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I read something on here tonight that shocked me.
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I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 26, 2021, 9:08 PM

I read that Tony Elliott’s buyout is $8 million.

Someone please tell me that isn’t true.

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Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 26, 2021, 9:16 PM

I don’t think assistant coaches have buyouts but I could be wrong… he has a 3 year deal for 5.1 million, not sure it would make sense his buyout is 8:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28647069/clemson-tony-elliott-gets-new-deal-becomes-highest-paid-oc

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Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 26, 2021, 9:18 PM

My understanding is that it's 25% of contract running through '25, so 2M.

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Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 26, 2021, 9:25 PM

How can you be so critical of Our OC and yet defend the mediocrity the basketball HC produces? Seems more than a bit hypocritical to me. But then, that’s just my humble opinion. Go Tigers!

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Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 26, 2021, 9:47 PM

Well, Brad isn’t getting 5 star talent to work with. So there’s a start. We’re also never dead last in the country offensively. Tony has managed to do less with more.

Brad does a lot with less. And I’m very critical of Brownell.


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Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 26, 2021, 10:31 PM [ in reply to Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me. ]

He’s trying to draw a parallel, despite the difference in trophy cases.

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I’m not drawing any parallels.


Sep 26, 2021, 10:36 PM

The only people bringing up Clemson basketball in my football posts are overly sensitive Clemson football fans who think that their criticisms of our basketball program somehow ease the sting of a disappointing football season.

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That sure sounds like a projection by you.


Sep 27, 2021, 10:02 AM

The flip side of what you are suggesting is exactly what you are doing.

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What are you talking about?***


Sep 27, 2021, 10:57 AM



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I am critical of our OC this year because he is the highest paid


Sep 26, 2021, 10:41 PM [ in reply to Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me. ]

offensive coordinator in college football and has top 5 talent to work with, yet we are 121st in offense out of 130 teams.

That’s not cutting it.

Bringing up basketball shows your own insecurities. But since you brought it up, our head coach who is not in the top 50 in salary, who has a staff of assistant coaches who are paid below the national average, is coming off of year where we had a freshman class ranked in the top 25, finished ahead of numerous ACC programs with far more basketball resources than we have, and were seeded in the top 30 in the NCAA Tournament. That’s called overachieving, and it’s something we used to do in football too.

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Sep 26, 2021, 11:03 PM [ in reply to Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me. ]

He is a concern troll that does not ever want what is best for Clemson. He is delighted with how this season is going.

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Says the “real fan” whose only posts here in the last 24 hours


Sep 26, 2021, 11:09 PM

are to complain to the site moderators and to unfairly criticize me.

And you call me a troll. LOL!

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You can’t expect that guy to be reasonable or rational.


Sep 27, 2021, 12:54 AM

He has the orange man bad syndrome!

Those people are truly emotionally crippled!

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Re: Says the “real fan” whose only posts here in the last 24 hours


Sep 27, 2021, 6:55 AM [ in reply to Says the “real fan” whose only posts here in the last 24 hours ]

I’m not saying you’re not a “real fan” as in I’m a better fan than you. It’s not a subjective analysis. I’m saying you’re an actual troll who is not a fan of Clemson at all. It is literally the only way to rationalize your posts. You’re very good at it. But you aren’t a Clemson fan.

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Sep 27, 2021, 10:59 AM



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Sep 27, 2021, 11:20 AM [ in reply to Re: Says the “real fan” whose only posts here in the last 24 hours ]

I’m sorry do you have to have a Pollyanna view in your mind of the football team play to be a true Clemson fan? Translated: being concerned for the obvious problems that exist doesn’t mean you aren’t a fan… Get over yourself!

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Sep 27, 2021, 10:43 AM [ in reply to Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me. ]

I agree I thought the Judge could only defend coaches I have been disappointed in his criticism of the football program that has had much more success than the basketball Judge you can’t have it both

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It's simple. The support, resources, and expectations


Sep 27, 2021, 11:03 AM

for football are higher.

Do you not think our offense through 4 games this year deserves some criticism?

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Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 26, 2021, 9:44 PM

Brother, could you spare a dime?

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...and people insisting that he should be fired.


Sep 27, 2021, 10:05 AM

lol, that buyout says that Clemson admin and Dabo don't want him to leave on his own.

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I don't think he should be fired now.


Sep 27, 2021, 11:05 AM

I am curious to see what he does the remainder of the season.

Do I expect him to make any noteworthy changes? No.

Do I think he knows how to make the needed changes? I honestly don't.

But I think he deserves an opportunity to coach the rest of the season, and Dabo will decide then whether he's keeping Elliott or going in a different direction.

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Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 27, 2021, 10:36 AM

According to Fan Nation it's almost 8 million. "Tony Elliott makes the list at 11th overall with $1.6 million. Both Clemson assistants have roughly a $7.4 million buyout if there were to choose to test the waters as a head coach this offseason."

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Elliott got a raise earlier this year, and now makes $2 mil.


Sep 27, 2021, 11:41 AM

a year.

This article doesn't mention anything about a buyout.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30832960/clemson-oc-tony-elliott-gets-extension-2025-season-raise-2m-annually

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Sep 27, 2021, 11:08 AM

It saddens me to know that Tony is the highest paid OC in the country.

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Re: I read something on here tonight that shocked me.


Sep 27, 2021, 11:27 AM


I read that Tony Elliott’s buyout is $8 million.

Someone please tell me that isn’t true.




Here's the article I referenced. https://www.si.com/college/clemson/football/clemsons-elliott-venables-rank-among-highest-paid-assistants-in-college-football


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His raise and extension was the most ill-conceived act since


Sep 27, 2021, 11:39 AM

a strikingly similar blunder with Tommy Bowden.

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