…we’ve been lied to every step of the way.


Aug 6, 2021, 5:08 AM

Great comments and yes, we’ve been lied to enough. I hate the kids have to lie but this forced vaccination crap has to stop. We have to stand up now.

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No one is forcing anyone to get the vaccine.***


Aug 6, 2021, 11:06 AM



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Re: No one is forcing anyone to get the vaccine.***


Aug 6, 2021, 11:47 PM

What is your definition of force? Several employers have required the vaccine as a condition of employment. For private employers that is likely legal, but what about Indiana University? They have implemented a policy to fire any employee that is not vaccinated, and kick any unvaccinated student out of school.

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Wow.***


Aug 6, 2021, 11:06 AM [ in reply to Well…we’ve been lied to every step of the way. ]



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Re: Wow.***


Aug 6, 2021, 11:13 AM

So why would they need a vaccine card?

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Re: Wow.***


Aug 6, 2021, 11:17 AM

Wait , you’re going to say they’re not forced to take the vaccine but only forced to go through an insane amount of testing. So,, yes they’re not “forced” if they want to endure that crap. But I’m sure to them it feels like forcing.

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 9:36 PM

Considering you have 2 states who voted Republican in the Presidential election playing in the game, doubt a vaccine card would work. Of course, looking at the numbers, seems more blacks are refusing the vaccine than whites. So maybe it’s a liberal problem? Who knows?

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 7, 2021, 6:32 PM

I have to be amused at the idea that "forced vaccines" are something new or violate our rights. I have read newspaper articles from 1902 about my great-grandfather. He was a physician and also the head of the county health department. He told everybody in the county either to get vaccinated or be thrown in jail. He had a few people thrown in jail, and after two or three days, all decided to get vaccinated. LOL

There is also a picture in the local newspaper of him standing in front of a house with a shotgun in his arms. He was personally ensuring that people in the house with smallpox were quarantined.

How things have changed, and not so much for the better. Growing up in the fifties, I had to have an International Certification of Vaccination for travel to foreign countries (we traveled a lot). Because we did that, a lot of people growing up today hardly know about diseases like smallpox and polio and how devastating they could be.

It's a shame this whole thing has been politicized the way it has (by both parties).

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 5, 2021, 10:52 PM

That’s a good band. Seriously.

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 7, 2021, 6:28 PM

+1

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Re: It has started in NC


Aug 7, 2021, 9:55 PM

We went from "stay inside for 2 weeks" to "stick this in your body so that you can do stuff" in a year.

Where will we be next year?

I'm all for people getting the vax if they want/need to. But they can shove this mandate #### up their collective arses.

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