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If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?
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If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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May 19, 2023, 1:58 PM

Interesting to think about.

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Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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May 19, 2023, 1:59 PM

How is that pulse locked in at 85% so consistently?

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Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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May 19, 2023, 4:16 PM

She is ignoring 48 T-Netters so while their TD's might reflect on the post % they have no impact on her pulse. Shrewd move for a coot troll to maintain a more respectable number.

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Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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May 19, 2023, 2:08 PM

Same as it is now

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So he’s dead weight?***

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May 19, 2023, 3:48 PM



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Re: So he’s dead weight?***

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May 19, 2023, 4:09 PM

Not necessarily. He can still mentor kids/coaches, but I doubt he has that much say in on field decisions or performance. I have no insider knowledge though.

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Re: So he’s dead weight?***

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May 25, 2023, 5:52 PM [ in reply to So he’s dead weight?*** ]

Speaking of dead weight...

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Re: If Brad Brownell weren't here, what would our record be?

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May 19, 2023, 2:09 PM

There. Fixed it for you.

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Screw Calford.


Your Brownell obsession is unhealthy.

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May 19, 2023, 3:47 PM

Get some help.

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Your Dabo obsession is unhealthy.

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May 19, 2023, 3:53 PM

Fixed it for you.

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Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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May 19, 2023, 2:12 PM

I'd rather not. I just want to enjoy the fact baseball has life again after what feels like forever.

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Fair enough.***

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May 19, 2023, 3:48 PM



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not really - this team doesn't play tight like Jack's teams


May 19, 2023, 2:15 PM

routinely did. Of course, we haven't gotten to the Tourneys yet, so he may yet show us how.

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Re: not really - this team doesn't play tight like Jack's teams

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May 19, 2023, 4:01 PM

I’ve always thought that was an overused trope that wasn’t really true. Leggett’s downfall started with the back to back losses to SCar in the 2010 CWS. That most certainly wasn’t true in the first game. We went in overconfident. sCar was using a junk baller who had been relegated to the end of their bench after being absolutely shellacked by Clemson during the regular season. We swung away at everything that night. If my perusal is correct we only had 4 strikeouts. Only 1 looking. We swung at garbage ending up as easy fly balls and grounders all night. I don’t regard that as playing tight. Our pitchers did well enough to win both games. And we lost the elimination game by one run.

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Re: not really - this team doesn't play tight like Jack's teams

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May 19, 2023, 4:08 PM

Leggett was notoriously tight and rigid as a head coach and refused to change. Much to his demise. Even he has alluded to his failure to compromise when he was HC and how, in retrospect, he would have been more willing to accept change. I know some of his former players that are HS coaches and in private conversations were against their players coming to Clemson to play for him. They alluded to him taking all the fun out of baseball. No facial hair, no rally caps, no bat flips, no long hair, no tattoos. For better or worse, kids these days don't want to play under those restrictions. I often wonder how much he cringes inside every time a Clemson player stomps home plate when we score.

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I had a family member that played for Jack

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May 19, 2023, 5:47 PM [ in reply to Re: not really - this team doesn't play tight like Jack's teams ]

Was an All-American at Clemson. I’m just passing on the general perception that he has. Nothing more.

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Re: I had a family member that played for Jack

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May 19, 2023, 6:46 PM

I wasn’t trying to be hostile about it or anything. It was a well worn trope that had some basis in fact. But I don’t know that his coaching was as much responsible as the general circumstances around the program 2010-2015. But at the most pivotal moment of his career - one win away from a cws final the team objectively played too loose. And a lot of the folks who most bashed him for being “too tight” also hated the dog piles and trips for ice cream - which are a little contradictory.

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Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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May 19, 2023, 4:32 PM

Over/under on how many Clemson baseball games JK has ever watched - televised or in person. I’ll take zero.

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Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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Apr 19, 2022, 1:13 AM

He did call baseball boring a few weeks ago in another thread.

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Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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May 20, 2023, 6:34 AM [ in reply to Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now? ]

is this the thread that got Judge banned???

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What would have risen to that level? Something that got


May 20, 2023, 9:06 AM

deleted?

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This place is much better without jk - SO much better***

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May 25, 2023, 5:15 PM [ in reply to Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now? ]



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: If Jack Leggett weren't here, what would our record be now?

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May 20, 2023, 12:54 PM

Bakich showed him some respect and gave him a ceremonial role with the team. I don't think it has helped or hurt as far as our record but perhaps it has been a net positive in the dugout/locker room.

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