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Big Ten and SEC Only Playoffs Not Out of the Question
Jul 4, 2022, 1:32 PM
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I’ve been reading a lot of conference expansion news and rumors. I think the SEC and Big Ten will stop at 16 teams, unless Notre Dame joins the Big Ten. If Notre Dame joins the Big Ten, Stanford will also join to keep that rivalry intact. If the Big Ten adds Notre Dame and Stanford, look for the SEC to go after Oklahoma State and Baylor from the Big 12. The Oklahoma State football and baseball programs are good. The Baylor football and basketball programs are good. Per the Atlantic, unless the ACC grant of rights can be broken, ACC schools are worthless to another conference. The Atlantic examined conference grant of rights and concluded it would be pretty difficult to break the grant of rights deal. With the current or added expansion, the Big Ten will join the SEC in trying to expand the College Football Playoffs to 8 teams in 2025. The new 8 team playoff will not have automatic conference champion qualifiers since the Power 5 is now the Power 2. After several years at the huge money discrepancy, making the playoff for the ACC, Big 12 and Pac 12 will be comparable to the Group of 5 making the 4 team playoffs. Since Greg Sankey is pissed at Jim Philips and the ACC for quashing the original playoff plan, the Big Ten and SEC may have their own playoff. A Big Ten and SEC only playoff will force Notre Dame to join the Big Ten.
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Re: Big Ten and SEC Only Playoffs Not Out of the Question
Jul 4, 2022, 1:38 PM
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The fact that you put any stock into anything any writer from the Atlantic says just proves how clueless you are, go find another message board troll.
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Re: Big Ten and SEC Only Playoffs Not Out of the Question
Jul 4, 2022, 1:46 PM
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He is right that we will eventually see a playoff between the SEC and the B1G,only, with those two entities keeping all of the massive playoff monies. The money involved will force Notre Dame into the B1G. I cannot see Baylor or Okie State getting into the SEC. They are not worth $100-$120 million each per season value to any conference. Anyone or any conference not a part of those two super conferences will have to piece together whatever they can but will be light years behind in money.
See what I think about this with my post here "Some Cannot See The Forest".
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Re: Big Ten and SEC Only Playoffs Not Out of the Question
Jul 4, 2022, 2:13 PM
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They won’t while other power 5 programs are floating around, the name of the game has always been access, if half the teams are not even eligible it, it won’t happen and if they have their own playoff it won’t be an official national champion, you are basically a league champ. I don’t think those two conferences would sign up for that either, they want the title of being a champion. The NCAA is likely in for a major restructuring over the next few years, but it’s not as clear cut as has been posted here by some other fans. The NCAA has an obligation to create an equal and fair model to all its eligible members. That means until they figure out what to do with the Virginia’s, Wake Forest, Arizona’s, etc. what you are alluding to won’t happen.
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A big 10 - sec playoff only with 16 team conferences
Jul 4, 2022, 1:59 PM
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Would be the equivalent of playing for the right to go to the Sugar Bowl as we are back to mythical National champions.
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Re: A big 10 - sec playoff only with 16 team conferences
Jul 4, 2022, 2:09 PM
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Don't forget ..... money trumps everything. If expansion stopped right now most of the relevant teams are already in one of those two conferences already. Why would you expand the playoff for the benefit of only five or six teams (Oregon on the West Coast, Notre Dame (which will eventually have to join) and Clemson. Is anyone else relevant? Maybe in the future FSU? See what I mean? There's too much money involved for the relevant teams to water down the payday for someone that doesn't take football so seriously or is in demand by the networks. What do you think?
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If you honestly think...
Jul 4, 2022, 4:33 PM
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The SEC would add Baylor and OK State under any circumstances, you have no idea about college sports.
NOBODY wants OK State. Once they were ditched by OU, their value went to zero.
As an athletic program, Baylor is barely worth a dime to a conference. I say that as one who has lived in Texas for the past 36 years. Right now, their football and basketball programs have two outstanding coaches who are punching far above their weight class. Aranda almost certainly won't be around for long though. While Scott Drew is great and loves Waco, I think he'll move on within a couple of years because it will become impossible for him to continue recruiting well.
The SEC will target Clemson, UNC, FSU and Miami, probably in that order. (Maybe you could switch FSU before UNC). OK State and Baylor will be left out in the cold.
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Re: If you honestly think...
Jul 4, 2022, 5:58 PM
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Disagree. I think Clemson brings a LOT more to the Big 10 than to the SEC. The example they set by expanding to the west coast demonstrates their hope to be a national conference. The SEC already dominates the south, with strong contribution from South Carolina. We have very little to add to their revenue stream.
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You missed my point completely
Jul 5, 2022, 12:38 AM
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I was only pointing out the OP's fallacy that the SEC would ever target OK State and Baylor. Clemson and others would be higher on their list. That is all I said.
Regarding where Clemson should go, I also prefer the B1G over the SEC and have made that point in several threads.
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