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Aug 4, 2022, 2:05 PM

 
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league average? anonymous? winning nattys?


Aug 4, 2022, 2:10 PM

I call major BS. No way whoever this is, is anonymous. League average at RB? gimme a break. And what HC uses the phrase winnings nattys?

Me thinks that goon doeren is riding a high horse after last year.

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Re: league average? anonymous? winning nattys?


Aug 4, 2022, 2:26 PM

WOE is me. Clemson is just an average team again . Just when I thought we were pretty good. Hope Dabo can find another position somewhere. I always kind of liked him. On the bright side, I will not have to get up early and make that 400 mile round trip every home game. With the price of gas that will save several hundred dollars. It will be interesting to see where all these four star potential NFL recruits end up. What a con job my alma mater has done. I’m headed to the Blantons. See you at basketball season. IPTAY sucks. I’ve been had ….. for sixty years!



I hope the coach puts this kind of nonsense on the bulletin board before every league game. Especially if we know who these coaches are

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Re: league average? anonymous? winning nattys?


Aug 4, 2022, 3:26 PM [ in reply to league average? anonymous? winning nattys? ]

Plot twist... The anonymous HC was actually Pawwl.

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Re: league average? anonymous? winning nattys?


Aug 4, 2022, 4:39 PM [ in reply to league average? anonymous? winning nattys? ]

I call it billboard material. Go getem boys. If any motivation was needed there it is.

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Re: league average? anonymous? winning nattys?


Aug 4, 2022, 5:10 PM [ in reply to league average? anonymous? winning nattys? ]



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Re: league average? anonymous? winning nattys?


Aug 4, 2022, 5:14 PM [ in reply to league average? anonymous? winning nattys? ]



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How many of the league's coaches wish they had Clemson's


Aug 4, 2022, 11:30 PM [ in reply to league average? anonymous? winning nattys? ]

record last year? Uh...I believe that would be everyone except Pitt and Wake!

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Re: league average? anonymous? winning nattys?


Aug 6, 2022, 10:07 AM [ in reply to league average? anonymous? winning nattys? ]

Best DL in the ACC
Best LBs in the ACC
Best secondary in the ACC
Best RBs in the ACC
Best WRs in the ACC
Top 2 or 3 OL in the ACC
Potentially best QB in the ACC

Yeah, we are just going to be soooooo bad

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Re: league average? anonymous? winning nattys?


Aug 9, 2022, 1:43 PM [ in reply to league average? anonymous? winning nattys? ]

Clemson was 8th out of 14 ACC teams in rush YPG last year. 5th in TDs. 6th in YPC.

That seems like "league average" to me.

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Do they use bulletin boards anymore? If not, build one and


Aug 4, 2022, 2:21 PM

print THIS out!

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They have laptops


Aug 4, 2022, 2:22 PM

no need to print.

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Re: They have laptops


Aug 4, 2022, 3:11 PM

haha! roasted! +1

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Re: They have laptops


Aug 4, 2022, 8:06 PM [ in reply to They have laptops ]

Don't say laptop around the coach that I'm betting said some of this. Hint, he is in Raleigh.

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Not if Dave Doeren can help it.***


Aug 5, 2022, 9:20 AM [ in reply to They have laptops ]



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There's something in these hills.


Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 2:27 PM

It was probably Dabo to use as fuel for the players haha, probably not...but wouldn't put it past him.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 8:41 PM

I would put it past him. What has he ever done to make you think he would do such a thing?

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 5, 2022, 8:48 AM

What has he done to make me think that? hmmm lol, the ROY bus, We're just lil ol Clemson, we shouldn't even be here....etc. He's used bulletin board material countless times, a lot of greats come up with stuff on their own to #### themselves off or their team to fire them up. MJ use to find things that would make him mad to use. Very Common thing to do, but if someone else said it....then that's their mistake.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 9:36 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting ]

Lol I was about to say the same thing.. Dabo wants his bulletin board material to get the boys fired up.. I mean honestly who would call the Clemson RB’s league average? Not many teams in all of college Fb can put three better options in one room, much less the ACC.. most the ACC don’t have one rb who would be in Clemson top 3

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 2:29 PM

13 year old girls stir up less drama than these clowns. They’re to scared to have there names out there so Clemson just needs to destroy everyone!!!!

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 2:38 PM

Exactly! Let's just assume every other coach feels this way about the Tigers and then go out and annihilate everyone. GooooooooTigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 3:37 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting ]

Yeah! What's up with this anonymous nonsense?

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Oh I bet you Dabo


Aug 4, 2022, 5:05 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting ]

knows EXACTLY who it was that said it.

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Can't argue with the digs on QB, WR, and OL... BUT


Aug 4, 2022, 2:50 PM

Every team in the ACC would get moist thinking about having our group of RBs. Whoever said that was a moron.

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Well, this anonymous poster says ...


Aug 4, 2022, 2:51 PM

We will see about all this in a little over one month.

And BTW Peter Woods was definitely coveted by Alabama, so there’s that.

Looking at the results from last years offense, it’s pretty easy for some anonymous clown to simply extrapolate that into the near and distant future.

Is he/she right?

Well know very soon ...

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Re: To Put Down The Orange Drinks And Orange Glasses From Last Season.... ---


Aug 4, 2022, 2:53 PM

....... whoever that was being interviewed was about 70% right.

This is a whole new year and its Clemson's opportunity to put the fear back in these ACC coaches........and beyond.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 2:54 PM

Until we prove that was year's stats on offense were a result of injuries, it is hard to argue with comments. We can start proving otherwise on September 5th.

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Exactly. Kinda funny seeing all the feathers this article riled up.


Aug 5, 2022, 2:11 PM

Our offense was dogcrap last year. OL has been dogcrap for the majority of the time Caldwell was in charge of that unit. We just had elite play despite the OL at WR, RB, and especially QB.

But back to last year: we almost lost, as in 1 score from losing, to a ton of teams. Especially early in the season (GT, at home, anyone??). QB was terrible, WR were terrible, RB were decent but could only do so much because of our dogcrap OL. How quickly some of y’all forget. It is because of Venables and our defense that we can taught another 10-win season.

So, yeah. No argument from me except our recruiting seems to be OK.

Jury is out on our offense. I’m not sold on Streeter. Flame away, but this season is enormous in terms of getting back on track or merely treading water like last year (specifically speaking about the offense. I’m not worried about the defense).

Truth hurts, don’t it?

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TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches are mostly right.***


Aug 4, 2022, 2:54 PM



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With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong


Aug 4, 2022, 3:01 PM

about? DJ wasn't who we thought he was, the OL evaluations have been bad, the WRs have fallen off...Sure, all that can change, but it was a pretty honest assessment if you are being objective

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That's the problem, many people here can't be objective


Aug 4, 2022, 3:13 PM

when it comes to Clemson football.

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I agree w/ you, except when their objectivity is wrong


Aug 4, 2022, 3:37 PM

Anonymous coach says "Now they're league average, same as at running back."

Is this statement not enough for Clemson fans to raise h$!!? And they aren't raising h$!! because these "many people can't be objective".

It's an asinine statement by an "ass-in-nine coach".

Go Tigers AND stay well Clemson Nation!

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Now do the non-RB comments?


Aug 5, 2022, 11:37 PM

Where they wrong about those too?

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Re: That's the problem, many people here can't be objective


Aug 4, 2022, 9:01 PM [ in reply to That's the problem, many people here can't be objective ]

There are some Tnetters that can't be objective about any Tiger sports team.

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if you think Clemson football is league average


Aug 5, 2022, 9:00 AM [ in reply to That's the problem, many people here can't be objective ]

Your objectivity is blurred by your love of all things Brownell

99% of all on here would kill to be league average in Littlejohn. They would bury the body if he could just get to .500 in league play.

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Re: With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong


Aug 4, 2022, 3:15 PM [ in reply to With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong ]

running backs are WAY above league average. And we haven’t even seen what the WR1s can do because they were never all on the field at the same time. Heck we started 3rd string guys many games. This assessment is based on the broken beat up product we fielded last year. Not the fully healthy potential product we have yet to see. Go reassess

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Our RB's have promise, most definitely.


Aug 4, 2022, 3:28 PM

Their pass protection was abysmal though last season and some of Shipley's easy pass drops were back breakers. I think we have an above average RB room with a ton of upside, but no way do we definitively have the cream of the crop.

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Re: Our RB's have promise, most definitely.


Aug 4, 2022, 4:28 PM

You say we do not have the cream of the crop? so which ACC teams RB room is better than ours?

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I'm not saying we don't, I'm just saying it's not some slam


Aug 4, 2022, 4:34 PM

dunk.

You telling me you wouldn't like Sean Tucker on our team?

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What position does he play?***


Aug 4, 2022, 4:50 PM



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Do you think he'd take a grey shirt?***


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Re: With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong


Aug 4, 2022, 6:31 PM [ in reply to With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong ]

Totally disagree. In 2015 our wide receivers were? Freshman dion Cain and Artavis Scott and freshmen Hunter Renfro? That intimidated the hell out of everyone? C’mon? The 2015-16 teams had Jordan Legett. This team misses a player like that desperately. The current WRs as a whole are better than 15-16, as a whole. The 2018 team had the best receivers bar none. Cain, Higgins, Ross, Renfro, Rogers. All five NFL talent. That was a scary room. But it becomes chicken or the egg with the current group. Is the current group not as good or was it the fact that our qB last year was terribkei just watched the bowl game the other day on the ACC network man did DJ try as hard as he could to lose that game. Some of his throws were beyond head scratchers?? I love the kid he’s a fine young man but wow was he terrible. I know the top of felt awful Justin Ross. That poor kid fight back against all odds and then DJ just crushed his draft stock. Everything comes down. The two times that we beat Alabama in the championship both times it wasn’t because our defense of line was dominant it wasn’t because our running backs were superstars it was because our quarterback was better than pair quarterback. Sal say what you want about the office of line the running backs the wide receivers in doesn’t matter. When we lost the LSU Joe Burrow played better when we got crushed by Ohio State Justin fields unstoppable one exception to that was 2015 where are quarterback was better but two special teams please change the whole game the onside kick and kick return 10 points. In every game we lost last year it was because the other teams quarterback played better than ours. Georgia it wasn’t much better but he didn’t throw a touchdown to the other team like our state again in the Pitt game DJ did something that I’ve never seen in pro football college football draft picks six on the shovel pass? The NC State game O’Leary play better look at its third-down conversions. Our quarterback has to play better than the other teams quarterback in every single game and if he doesn’t there are games that we will lose because I’ll quarterback life stop with the office of line and the running backs in the wide receivers what it’s all on the quarterback all of it

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Good Lord***


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Re: With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong


Aug 4, 2022, 8:14 PM [ in reply to Re: With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong ]

I mean, where to even begin...

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LOL.***


Aug 4, 2022, 10:47 PM [ in reply to Re: With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong ]



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Re: With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong


Aug 4, 2022, 10:24 PM [ in reply to With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong ]

Couldn’t disagree with the assessment. People need to take the glasses off. We aren’t as good as we were. This QB stinks.

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Where I think they are wrong:


Aug 5, 2022, 12:14 PM [ in reply to With the exception of the RB room, what are they wrong ]

1) Clearly RB as you said. Not only do I think our RBs are above ACC average, I think it's the best RB room in the conference. And they were young last year. I'm expecting them to be a monster this year.

2) Recruiting...I'm sorry? What exactly is wrong with our recruiting right now? Our Defensive recruiting is the stuff of legends...our OLine recruiting is probably the best it's ever been. Do we not have the #1 QB on the campus as a true freshman? Do we not have a top ranked QB coming in immediately behind him? We seem to be flailing at locking in a RB, no doubt, but most other positions are as good or better than ever. Even WR remains strong from a highly-recruited perspective. They just didn't show it last season.

3) It's not that they are wrong about DJ having a bad year but no Clemson fans want to hear some other coach close the book on him. If our coaches believe he can turn it around then we'll support him. And if he can't get out of this rut, we hopefully have a young QB who can step into the role.

4) OL evaluations. I just think this is way overblown. This just seems to be an area where there are two or three teams that consider it a strength, and then everyone else sucks. That's just not fair. We had a putrid offense last year but ranked 27th in sacks allowed...even with a statue at QB. I thought our RBs had holes and took advantage of them last season. Overall, I think our OLine takes a little too much heat.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 3:04 PM

I believe I detect a big ole steaming pile of Doern...

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I hope we put up 50+ points against NCS...


Aug 4, 2022, 5:21 PM

..and hold them to under 10 in Tigertown!! GO TIGERS

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Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL.


Aug 4, 2022, 3:13 PM

They are also correct about our recruiting not being at the level it has been previously.

But our RBs are absolutely better than average. I consider us to have the best RB group, top to bottom, in the ACC.

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Re: Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL.


Aug 4, 2022, 3:17 PM

how can you assess an injured QB and WR group fairly?

The WR1s were never even all on the field at the same time! We started Will Swinney(no offense Will).

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False...


Aug 4, 2022, 3:51 PM [ in reply to Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL. ]

Our recruiting has not fallen off, and is still on the level it once was, per Rivals 247 composite...

14.6: Dabo's average recruiting class ranking during his tenure at Clemson.
6: Number of top 10 classes Dabo has signed in his tenure at Clemson.
0: Number of classes outside of the top ten Dabo has signed in the last 5 recruiting cycles.

In actuality, the most recent 5 recruiting classes at Clemson have been Dabo's #4 (tie), #2, #1, #4 (tie) and #3 overall classes.

The only possible thing that can be presented as evidence that recruiting has fallen off is that we were only ranked number 10 in 2022, a year which we lost both coordinators. The fact is, Dabo has only signed 6 top 10 classes in his entire tenure here, including 2022, and has only ever signed 3 classes inside of the top 10 his entire tenure at Clemson. So, on paper, only 3 classes out of 14 ever signed at Clemson by Dabo were better than 2022, the class used as evidence of a "drop off".


We are also currently ranked #7 for 2023, but I did not include that ranking as we are not done with the 2023 recruiting cycle.


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Our WR and RB recruiting has absolutely fallen off


Aug 4, 2022, 7:30 PM

Since the natty run era.

OL recruiting has actually gotten better per Rivals.

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Is this claim based on research…


Aug 4, 2022, 8:18 PM

or your gut? We can start with WR, below is the year and national ranking for each WR signed…

2022: #10, #11, #149
2021: #4, #22, #42
2020: #20, #93
2019: #5, #23, #62
2018: #11
2017: #2, #12
2016: #16, #67, #81
2015: #2, #44, #93

I’ll ask you the same thing I asked JK, since he was never able to answer…

Which year concerns you?




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Re: Is this claim based on research…


Aug 9, 2022, 1:51 PM

We have had several misses since 2018

2018: Derion Kendrick was our lone WR signed. So zero WR in 2018 (they would be 5th year seniors now)

2019: Ladson and Ngata were both misses. When you are a top 10 WR in the nation like they both were, you have to have at least 1 of them making an instant impact as a freshmen. Instead both have been duds.

2020: EJ Williams and Ajou Ajou. Both are busts.

So the top 5 WR we signed from 2018-2020 contributed a combined total of 1660 and 13 TDs in their entire careers!.

For reference, Nuk Hopkins had 1405 yards and 18 TDs in his Junior year (2012).

This is why our WR are so average. We have no more stars

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Ok, let’s dive a little deeper into that…


Aug 9, 2022, 9:06 PM

Derion Kendrick: Did not make a big impact at WR because he was an All ACC CB.
https://clemsontigers.com/sports/football/roster/derion-kendrick/

Frank Ladson: “injury plagued career “
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/clemson-tigers/clemson-wide-receiver-reportedly-enters-transfer-portal-after-injury-plagued-career/amp/


Joseph Ngata: “Joseph Ngata has not been able to live up to his potential during his first three seasons in a Clemson uniform, not because of any fault of his own, but due to the fact that the injury bug…”
https://www.si.com/college/clemson/.amp/football/clemson-tigers-hc-dabo-swinney-afraid-to-say-anything-about-joseph-ngata


EJ Williams: “Williams (6'3"/195) has struggled with injuries...”
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/college-football/college-football/player/52793/ej-williams


Ajou Ajou: Disappointing to this point.


So you want to compare 3 injury riddled careers, and one CB’s receiving stats to a cherry picked season for a receiver who is #2 all time at his position at Clemson and #11 all time at his position in the ACC, and use that as evidence that recruiting has fallen off. Seems a little unfair.


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Re: Ok, let’s dive a little deeper into that…


Aug 10, 2022, 1:30 PM

You can be a bust due to being injury prone or just overrated.

If any of these guys had been in a horrible accident and had to retire from football, that's one thing. But they have proven that their bodies are too fragile for high-level football. Therefore, they are a bust because they have not been able to produce at the college level

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Re: Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL.


Aug 4, 2022, 4:02 PM [ in reply to Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL. ]

The last couple of years, the recruiting has been down a bit. However, we have one of the best classes coming in 2023.

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Not exactly...


Aug 4, 2022, 4:04 PM

2022: #10
2021: #5

Those were the past 2 classes.

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Yeah. Quite a bit of premature denunciation of our


Aug 4, 2022, 4:56 PM

recruiting on here prior to summer. Our national championship teams followed four years of 10+ averages to boot. Ratings services don't score heart and commitment, something that Dabo does masterfully, in addition to talent.

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Exactly...


Aug 4, 2022, 5:04 PM

I'm not saying we are #1 in recruiting and Dabo is infallible, but if you are going to say recruiting is falling off, at least do the math. In actuality, what we are seeing is people claiming to have answers for last season's 10-3 record. And for some the clear reason for our lack of production last season was our recruiting classes went from #3 overall to #5 overall to #10 overall from 2020-2022. Meanwhile, we are actually in the midst of the greatest recruiting run in Clemson history.

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Re: Not exactly...


Aug 9, 2022, 1:52 PM [ in reply to Not exactly... ]

Previous years our recruiting classes were as good, or better, when re-ranked 3-4 years later.

Our recent classes have had a TON of misses. Either with guys being overrated, injury prone, or transferring (likely due to #1)

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If that’s how we are measuring…


Aug 9, 2022, 9:14 PM

Then we can’t comment on the 2019, 2020, 2021, or 2022 recruiting classes, because we don’t know how they will look when reevaluated 3-4 years later.

And are you saying that being injured in college is something that falls back on recruiting? And players who transfer are also recruiting misses? Our coaches should have known these things?

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Re: If that’s how we are measuring…


Aug 10, 2022, 1:28 PM

2019 class have had 3+ years in the system, we know what we've gotten out of that class.

If you're talking overall class, yes you're correct, you usually wait until 4-5 years after that recruiting year. However, when you're looking at top-end talent in the class, those guys need to be making an impact within the first 2-3 years or they should be considered some level of a bust.

Even Da'Quan Bowers was a bust. When you're the #1 recruit and you only have 1 good year with a team, not really that worth it. I would want the #1 OVR recruit to have more than 20 career sacks as a DE

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Wait...


Aug 10, 2022, 1:37 PM

DaQuan Bowers was a recruiting bust?

"As a junior in 2010, Bowers recorded 67 tackles, 26 tackles for loss and 15.5 sacks. He led the nation in sacks and was tied for the most tackles for loss. Following the season, he was a first-team All-ACC selection, and was recognized as a unanimous first-team All-American. He was also honored as the ACC Defensive Player of the Year, and was the recipient of the Bronko Nagurski Trophy." -Wiki

I don't think we can have a serious football discussion at this point.

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Re: Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL.


Aug 5, 2022, 5:43 AM [ in reply to Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL. ]

I’d have to disagree with you on that. I think Miami has one of the deepest and most talented RB rooms in the country, not just the ACC. Knighton, Chaney, Franklin, Citizen, Parrish, etc.

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Re: Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL.


Aug 9, 2022, 7:12 PM [ in reply to Hard to argue about the assessment of our QB, WRs, and OL. ]

Recruiting not at the level it was?

Odd comment. Our last five years of recruiting have been ranked 8th, 9th, 2nd, 6th, and 10th. There is no other stretch of 5 years in history with a better run of final Rivals Team rankings. It is this string of highly rated recruiting seasons that makes a great many people have high hopes for 2022.

Do we have an ETN are running back? I doubt it.
Do we have a Lawrence or Watson at QB? I doubt it.
Do we have surefire receivers? No one knows.

I think we will go into most seasons going forward without a Lawrence, Watson or ETN. But our recruiting has been solid.

Go Tigers!!

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 3:32 PM

I'm sure that Doreen of Nancy State was one of the anonymous coaches.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 9:10 PM


I'm sure that Doreen of Nancy State was one of the anonymous coaches.


Probably Narduzzi was another.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 5, 2022, 11:00 AM

nctiger622 said:


I'm sure that Doreen of Nancy State was one of the anonymous coaches.


Probably Narduzzi was another.



I'm sure you are correct. Narduzzi and his fans are insufferable at this point.

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Looks like Todd Ellis was right...we're cycling out...


Aug 4, 2022, 3:35 PM

Keep this on the front of EVERY player locker that the rest of the ACC thinks that Clemson is OVERRATED and their best days are BEHIND them.

Let the coaches tell their teams to not worry about the Tigers, telling them that this is going to be a cakewalk.

I'm perfectly fine with that mentality, and I hope EVERY WOLFPACK player is thinking the exact same thing. I hope NC State looks at the trip to Death Valley as scrimmage against Kent State's 3rd string.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 3:47 PM

I don’t put any stock in anonymous people. Just like “whistleblowers “. Go Tigers.

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Change the oil in the ROY bus! Change the plugs! Get the


Aug 4, 2022, 3:50 PM

snow tires ready, cause Clemson is traveling deep into the winter season. Even if it's w/ a QB room and OL room that wasn't evaluated well, and receivers that have fallen off even though mostly of them were hurt or not on campus last year.

Oh yeah, and put some Bluebird Headers on that SOB! LET'S MAKE SOME NOISE!!!

Go Tigers AND stay well Clemson Nation!

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 4:03 PM

When you are the best even when you have a down year the little crybaby haters gonna hate.

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Hate all you want, but I think they are 100% right. BUT lets


Aug 4, 2022, 4:11 PM

hope we prove them wrong this year and our RB are world beaters, our QB play is top 25 and our WR find a way to get open and block......

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Aug 4, 2022, 5:58 PM

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 4:14 PM

Everyone played 2nd string Clemson last season. lol.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 4:42 PM

Athlon is doing this with all conferences. I read their article about the SEC. The vast majority of the comments they used were negative. (Arkansas will be Bama's toughest foe in the west; Lane Kiffin and Mike Leach can't coach without a great QB; Tennessee is a one man team, if Hooker gets hurt they may not even go to a bowl; Georgia's defense will be average; Florida has no depth, injuries will kill them; Jimbo gets accolades, but his record is mediocre; etc.

I'll bet the comments the quoted about every ACC school are almost unanimously negative.

And, notice they didn't even say "head coaches." For all we know they could have talked to a bunch of GAs at each school.

Click bait. Negative gets clicks.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 6, 2022, 11:43 AM

I would love to be in that room when they are brainstorming headlined ideas.
“Rejected- that post is too logical”
“rejected- that’s actually true”
“that is the stupidest thing you ever said. Let’s run with that one “

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 4:42 PM

Duh, You would have to be blind not to see the OL and QB play has sucked.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 5:31 PM

Last year was last year. This is a new team. It changes every year, in case you didn’t know. We had a bad offense last year and our stats and record shows that. Will it be the same this year? Idk, but I like the changes in the coaches, even if unproven at this level. However, they bring a surprise element to our new season and an attitude that we can do this job. We have some talent left at Clemson, so if we can put it all together and get through the season with less injuries, we can be a good football team. Maybe even great, but I’ll have to let you know that after we play the game. We still play it on the field, don’t we?

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Looking at last years results/squad, anonymous coach is mostly right.


Aug 4, 2022, 5:34 PM

This year TBD.

As far as NIL, we seem to be navigating well at the moment based on the recruiting rankings. But long term who knows?

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Just read the article and found this Louisville nugget to be


Aug 4, 2022, 5:45 PM

the most interesting:

"I think the school and the head coach figured out they're not a great fit for each other a while ago, and there hasn't been a way to create a break yet. He's tried to get out and it didn't work, and there have been issues at the school that have probably bought him some time up until now. Unless they surprise a lot of people, this feels like the end."

I guess I wasn't tracking Satterfield was disgruntled with Louisville.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 5:59 PM

They hate us cause they ain’t us.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 6:00 PM

I pretty much agree with the comments. The offence did stink it up last year mostly because the quarterback stunk, plus the receivers weren't great and the offensive line was bad. Not sure about this years recruiting. I hope for better this year.

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What do you expect from the amount of injuries we had last season?


Aug 5, 2022, 10:50 AM

We had a revolving door at OL, the WRs were hurt or banged up and DJ had no help whatsoever. Of course he had a bad season, no doubt about it but he put his heart and soul into that season and gets zero thanks for it. Kinda crappy for fans to trash him.

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Re: What do you expect from the amount of injuries we had last season?


Aug 5, 2022, 1:13 PM

I thought the o-line played pretty well down the stretch. DJ and the receivers did struggle but as you pointed out injuries played a factor.

To the OP rb will be just fine but thanks for playing along.
Recruiting is fine.
To say we aren’t a development program all you have to do is look at what Dabo inherited and where we are now. At least we can say 10-3 is a down year.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 6:01 PM

The games still have to be played. Wisdom tells me to just wait. Let the haters do their job. If you have been a Clemson fan for as long as I have been. 1977. Then YOU KNOW what Clemson FB is. YOU KNOW WHERE it's been . YOU KNOW the product that is going to take the field. Let them talk . GO TIGERS! ALL IN !

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 6:15 PM

Anyway you cut it DJ was absolutely dreadful last year. I was at opening game with Georgia and when he walked out for the first series you can see his whole body shaking. He wasn't ready for that. I hope he can put it all together, but I saw him miss some really simple plays over and over again last year and again in the spring game. I know we're not as strong at wide receiver as we were, but the QB can make up for a lot of that, especially if you puts it in their catch radius. The running back comments make no sense. I feel pretty good about us there. And the D should rock. We just got to find a QB that can get it done. Otherwise we'll ground and pound ourselves to another 10 or 11 win season ho hum.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 6:15 PM

Anyway you cut it DJ was absolutely dreadful last year. I was at opening game with Georgia and when he walked out for the first series you can see his whole body shaking. He wasn't ready for that. I hope he can put it all together, but I saw him miss some really simple plays over and over again last year and again in the spring game. I know we're not as strong at wide receiver as we were, but the QB can make up for a lot of that, especially if you puts it in their catch radius. The running back comments make no sense. I feel pretty good about us there. And the D should rock. We just got to find a QB that can get it done. Otherwise we'll ground and pound ourselves to another 10 or 11 win season ho hum.

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This is clearly the transcript from Tony Elliot’s


Aug 4, 2022, 6:17 PM

Interview with Virginia when they asked him to explain what happened last year.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 7:21 PM

But, Dabo has kicked us around so badly we just
can’t find anything nice to say about him anonymously.
Knowing the facts...this has to be the most insane piece
of garbage I have ever read...anywhere.

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 4, 2022, 7:37 PM

Note they don’t comment on our defense.

They got nothin bad to say about our D.

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Aug 4, 2022, 7:38 PM

Deep into your Uterus.

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We've got them right where we want them


Aug 5, 2022, 7:40 AM

Spot the ball!

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Aug 5, 2022, 7:40 AM

Spot the ball!

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 6, 2022, 11:51 AM

It’s the age old story of trying to tear down the champ. They are grasping at straws. One weak recruiting class and One poor season with offense, and suddenly they’re now GT or Duke.

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Well said Mk2


Aug 6, 2022, 1:36 PM

A lot of teams and coaches that have been pounded on by Clemson for years now have a minute to dream Clemson is cycling down. If we get the QB position level of play in gear early this 2022 season, their dream will die hard. Go Tigers!

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 6, 2022, 1:33 PM

Thanks to all the unnamed coaches for doing the best job possible of motivating The Tigers.

"Coaches, I really hope it tasted good coming out of your mouth. I think you might gag on it when it gets shoved down your throat."

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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches knock Clemson offense, recruiting


Aug 6, 2022, 1:33 PM

Thanks to all the unnamed coaches for doing the best job possible of motivating The Tigers.

"Coaches, I really hope it tasted good coming out of your mouth. I think you might gag on it when it gets shoved down your throat."

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"Anonymous coaches"..


Aug 6, 2022, 1:38 PM

If it's true, it has to be Doeren. I can't think of another coach in the league who would say dumb things like this.

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