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I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.
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I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 12:22 PM

This makes sense, given his influential role as our football coach.

I also keep reading what a horrible decision it was for us to agree to the ACC’s grant of rights.

Based on that, how much responsibility should Dabo have for Clemson agreeing to the GOR? I’m certainly not blaming him - I thought it was the right move at the time too - but if he is going to be driving the decisions about conference affiliation as many of you say, shouldn’t he also be partly held responsible for the situation we are currently in?

I’m just trying to understand here. TIA.

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I’m sure they asked for his input, but he ain’t the decision


Jul 8, 2022, 12:31 PM

Maker.

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 12:33 PM

Coach B you want some input ?

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I’m sure Brad has had some input but not as much as Dabo has.


Jul 8, 2022, 12:35 PM

Which makes sense, because football is largely driving these conference realignments.

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Re: I’m sure Brad has had some input but not as much as Dabo has.


Jul 8, 2022, 12:37 PM

Football accounts for 90 percent of the tv deals and 10 percent is mens basketball.

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There was a time when Miami, FSU, Va Tech, Clemson, Ga Tech and even UNC..


Jul 8, 2022, 12:33 PM

would have been considered a strong upper echelon in football for the ACC. That potential never turned into a really. Deals were made with that historical backdrop. Not to mention the ACC was late and weak to the TV party.

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It’s really a shame that some of those schools have been down in football lately.


Jul 8, 2022, 12:37 PM

I know Swofford gets blamed a lot, but his expansion choices were excellent based on the recent history of those programs just prior to joining the ACC.

If Miami, VT, FSU, and Clemson had been consistent top 25 teams, with others like BC, UNC, Georgia Tech having some top 25 teams here and there, ACC football would be been outstanding.

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Agree… Clemson FB recent prominence could be viewed as too late …


Jul 8, 2022, 12:49 PM

To have significantly impacted the ESPN deal.

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 12:34 PM



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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 12:38 PM

I love how when ppl don’t like reality you’re trolling.

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Judge Keller is a big, outspoken basketball fan


Jul 8, 2022, 12:52 PM

who always posts on the football board. Of course he's going to agree with the ACC's moves that benefit basketball schools. Yes, he's trolling.

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 1:15 PM [ in reply to Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics. ]

Big Dookie, the irony here is that you are being the troll Judge Keller have a good day buddy hope all is well!

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Marlborocountycoot = ClemsonAlum1987 = coltdizzle


Jul 8, 2022, 1:24 PM

.

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Where does the big dookie reference come from please?***


Jul 8, 2022, 2:51 PM [ in reply to Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics. ]



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I can’t read anything you type without hearing Cindy Brady in my head.


Jul 8, 2022, 5:44 PM [ in reply to Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics. ]



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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 1:01 PM



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So is that a yes or a no?


Jul 8, 2022, 2:48 PM

Is Dabo responsible or not?

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 1:03 PM

A: What legitimate source says Dabo is heavily involved?
B: What legitimate source says Dabo had anything to do with GOR?


For the love of Clemson, please go away until our annual losing streak in January/February.

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 1:16 PM

Actually, he probably wasn't that involved at the time. I remember sports writers talking about the ACC expansion and what a coup it was to pull it off. Then, as you and others have pointed out, had Miami, B.C., Pitt, Louisville etc held up it'd be a different discussion.

Now, when the GOR was being negotiated in 2014-2016 when finally signed, I doubt Dabo or Brad were consulted very much. It was more an administrative level decision and still is to this day. Jmho.

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I'm referring to the grant of rights deal recently signed


Jul 8, 2022, 2:49 PM

not ACC expansion.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

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Re: I'm referring to the grant of rights deal recently signed


Jul 8, 2022, 3:13 PM

There was a reference to the expanded teams. My point is had those teams been as dominant as they had been the previous decade when we accepted them in, the GOR wouldn't be a big deal because the ACC would have locked in the highest ratings.

I did address your original question in my 2nd paragraph concerning Dabo's and Brad's involvement. The gor was signed in 2016. I stated explicitly that at that point in time, Dabo was ALL IN building a football program and again, at that time, the money looked pretty good. The problem I have with it is going to 2036. That should have been 2026 imo.

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 1:25 PM

Ummm… yes… and the situation isn’t bad at all.

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So you do think Dabo is partly responsible for us signing


Jul 8, 2022, 2:49 PM

the grant of rights deal?

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 2:46 PM



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So is that a yes or no?


Jul 8, 2022, 2:50 PM

Do you hold Dabo partly responsible for Clemson agreeing to the ACC's current grant of rights deal, or not?

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Sorry. Not feeding trolls today.


Jul 8, 2022, 2:54 PM

Check back Tuesday.

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Not trolling at all. Just asking the question.


Jul 8, 2022, 2:58 PM

Interestingly, no one has directly answered my question.

I wonder why?

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Re: Not trolling at all. Just asking the question.


Jul 8, 2022, 6:31 PM

because you're an #######?

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Re: So is that a yes or no?


Jul 8, 2022, 4:29 PM [ in reply to So is that a yes or no? ]

She said no twice.

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 2:52 PM

Do you have a link to where you read it?

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All I can say is


Jul 8, 2022, 2:57 PM

I have read dozens of posts here over the last week stating that Dabo is the most influential and powerful person at Clemson, and that he is heavily involved in all decisions made by the Clemson athletic department.

If true, it stands to reason that he was also heavily involved in Clemson going "all in" with the ACC in the grant of rights deal and TV deal.

I am curious if Tiger fans here - the ones who have been so critical of the ACC's current grant of rights and TV deal - are holding Dabo partly responsible for Clemson agreeing to these deals.

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Re: All I can say is


Jul 8, 2022, 3:54 PM

Ahhhh yes, you've read other posters and are now claiming that you "keep reading" as if its been reported. Clown.

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Re: All I can say is


Jul 8, 2022, 4:39 PM [ in reply to All I can say is ]

Heavily involved doesn't equal "the last word". You're worse than a troll.

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 3:20 PM

Maybe we just all need to stop worrying or speculating about things we neither know about nor can change. At some point, the powers that be will let us know what is going on.

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not shocked at your lack of comprehension and


Jul 8, 2022, 3:25 PM

understanding of business and coaching. so, you want an opinion on who should have blame?? because why exactly? and you’re asking a message bored??

are you retarded?
now that’s a fair question. help me understand.

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I for one am glad you are stopping. You are one of the most ignorant posters ever. You obviously think very highly of your own opinion, unlike the rest of us - RockHillTiger


lol, he is the head foosball coach***


Jul 8, 2022, 3:57 PM



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Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


"I keep reading"...


Jul 8, 2022, 4:41 PM

Where? Here?

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Re: I keep reading that Dabo is heavily involved in major decisions affecting Clemson athletics.


Jul 8, 2022, 6:29 PM

#######

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