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Is Caldwell safe now
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Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 12:28 PM

?

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 12:38 PM

No

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 12:44 PM

yep I'm sure you know

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Safe from what, COVID?***


Jan 3, 2021, 12:38 PM



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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 12:41 PM

Probably so, the OL issues have been there, but for how long I’m not sure. I do know a good qb who can get the ball out quick will mask most of the issues with lesser competition. However, once we play elite talent those decencies show.

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I think it will also show up in a big way next year with


Jan 3, 2021, 12:46 PM

DJ, as great as I think he'll be, developing, and no ETN. Line has to improve immensely next year.

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 12:47 PM [ in reply to Re: Is Caldwell safe now ]

Wonder if Caldwell or Dabo recruited the young stud.

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 1:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Is Caldwell safe now ]

My son and I had this same conversation. We have been complaining about the line since before Watson.

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I kinda hope not


Jan 3, 2021, 12:54 PM

I'd like to see our top OL recruits not just rely on their talent, but actually improve from year to year and make it to the NFL.

Is this not on Caldwell?

"From talking to scouts around the league, you hear a similar story as to why Mitch Hyatt went undrafted. Hyatt was just as good as a freshman as he was during his senior season. Scouts didn't see him improve from year to year and that turned a lot of them off."

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/how-does-ot-mitch-hyatt-make-this-roster

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I think Carman is another example of this. He seemef


Jan 3, 2021, 12:59 PM

to really regress this year.

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Re: I think Carman is another example of this. He seemef


Jan 3, 2021, 1:51 PM

Bad coaching in the O Line and defensive backfield maybe...

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I would think so.


Jan 3, 2021, 2:06 PM

*

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If Hyatt isn't an indictment, I don't know what is***


Jan 3, 2021, 2:53 PM [ in reply to I kinda hope not ]



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Re: If Hyatt isn't an indictment, I don't know what is***


Jan 3, 2021, 2:58 PM

5-star to now nearly undraftable Jackson Carman?

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Kind of like Hunter Renfrow.


Jan 3, 2021, 3:23 PM [ in reply to I kinda hope not ]

Rec Yds Avg TD
2015 Clemson ACC FR WR 13 33 492 14.9 5
2016 Clemson ACC SO WR 11 44 495 11.3 6
2017 Clemson ACC JR WR 14 60 602 10.0 3
2018 Clemson ACC SR WR 15 49 544 11.1 1
Career Clemson 53 186 2,133 11.5 15

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No, completely different...Hunter was saddled with Kelly


Jan 3, 2021, 3:41 PM

Bryant at QB, that's why HIS numbers dipped...Mitch just never improved

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That is incorrect. Hunter finished with Trevor Lawrence


Jan 3, 2021, 4:14 PM

and a national championship. His numbers were only up 10% from his freshman year to his senior year. His best year, unsurprisingly given Bryant's limitations throwing the ball down the field, was his junior year when Bryant was the QB.

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His best year was the one where he averaged the lowest


Jan 3, 2021, 4:23 PM

YPC of his career? OK...

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Using that metric, his freshman year was his best.


Jan 3, 2021, 4:50 PM

Thanks.

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I don't have a dog in this fight


Jan 4, 2021, 11:38 AM

I think Renfrow, despite playing QB in HS, came in very polished as a slot receiver. He was an excellent route runner (an area WRs typically improve over their years in college) on day 1 and of course had amazing hands as well. He was already near his ceiling as a player his FR year and his ceiling was largely set by his physical limitations.

I think the main reason his YPC was higher his FR year is due to the absence of Mike Williams after the neck injury. We used him down the field more in 2015 than any other season because we had to. In 2016 we had Williams back on the outside, in 2017 Bryant couldn't throw down field so it was paramount to have Renfrow underneath, and in 2018 we had Higgins and Ross.

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Trevor didn't start the whole season guy, he got about a


Jan 3, 2021, 9:04 PM [ in reply to That is incorrect. Hunter finished with Trevor Lawrence ]

half a season with Freshman Trevor

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So Hunter was NFL ready as a freshman, Hyatt not***


Jan 12, 2023, 6:29 AM [ in reply to That is incorrect. Hunter finished with Trevor Lawrence ]



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I think you can make a pretty strong argument that Renfrow


Jan 4, 2021, 11:40 AM

was about as good his FR year as he is right now.

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Re: I kinda hope not


Jan 3, 2021, 9:01 PM [ in reply to I kinda hope not ]

Sometimes a really gifted athlete rocks it in high school - man among boys. But then, when he gets to college he doesn't have the drive or the toughness to really improve as a man among men.

Caldwell might have some responsibility here, but it might be on Mitch.

I WOULD like to see our O_Line become a little nastier and take pride in manhandling opponents.

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Re: I kinda hope not


Jan 3, 2021, 9:07 PM [ in reply to I kinda hope not ]

Hyatt was a top recruit, Carman THE top guy at position by some rankings. Bockhorst was highly rated if I recall. So what is the commonality? They didnt gst that much better by year 3/4. We have guys all over the league at every position except O Line. Am I the only one who thinks that odd?

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Re: I kinda hope not


Jan 3, 2021, 10:45 PM

Nope, you're not the only one.

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Re: I kinda hope not


Jan 3, 2021, 11:04 PM [ in reply to Re: I kinda hope not ]

I don't get it either.

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Re: I kinda hope not


Jan 3, 2021, 11:47 PM [ in reply to Re: I kinda hope not ]

I’m with you. I’ve been saying this for some time now.

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 1:46 PM

Perhaps Clemson is relying too much on the skill players. The speedy wide outs and great runners get you to the dance, but it's the hogs that help you win it. What a crazy image....dancing hogs.

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 1:51 PM



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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 1:59 PM

Yes!!!!! This is what we need to win another Natty!!!!!!!! The opposing defensive players will be laughing so hard they won't be able to stop our guys.

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 12, 2023, 7:43 AM [ in reply to Re: Is Caldwell safe now ]

like the attached ??

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 2:10 PM

I sure hope not. But based on the product Caldwell has put on the field over the last 5 years, he's been a "bust" as a coach.

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 2:26 PM

We had a great season and Caldwell is a proven winner and good coach. We have some good ones coming back and have recruited good ones for this year. Why would Dabo change something that has worked. Robbie may be looking to retire soon, but he is more than qualified and one of Dabo's best hires a few years ago. The staf is outstanding. Look at the recruits here and the ones coming in. Do we want to start doing like Carolina and Auburn and start blaming coaches. Players have to play also. Our DBs were so, so and our receivers were hurt so we lacked depth there. However, we were the ACC Champs. Alabama didn't even make the final 4 last year. We will be back.

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 3, 2021, 2:40 PM

"Best is the standard".

Caldwell has created one draft pick in the top 3 rounds over the last 10 years. Think about that.
And do we want to start blaming coaches? I don't know, maybe. Dabo occasionally blames coaches. Ask Kevin Steele about that.

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When the best RB in school history can't rush for a 1000 yds


Jan 3, 2021, 3:25 PM

The answer should be NO!!!

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He wasn't healthy most of the year, but our OL sucked open


Jan 3, 2021, 3:51 PM

### too

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just got 5*OT***


Jan 3, 2021, 8:59 PM



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Re: just got 5*OT***


Jan 3, 2021, 9:03 PM

I just wonder if will be the one coaching him. Ohio State couldn't sniff the QB for Indiana or North Western, and ETN couldn't get a running lane most of the season....just wonder if it's time for some new blood.

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Re: Is Caldwell safe now


Jan 4, 2021, 12:00 PM

Caldwell isn't going anywhere unless he retires or gets a better job. Not saying he would or could just saying he isn't going anywhere. For me I think the o-line lacks killer instinct. I want guys that drive dudes into the ground after the whistle. I just think it's the type of guy that is recruited by Clemson or attracted by Clemson. Most of these young men are so well rounded and humble young men that pile driving a dude into the ground just isn't their mindset. Maybe I'm wrong but that is just my opinion. When they face a d-line that has those killer instincts they tend to not do very well. In the ACC Clemson has that reputation of being the big dog and their is kind of an aurora around that. You can tell when Clemson plays an ACC team that doesn't care Clemson is Clemson. Those are usually the teams that give them fits. Well teams like Bama and Ohio State carry that same aurora around them so you need that extra bit when playing those teams and for whatever reason sometimes Clemson doesn't come in with "I'm going to rip your head off and #### down your neck" attitude. Who knows if they'll ever be that because Dabo has built this program on not being that. The underdog card only works when you're the underdog and Clemson is no longer an underdog, they're expected to be their and perform.

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honestly i don't think his coaching is suspect if anything


Jan 4, 2021, 12:37 PM

it may be recruiting that could be more consistent there. I'm sure he's had a token high spot recruit here and there but i think these younger kids probably gravitate more to a high energy guy that an old timer. I mean, i'd prefer the old timer but i'm 40 something and am not impressionable anymore.

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