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Legend [16058]
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For those trying to blame DJ....
Sep 26, 2021, 9:14 AM
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This is the same guy that brought Clemson back from our largest home deficit in history for a win against BC. He had more offensive yards than any other QB in HISTORY at Notre Dame Stadium.
Just WATCH the way he can play. Give it two minutes. The guy is accurate, calm in the pocket, and has a rocket for an arm. He's throwing 50 yard bombs on a dime 1 minute into the ND game. Did you guys watch him play at all last year?
We definitely have issues on offense but DJ's talent level is not one of him. You don't just forget how to play after one season. The reason he is playing is because he is the best QB on our team (Likely by a large margin). Our OLine is a major issue. Our offense has been called "simple" and "easy to defend against" multiple times by multiple football experts. Lets start there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NYTg2AlSoI
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Re: For those trying to blame DJ....
Sep 26, 2021, 9:16 AM
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Yes. We watched him play last year. AND so did every coach of opposing teams,
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Re: For those trying to blame DJ....
Sep 26, 2021, 9:17 AM
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The roll out throw to Ngata is the play we needs to get a first down yesterday in OT. ???????
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Re: For those trying to blame DJ....
Sep 26, 2021, 9:17 AM
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With what you said, have we seen any of that this year from him?
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DJ is part of the problem...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:18 AM
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He can't hit the broad side of barn . He throws a 95mph fastball to receivers 5 yards away . He missed Shipley 5 yards away when he was open across the middle for a big first down and more.
DJ needs benching for a game and lets see what the back ups can do .
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Legend [16058]
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The team and coaches know what the backups can do...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:20 AM
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They see it everyday in practice. Just cause you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't common knowledge.
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Well, when will practice translate to the field of play?
Sep 26, 2021, 9:23 AM
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practice. LOL
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Legend [16058]
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Laugh if you want but you obviously never played...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:26 AM
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Great teams are built off of the work that happens on the days other than gameday (Mostly in practice and the wight room). If you believe otherwise, you don't have a clue.
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Re: Laugh if you want but you obviously never played...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:27 AM
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missed the point, didn't you.
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Re: Well, when will practice translate to the field of play?
Sep 26, 2021, 9:37 AM
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I'll use an analogy: I can hit perfect shots on the golf practice range, but taking it to actually playing is a different story. Taking the game from practice to live action is not always easy.
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I'm not disagreeing but the point of the post was to say...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:47 AM
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We have seen him in live action. Seriously, take 2 minutes of your day and watch the video I posted in the original post. In live action he's been phenomenal.
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It's hard to know how someone will play until you play them.
Sep 26, 2021, 9:26 AM
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Some practice like Tarzan and play like Jane. Some practice like Jane and play like Tarzan.
There's only 1 way to find out who plays like Tarzan.
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Re: It's hard to know how someone will play until you play them.
Sep 26, 2021, 9:29 AM
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wasted keyboard time - He believes being the bench rest king is all that matters
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If they aren't as good? More losses?***
Sep 26, 2021, 9:56 AM
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Re: If they aren't as good? More losses?***
Sep 26, 2021, 10:07 AM
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Do you think this team, as is, is going to win out this season?
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Re: If they aren't as good? More losses?***
Sep 26, 2021, 10:31 AM
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How bad is the backup to not get a look on game day? DJ has been nothing short of terrible on game day and that is all that matters. The biggest motivation in sports is the bench and DJ needs to see it.
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Simple things for the coaches to correct
Sep 26, 2021, 9:49 AM
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It’s almost like he doesn’t even know the plays
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Last year was just that LAST YEAR.
Sep 26, 2021, 9:19 AM
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No
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Legend [16058]
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So DJ used to be all-world and now he's turned into a scrub?
Sep 26, 2021, 9:21 AM
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People don't just "get bad" at something they are great at.
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Apparently so… stranger things have happened
Sep 26, 2021, 9:27 AM
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John Rocker was a phenomenal pitcher… but he fell apart in one year and never could get the magic back. It is in his head. Somewhere between then and now, something has gotten into DJs head and it is affecting his playing ability big time!
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Legend [16058]
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That's fair...I think what's effecting DJ is the OLine...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:32 AM
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They just are not very good and we've seen what that can do to even VERY talented QBs at FSU.
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Re: That's fair...I think what's effecting DJ is the OLine...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:39 AM
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so, it's not DJ? The oloine is making him stare down receivers. Making him overthrow passes. Making him Under throw, or throw wide. Making him stand in the pocket forever? Well, hack, let's get a new oline then.
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If only it was that easy. Ultimately, this falls on the...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:43 AM
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coaches. How has he not been coached not to stare down receivers? Or hold on to the ball too long? Every QB misses passes. TLaw and Watson missed plenty of passes. The 5 yard "touch pass" to Shipley was rough to watch because it likely would have gone for 10-15 yards.
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Re: If only it was that easy. Ultimately, this falls on the...
Sep 26, 2021, 10:12 AM
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Exactly… the coaches are not drilling the QB as thoroughly as he needs to be drilled. He needs developmental help! Get it to him please! Staring receivers and holding the ball way too long ate fundamental mistakes that can be coached out of a person.
COACHING is the very first problem here. And hey, if he can show signs of learning, I don’t care how great of an arm he has, he doesn’t need the keys to the car. PERIOD!
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I’m not putting it all on DJ, the line is in there too, but
Sep 26, 2021, 9:54 AM
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Coaching is failing them all. Gotta be honest when they are not learning something or not applying it… coddling them won’t improve them. And nothing sux worse than playing like #### in front of god and everybody if you take pride in your sport or task.
This is why I harp on the coaches. You know, sitting a player for a series is not the end of the world. Some O linemen need it too. Some receivers too. Let some other RBs get in the mix. See who responds with live bullets the best. Hell, see what Will Taylor does at QB.
At this point throw the kitchen sink at this to see what works! Continuing as is is NOT the answer. Hell, run wildcat O scheme? Triple option?
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
And get some outside analysts in here to create a constructive, critical sounding board. Hell, call me… I could even help some, just to tell them the stuff that I am sure they don’t want to hear or think about. You gotta see it or hear it to fix it!
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Absolutely AGREE we need to try some different plays...
Sep 26, 2021, 9:58 AM
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We are FAR too predictable. When's the last time we tried a flee-flicker?
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Re: Absolutely AGREE we need to try some different plays...
Sep 26, 2021, 10:01 AM
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A reverse sweep? Direct snap to RB and pitch out to DJ? I would cut my left nut off to see a TE pass completion over the middle!
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Re: Lol.. that dude was insane
Sep 26, 2021, 10:14 AM
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I sure hope so… my point is sometimes you need a sports psychologist on staff for precisely these situations.
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We have sports psychologists,
Sep 26, 2021, 10:37 AM
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We have since Bowden was here.
I don’t think we’re doing enough to put the guy into position to be successful
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People are making way too much of that game tbh***
Sep 26, 2021, 9:27 AM
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How so? I’m curious…??***
Sep 26, 2021, 10:15 AM
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Re: For those trying to blame DJ....
Sep 26, 2021, 9:29 AM
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“Give it two minutes”?
I do believe you’re right - unfortunately that’s just an unreasonable amount of time back there in the pocket.
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No matter the QB they would be lucky to have two seconds.***
Sep 26, 2021, 9:48 AM
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Re: No matter the QB they would be lucky to have two seconds.***
Sep 26, 2021, 9:58 AM
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There were many times where DJ had 3 seconds and he held the ball too long or waited too long to decide to use his feet. He was being a statue way too many times. Then his throws were 50/50 on target. Then the receivers don’t catch them when catchable.
Just so mortally frustrating to watch. And zero running lanes by the O line. Even Scar doesn’t look this bad on O. ????
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The OL is supposed to provide 6 seconds
Sep 26, 2021, 10:11 AM
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For the QB.
We have zero quick game to get the ball out before 3 seconds.
It’s literally all we should be running. No bunch package, not many routes. We’re not going to have a Trevor Lawrence every year. We need something a human being can execute.
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His decision making is too slow after the snap and he stared
Sep 26, 2021, 10:08 AM
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Down his receivers too much. You gotta know where you are going with the ball 1st, 2nd and then run for some yards or toss it away. All in 3 seconds max! Sometimes you can buy another second or two by rolling out, but don’t bank on it.
It is like the coaches have not instilled the timer in his head. He needs a greater sense of urgency after snap. He is a little too calm if you ask me. Like he is vacant or something. They need to drill him on making faster decisions out there. I know there are drills to facilitate and simulate this in practice. Get those going quick and in a hurry. TODAY if not sooner!
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The blame rests squarely on the coaches who are heavily involved in our offense.
Sep 26, 2021, 10:13 AM
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Namely Streeter, Elliott, and Dabo.
DJ’s talent is evident. He isn’t a Deshaun or Trevor, but he is still a very good QB who has the tools to be successful. He also has plenty of talent around him at RB and WR.
It’s a shame that his success last year hasn’t carried over to this year. Either he forgot how to be a QB since last year, or last year was a fluke. Given his 5 star status in high school and his performance in a huge game at Notre Dame, I don’t think last year was a fluke.
I do think the mental component for him is an issue right now. Maybe it’s the pressure of being the starter. Maybe it’s the offensive line not playing well. Maybe it’s receivers running the wrong routes or not catching the ball. Maybe it’s NIL stuff. Or maybe it’s personal stuff with his family. Either way, the coaches’ job is to settle him down and scheme so that he can be successful. I haven’t seen any of that through the first four games.
If he isn’t as talented as he was billed, and we don’t have anyone better, then that is on the coaches for not recruiting or developing better.
There is no excuse for an elite program to be struggling like this on offense. Not with the supposed talent on our roster and coaching staff.
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Re: The blame rests squarely on the coaches who are heavily involved in our offense.
Sep 26, 2021, 10:22 AM
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Yup. Coaches should be teaching him to not stare down receivers and to not sit in the pocket too long and to have a timer going in his head at snap.
And the play calling is hot dew dew. Why not have a QB fake run with a jump pass in middle of field? Set it up a couple of plays before and run it!
Need to put in some backup olinemen in a game and see how they react in live situations.
So all criticism is on the multimillion $ coaching staff. Will they respond? Can they respond or have they gone soft too?
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DJ is the root of our offensive struggles…
Sep 26, 2021, 10:30 AM
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He’s inaccurate and is too slow in his decision making. Have you noticed the players reactions every time he just folds up and takes a sack or misses a throw? His teammates have lost confidence in him.
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Re: For those trying to blame DJ....
Sep 26, 2021, 10:40 AM
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The evidence clearly shows DJ *can* forget how to play. No one can argue how great he looked last year.
We have the same coaches as we had last year. New O-line, but the strategy and playbook was not thrown out between last year and this year.
He is not seeing the field for whatever reason. Maybe the play calling has changed 180 degrees from last year, but I doubt it. We have elite receivers that have to be more open than it seems.
DJ has something in his head. Saw it here his parents got divorced over the summer. Maybe he is in a bad place.
The play where he went into the fetal position well before a DL got to him is very telling.
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