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All-TigerNet [14090]
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Finally that coot appeaser Prez Barker...
Apr 16, 2013, 11:35 AM
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is gone. Now we can start to improve in sports other than football. A bright new day for Clemson Athletics.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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And a bleak day in academics. He was a great president to
Apr 16, 2013, 11:40 AM
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my University. I believe your athletics quarrels belong with TDP...
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Letterman [271]
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Re: And a bleak day in academics. He was a great president to
Apr 16, 2013, 11:44 AM
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Amen to your comments. President Barker has done an outstanding job representing the "entire" University. Thanks to his efforts the drastic state of SC cuts have had minimal impact to the school. Job well done.
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110%er [6676]
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He was a great president to - AMEN! See my post below:***
Apr 16, 2013, 11:53 AM
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I think we can all agree that people have had different
Apr 16, 2013, 11:47 AM
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experiences and issues/praises for barker. We certainly all don't know the fact regarding everything he's done during his presidency.
He's been a great representative of the school and a decent prez, but some people CERTAINLY have justifiable reason to dislike him.
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Letterman [271]
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Re: I think we can all agree that people have had different
Apr 16, 2013, 11:51 AM
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You know, that's the thing about Leadership, you are not going to be liked by everyone. Is he leaving the University in a better place than he found it, I would say so. I would venture to say that even the great Dr. Billy Graham had his detractors. It is a cliche, but "it can be lonely at the top."
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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I'm not referring to simply not being liked.
Apr 16, 2013, 11:55 AM
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I', referring to using questionable means to reach the goals that you have set. I certainly believe that Clemson is better off than they were before Barker. I'm just not a fan of how he went about some things. And other people closer to those situations may have similar sentiments.
My point is that's okay. Don't bash people because they aren't no-questions-asked barker fans and they don't think he's the best thing that ever happened to clemson.
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Team Captain [491]
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"Questionable means to accomplish his goals" ...do tell?
Apr 16, 2013, 1:48 PM
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you're clearly a knowledge person about what president barker has done for the university over the past 14 years, what with graduating 2 years ago...
please, tell me all the meetings you've had with him, the board or admin council that led you to your conclusions...
youre entitled to your uneducated opinions, but i can surely tell you President Barker is a remarkable human being and we're lucky enough to have had him for a decade and a half. He embraces the Clemson Family and has a strong passion for Clemson's success.
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Virtuoso [610]
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People on this board are like high school girls. They post
Apr 16, 2013, 6:11 PM
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based purely popularity, image, and on irrational emotions. Barker is more a politician than a real leader. Two big scandals (slush fund & US News) and our athletics tanked under him!! But he looks the part and says all the right things. He looks good on the surface, but doesn't pass the sniff test if you look closer!!
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I don't see how any alumni would have a very good reason to
Apr 16, 2013, 12:01 PM
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like him. Clemson athletics fans who didn't go to CU have some misplaced hate but it never makes sense... He runs the UNIVERSITY. It was never and shouldn't be his job to get involved in what happens on the field unless you have UNC/Auburn levels of corruption in your athletic dep't.
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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Wasn't arguing that he should be involved....?***
Apr 16, 2013, 12:22 PM
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Prez Barker was the one who pushed for Tommy Bowden's...
Apr 16, 2013, 6:29 PM
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extension in 2008 which included 2.3 million a season and 4 million dollar buyout all that after massive underachieving. Then Bowden was fired midway through the 2008 season.
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Virtuoso [610]
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Pushed? More like ordered TDP as always. He owned TDP.***
Apr 16, 2013, 6:30 PM
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Exactly….
Apr 16, 2013, 6:37 PM
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anybody who denies this is a fool. TDP was the same thing at Oklahoma State. At OSU TDP hired a terrible candidate for their women's basketball team in exchange for a large donation. TDP was nothing more than a great fund raiser, he was more of a chief fundraiser than an athletic director.
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Virtuoso [610]
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Over educated YES man!!***
Apr 16, 2013, 6:40 PM
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TDP was a puppet for prez barker....
Apr 16, 2013, 11:43 AM
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Clemson was good in academics before prez barker. Only thing prez barker did was manipulate us news and world report unreliable college rankings.
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110%er [6219]
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Nothing like a convenient scapegoat...***
Apr 16, 2013, 11:44 AM
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110%er [6676]
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you are full of it - Barker is the best president we have
Apr 16, 2013, 11:50 AM
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ever had - academically and ATHLETICALLY! I watched him on his golf cart looking sadly around
the almost empty stadium where under Tommy West we lost again...That was his first or second year - LOOK AT CLEMSON NOW! GO TIGERS, WE WILL MISS YOU PRESIDENT BARKER
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I'll assume you're 20 something and give you a pass for
Apr 16, 2013, 11:54 AM
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forgetting names like R. C. Edwards.
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I for one have not forgotten R.C. Edwards.
Apr 16, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Then again, I've never heard of R.C. Edwards in the first place.
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Sad. Half of the campus was built under his leadership...
Apr 16, 2013, 12:03 PM
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of 21 years.
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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sad...sad indeed***
Apr 16, 2013, 12:04 PM
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Re: I for one have not forgotten R.C. Edwards.
Apr 16, 2013, 8:30 PM
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R.C. Edwards is where greats like Javis Austin,Kyle Young,Nuk Hopkins,Jarvis Jenkins,Terry Smith,Shaq Lawson and future Tiger Jaleon Ogelsby played Middle school ball at lol... And yes I know who the school was named after haha
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Re: I for one have not forgotten R.C. Edwards.
Apr 16, 2013, 8:31 PM
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I have not forgotten RC or Moonpie! She as active on campus and most all of the students loved her as much as Dr. Edwards.
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Nearly all of our athletic programs have gone down under...
Apr 16, 2013, 6:25 PM
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Prez Barker. Compare the 14 years before him, and the 14 years of his tenure. Clemson's overall athletic program was a million times better in the 14 years before he became prez.
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Virtuoso [610]
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Exactly!!!***
Apr 16, 2013, 6:31 PM
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Barker has been a great president. You have NO knowledge
Apr 16, 2013, 12:20 PM
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Of what you speak! Most of your msg are equally ignorant
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Re: Finally that coot appeaser Prez Barker...
Apr 16, 2013, 12:23 PM
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shocking another ignorant post from tigerking79
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Tiger King- stick to being a Fan. Alums know that there is
Apr 16, 2013, 1:16 PM
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more to Clemson than sports.
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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If it wasn't for sports you wouldn't be an alum…..
Apr 16, 2013, 6:35 PM
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Clemson is out in the middle of nowhere, and if it wasn't for the non alums support of the university and the athletic program Clemson would not be what it is today. By the way you can be good at academics and athletics, which Clemson was before Prez Barker. Clemson has always been good academically. Only thing Prez Barker did was have an illegal slush fund and manipulated the unreliable US news and world report rankings. Keep on buying the Prez Barker propaganda. But among American College Academia, he is viewed as a manipulator and someone of questionable character. Take the Prez Barker tinted glasses off and you would see that.
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Re: Finally that coot appeaser Prez Barker...
Apr 16, 2013, 2:24 PM
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Maybe we can get back to being a land grant school
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To be AT ALL qualified to talk about Barker I think you need
Apr 16, 2013, 2:36 PM
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to at least:
1) Have graduated from Clemson
2) Have experienced (through yourself or someone close to you) 2 or more Clemson presidents.
I started under RC Edwards, finished under Atchley. Both my daughters graduated under Barker. Since I graduated I have been a member of IPTAY and the Clemson Fund (Academics) and been to many many functions with each and every President.
RC Edwards, Walter Cox (temporary president) and Jim Barker and the ONLY men I have ever seen in that job that put Clemson first and were Clemson Men. Unfortunately the vast majority of college presidents are just looking for the next bigger job. We have been fortunate to have a few that actually cared about Clemson. This is a very sad day for our school.
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Orange Blooded [3257]
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Re: To be AT ALL qualified to talk about Barker I think you need
Apr 16, 2013, 5:16 PM
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Started and ended with Edwards....daughter with Deno and son with Barker. Hope we get a Clemson man because all the Clemson men have done great jobs. Walter Cox was what a Clemson man is all about. Barker was a great president for academics and athletics......Solid Orange!
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Orange Blooded [3257]
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Best thing to say of Jim Barker is he was, is, & will be
Apr 16, 2013, 5:22 PM
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SOLID ORANGE!
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I worked at Clemson during Pres. Barker's tenure
Apr 16, 2013, 6:39 PM
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and the two who held the office before him. He was a breath of fresh air to the University. I appreciate all he did and feel that he always wanted Clemson to excel in whatever it undertook. I hope his successor is a Clemson graduate as well.
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Wow. Sheer ignorance.***
Apr 16, 2013, 8:10 PM
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