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Orange Blooded [3034]
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Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 9:43 PM
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The same Cade that we had to take out to keep La.Tech from coming back? DJ not being very good doesn't mean Cade is ready.
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 9:45 PM
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Why has our coaching staff failed to develop two 5 star QBs in a row?
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 9:53 PM
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I think more 5* QBs are busts than actually play to that level. It's a bunch of goobers giving out stars after all.
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Re: 5* busts that come to mind
Nov 27, 2022, 11:03 PM
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Hunter Johnson - 5* bust (sounds like a good guy)
Spencer Rattler - 5* bust and head case at Oklahoma (throws a good ball but makes very bad decisions). Had an up and down season with S.Carolina.
JT Daniels - 5* bust at USC. Transferred to UGA and was not much good in Athens. OK now at W.VA. Maybe if Daniels stays in college for a 6th (Covid) year, then he'll end up better than DJU.
Brock Vandagriff - 5* at UGA, spent 2021 and 2022 without seeing much action. Bust? Maybe not yet, but Vandagriff isn't even UGAs primary backup behind Stetson Bennett.
Quinn Ewers - 5* who didn't work out at OH State, transferred to Texas and led the 'Horns to low-scoring losses against Alabama, OK State, and TCU. Bust? Again, maybe not yet, but he's not as good as DJU.
5* busts are not uncommon.
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Did you just say Quinn Ewers is not as good as DJ?
Nov 27, 2022, 11:20 PM
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Lol
Ok
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I don’t think the highly paid coaching staff blindly follows recruiting ranking “goobers”
Nov 27, 2022, 11:17 PM
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Our staff chose these 5* players. So yea, misses are on them. Next excuse.
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 28, 2022, 8:17 AM
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I think the guy we offered before Cade is third string at Bama and behind another freshman. Bama also has 2 top 10 type guys committed for this year. They seem to stack them on top of one another and see what shakes out.
For us, only giving out a few offers worked famously with Watson and Lawrence. That strategy sure does leave a lot less room for error though.
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 28, 2022, 9:40 AM
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It is a bit early to claim that we have not properly developed Cade - the kid is still a freshman.
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he was sure ready when he led us to a win over cuse***
Nov 27, 2022, 9:47 PM
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Re: he was sure ready when he led us to a win over cuse***
Nov 27, 2022, 10:01 PM
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He was 2-of-4 for 19 yards and rushed six times for 15 yards against Syracuse. I even think Syracuse dropped any easy interception. I'm not handing the keys over with that type of performance.
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Re: he was sure ready when he led us to a win over cuse***
Nov 27, 2022, 10:23 PM
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He was 2-of-4 for 19 yards and rushed six times for 15 yards against Syracuse. I even think Syracuse dropped any easy interception. I'm not handing the keys over with that type of performance.
2-of-4 > 8-of-29 any day of the week
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Re: he was sure ready when he led us to a win over cuse***
Nov 27, 2022, 11:13 PM
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If your argument is for running Shipley and Mafah more... I agree
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Lot o points [155610]
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Was it one or two handoff fumbles DJ had in that game,
Nov 27, 2022, 11:22 PM
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you know, the skill you are trying to minimize with Cade. On a zone read, Cade doesn't look like an old lady trying to keep someone from stealing her purse when meshed with the RB like DJ does.
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Perfect!
Nov 28, 2022, 10:51 AM
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Those minimizing Cade's performances don't seem to realize this foundational issue. If we were just going to run it anyway, why pull DJ? Obed nailed it with a simile that made me chuckle.
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I can't believe y'all can watch No. 5
Nov 27, 2022, 11:46 PM
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And still think he can play. He's been the same player for two years. Every game looks the same. His career moment came at Notre Dame his freshman year. We all wonder where that player went. He was seen in South Bend and never seen again. Is he so fragile that getting beat up by Georgia destroyed his career? Two losses this year he was a no show. People want to blame OL, WR, blah, blah, blah. Have you seen him lock in on one receiver? Have you seen his footwork? Have you seen his inability to escape pressure? Most of his passes look like throw aways. Throws a nice fastball/knuckleball. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Nice guy from a nice family but a below average quarterback. Way below average. I do not understand why the staff does not go up tempo all the time. The only time DJ looks as if he's got it together is when the offense plays fast. He's not good in the standing-around-staring-at-the-sideline offense.
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Cade was in at QB when we beat Syracuse...
Nov 28, 2022, 10:55 AM
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and yes I think he may have provided a bit of a spark. But to act like he single handedly lead us to victory is ridiculous. If Shipley does have that 50 yard TD run, I don't think we win.
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also watching the past two years
Nov 27, 2022, 9:48 PM
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dj isnt ready either....its more about id rather lose to unc and the bowl with cade starting getting much needed experience and reps vs winning by the skin of our teeth or losing with dj who will never get better as a qb
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Re: also watching the past two years
Nov 28, 2022, 9:42 AM
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Tell that to the rest of the team - and see how fast you lose the lockeroom.
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 9:51 PM
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Are you forgetting the Syracuse game? I would agree he has not looked great… But he is also a true freshman. This is DJs third year
Look…I’m not a replace DJ for Cade guy. But after DJ hurt his hip, it became painfully obvious that he could not throw nearly as well as he could before the injury. I actually thought it was a disservice to DJ to leave him out there like that…. especially when you choose to get away from the run and start throwing the ball
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 9:55 PM
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He was bad before that. He and the WRs were terrible the entire game. I think these read routes may be the wrong direction.
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It reminded me of our game at Syracuse when Kelly Bryant was our QB.
Nov 27, 2022, 9:56 PM
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He was clearly hobbled and couldn’t even walk without limping, yet our coaches still felt he was better than Zerrick Cooper or Hunter Johnson.
It wasn’t fair to Kelly (who subsequently left the game after getting concussed) or the rest of our team.
It was also a commentary on how poorly developed our QBs were. Not much has changed, has it?
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 10:14 PM
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The DJ experiment shouldn't continue past this season. But if the goal is to win the game in front of you. He's the best option we have.
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 9:52 PM
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After 8-29 28% completion percentage 99 yards 1 TD and 1 INT, this isn't a good argument anymore. Anything is better than that.
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 10:19 PM
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you are ridiculous, if johnson, klubnik, wiles and helms are ALL no better than DJ, then ALL of our recruiters and coaches need to be fired - 27% TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT. Dismal.
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That’s what horrible coaching hires will do for you.***
Nov 27, 2022, 11:18 PM
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 10:21 PM
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dude had 13 yards passing the entire second half and you somehow believe he is the best yesterday in what dabo himself was a "very deep" QB room? lmao
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 27, 2022, 11:31 PM
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I once heard we should start Taisun Phommachanh over DJ because he couldn't be any worse too. The DJ experiment shouldn't continue next season. It's just stupid to think a young inexperienced QB with no receivers couldn't be worse at this moment.
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He can't miss receivers any worse than DJ, and you're
Nov 27, 2022, 11:35 PM
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ignoring the fact that Cade could run round-trip from the WEZ to Littlejohn and back before DJ had even gotten to Littlejohn. If Street is determined to run the QB as much as he does, maybe get the guy who actually can run, and makes the correct call on zone reads more often than not.
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Re: Is this Cade that must start so badly
Nov 28, 2022, 7:06 AM
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I would rather lose a couple more games and get him ready for next year. DJ is a road to nowhere.
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