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Self-admitted show trial.


Jun 7, 2022, 1:07 PM

This is the USSA

"“With their control of Congress hanging in the balance, Democrats plan to use made-for-television moments and a carefully choreographed rollout of revelations over the course of six hearings…to persuade voters that the coming midterm elections are a chance to hold Republicans accountable for it,” The New Times reported."

(Archive link to protect against the NYT's stealth editing)

https://archive.ph/4fAKI

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Yeah. The actual trials have already convicted a good many


Jun 7, 2022, 1:12 PM

MAGA folks. Sorry, ANTIFA. They're all ANTIFA.

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Re: Yeah. The actual trials have already convicted a good many


Jun 7, 2022, 1:18 PM

It would be neato if they’d share what they’ve learned about the actual plotting to overthrow the election, and less about the #### army that broke into the Capitol. The whole “January 6” ordeal gets all the attention that should more appropriately be focused on just what a side show & travesty the two months leading up to it were.

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Yeeeeap.


Jun 7, 2022, 1:39 PM

It is going to require an historic show of restraint that heretofore these types of hearings have failed to muster, but I can't think of a more important topic to be reminded that our Congress Critters are actually worth the salary we pay them.

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Country is disgusting anymore


Jun 7, 2022, 1:30 PM



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Re: Country is disgusting anymore


Jun 7, 2022, 1:35 PM

Are you for or against "law and order"? You seem to championing the side that is doing everything they can to avoid telling the American people what they know. Why is that?

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Re: Country is disgusting anymore


Jun 7, 2022, 1:39 PM



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Re: Country is disgusting anymore


Jun 7, 2022, 2:01 PM

Are you for or against "law and order" like you claim? Too funny. You fully support subversion of the law because it doesn't jive with your politics. And LoL at how triggered you get when I expose your own hypocrisy. ??

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Re: Country is disgusting anymore


Jun 7, 2022, 7:49 PM

You are a dumb chit. You think you support law and order?

Every person on this board has said if any of the Jan 6 participants broke the law, they should have appropriate punishment.

This stance is 180 deg apart from the left's win-at-all costs strategy. You support riots, looting, smash and grab, ambushing cops, and the rest of it. You don't speak out against it. You are okay with violent criminals having no jail time.

You don't speak out against high-ranking FBI agents in charge of investigating Trump and HRC texting to his mistress that he will keep Trump from taking office.

You supported Adam Chithead when he was lying about the Russian hoax. You believed the HB laptop was Russian disinformation. You could care less that HB collected $11M (as reported by your bros at NBC and other MSM outlets) from foreign sources that is 10,000% a bigger potential problem than any lie you made up about Trump. And, not one of Bidens say it is not true, because it is true.

You people are sad. Don't even pretend to virtue signal because everyone knows it is BS.

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Re: Country is disgusting anymore


Jun 7, 2022, 9:17 PM

LOL. Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout.

Since you jumped in, are you for or against "law and order" like you claim? Too funny. Why do you fully support subversion of the law because it doesn't jive with your politics. I'll wait.

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Jun 8, 2022, 12:53 AM



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If the Democrats are pinning their hopes that this kangaroo


Jun 7, 2022, 1:43 PM

court made for TV political theater will change their mid-term fortunes then they are more delusional than ever.

Quite frankly - the vast majority of the voting public are way more concerned with energy costs, food costs and inflation in general. You know - things they actually feel and see EVERY DA*NED DAY!!! This partisan show trial is just a repeat of their failed "half the country is a bag of deplorables" and "MAGA supporters are reprobates" strategy that is going to fall flat on its a.z.z...

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Re: If the Democrats are pinning their hopes that this kangaroo


Jun 7, 2022, 1:46 PM



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Re: If the Democrats are pinning their hopes that this kangaroo


Jun 7, 2022, 2:03 PM [ in reply to If the Democrats are pinning their hopes that this kangaroo ]

I'm no fan of the Dems, but they're actually on the side of preserving democracy - as is Cheney and Kinzinger and a whole host of others like John McCain, Paul Ryan, Mark Sanford, and even Mitch McConnell who have refused to advocate for this "stolen election" nonsense or falling meekly in line with the vile and lawless Cult of Personality that worships Donald Trump.

So the Dems are (justifiably) trying to make it a choice between Democracy and Authoritarianism...and if the GOP continues to blindly follow Trump they're falling right into that trap. Contrariwise, the Dems are falling into the trap of dying on the hill of almost boutique identity-politics culture-war crap like transexuality (as Obed correctly pointed out) and ridiculous Wokeness like "Defund the Police". I'm even hearing talk of "reparations" creeping into the conversation.

No, no, and no some more. To both of you.

Dudes. Neither extreme remotely appeals to the middle. In the meantime the economy's tanking, we're having a mass shooting a day, and COVID's creeping back. And oh, yeah, China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea are circling like vultures, waiting for us to show throat and turn on one another.

If Biden and Trump run again, or if, God help the Dems, they run an uncharismatic and overly Woke candidate (like, say, Kamala Harris!), I think that opens the center lane wide slap open for the right kind of third-party candidate like Justin Amash - who's going to be the Libertarian candidate - to run as a rational alternative.

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Re: If the Democrats are pinning their hopes that this kangaroo


Jun 7, 2022, 7:48 PM



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Purely a curiosity question,


Jun 7, 2022, 2:04 PM [ in reply to If the Democrats are pinning their hopes that this kangaroo ]

but if a Republican was in the White House today, what would he/she be doing differently to control energy and food costs, inflation, etc.? Does merely "being Republican" negate those things?

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Given that tariffs and decades-old red tape are playing a


Jun 7, 2022, 7:18 PM

significant factor in inflation, not to mention the COVID relief money doled out like candy (which, given their record, the GOP would have done as well) --

-- not much.

The question is would Republicans have acted more swiftly to end tariffs, de-regulate, and avoid spending more? Maybe. But probably not.

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And consider it's a worldwide problem...


Jun 7, 2022, 7:48 PM [ in reply to Purely a curiosity question, ]

they would also have to explain how anything a Dem/Pub does would affect the global markets.

Gas prices: Supply/Demand imbalance on the world markets (OPEC+ has a huge hand in supply issues right now)

Inflation: Supply/Demand imbalance caused by Covid and the fact that the economy is actually doing pretty well right now.

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Re: Purely a curiosity question,


Jun 7, 2022, 8:37 PM [ in reply to Purely a curiosity question, ]

The simple quick answer: do the opposite of the Biden Administration:
- Quit demonizing the US energy producers - make them allies and not your enemy
- Pick energy production experts as cabinet officials to lead US Energy policy
- Stop imposing EO's and Federal regulations on the Energy sector that are designed to dissuade investment, drive up costs, and stifle domestic energy production


The more in depth answer:

Just to clarify - "being Republican" means nothing as there are plenty of DC swamp dwellers and oxygen thieves that have an "R" by their name. Instead I prefer a President and elected official that sticks to a true Conservative agenda. I have yet to find a true Conservative in the modern Democratic Party which unfortunately only leaves the spineless Republican Party that claims to be "Conservative".

Having clarified that, if a true Conservative were in the White House instead of Joe Biden it is my opinion that energy costs, and therefore inflation, would most certainly be lower. For starters, a Conservative would never have agreed to this nutcase green religion agenda of the Biden Administration that is mostly responsible for their bad energy sector policies.

Furthermore, a Conservative would not have hired advisors and staff based on their sexuality, genitalia, ethnic group, or skin color in lieu of competence and field of expertise. Before we get into specific Biden policies let's take a look at two such cabinet picks from Joe Biden that happen to have a lot of influence over US Energy policy:

First there is Biden's selection for Interior Secretary Deb Haaland who is a committed anti-fossil fuel industry activist who is on record declaring:
- "I am wholeheartedly against fracking and drilling on public lands." (Guardian May 15, 2019)
- "Keep fossil fuels in the ground." (Debforcongress.com - December 28, 2020)
- "I pledge to vote against all new fossil fuel infrastructure." (Debforcongress.com - December 28, 2020)

After holding such public positions on US domestic energy production what was the message Biden was sending to the fossil fuel industry with Secretary Haaland's selection? It certainly wasn't one of "hey we want to work with you"...

Next is Biden's selection of Jennifer Granholm as Energy Secretary who in 2016 said, "We ought to be doing everything we possibly can to keep fossil fuel energy in the ground" (address at Canisius College, NY). In 2018 Granholm was a participant in a COLTURA.org music video where she sings about keeping gasoline in the ground (it's on YouTube). COLTURA is an environmental group that is determined to make America "gasoline free" and is pushing the US to be 100% EV by 2030. But of course Granholm has a long history of climate change activism throughout her former political career so her comments/support of COLTURA is no surprise. So again - what message was Biden sending to the fossil fuel industry with Granholm's selection? Perhaps that answer can be found in her actions since taking over as Energy Secretary...

No one can forget how Granholm simply laughed when asked in November 2021 "What is the Granholm plan to increase oil production in America?" (Interview response to question by Tom Keene). As opposed to her eventual non-answer of "global markets" (which have nothing to do with how quickly US producers can pull oil out of US soil) the real reason is because the Biden Administration has no intention of doing anything to increase US oil production. In March 2022, Granholm gave voice to what their real energy policy is:

"We're working through an energy transition. And we've gotta start by adding energy. And the reality is we have to take some time to get off of oil and gas."

So the Biden Administration is not about increasing oil production - they are about transitioning off oil and gas. Yet neither Biden or Granholm ever provide specific details of where they plan to get the "added energy", how this "energy transition" will occur, who will fund it, nor a timeline for it. In essence, Granholm and her boss have no realistic energy policy for the USA except for "screw oil while we dream of green"...

So what are some of the actions/policies that Biden has done (that a Conservative would not) that have had a negative affect on the energy sector resulting in rising costs that pushed inflation higher? Here are a few just from Biden's first year in office:

1. 20 JAN 2021 Biden signed the "Executive Order on Protecting Public Health and the Environment and Restoring Science to Tackle the Climate Crisis". In this EO, Biden effectively told the fossil fuel industry the Biden regime was going to war with them. Here are a few of this EO's highlights:
- Required all Federal agencies to review and revoke Trump's pro-American energy rules and actions throughout the executive branch.
- Required agencies to take action to increase burdensome emissions regulations as part of the Left's green agenda and subsidize "good union jobs."
- Cordoning off large swaths of Federal land under the guise of National Monument designations, reducing the ability to produce American energy domestically.
- Issuing a moratorium on all oil and natural gas leasing activities in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).
- Restored and expanded the use of the social costs of carbon metric to artificially increase the regulatory costs of energy production, as well as artificially increasing the so-called "benefits" of decreasing production.
- Revoke the Keystone XL Pipeline, shutting off a future source of energy transportation which would have brought more oil into the country.
- Revoked Trump administration executive orders, including those related to WOTUS and the Antiquities Act. The Trump-era actions decreased regulations on Federal land and expanded the ability to produce energy domestically.

2. On Jan. 27, 2021: In yet another EO (i.e. Executive Order on Tackling the Climate Crisis at Home and Abroad), Biden did the following:
- Attacked the energy industry by promoting "ending international financing of carbon-intensive fossil fuel-based energy while simultaneously advancing sustainable development and a green recovery." In other words, the US government would leverage its power to attack oil and gas producers while subsidizing favored industries.
- Directed agencies to eliminate Federal fossil fuel subsidies wherever possible without comparable actions for other energy sources, disadvantaging oil and gas.
- Pushed for an increase in enforcement of "environmental justice" violations and support for such efforts, which typically are advanced by radical environmental organizations.
- Directed the Interior Department to stop oil and natural-gas leases on Federal lands and in public waters.

In these two EO's alone, Biden attacked the physical exploration of domestic energy production, the financial investment in such endeavors and started the process of incurring burdensome Government regulation and additional costs to US domestic energy production.

4. Feb. 23, 2021: Biden Administration issued a Statement of Administration Policy in support of H.R. 803 which curtailed energy production on over 1.5 million acres of federal lands.

5. April 15, 2021: The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission’s policy statement outlines - and effectively endorses - how the agency would consider market rules proposed by regional grid operators that seek to incorporate a state-determined carbon price in organized wholesale electricity markets. This amounts to a de facto endorsement of a carbon tax that would be paid by everyday Americans.

6. April 22, 2021: Biden unveiled a "Climate Finance Plan" to "promote the flow" of capital "away from high-carbon investments." In other words - discourage investment in US oil production...

7. April 27, 2021: The Biden Administration issued a Statement of Administration Policy in support of S.J. Res. 14 which rescinded a Trump-era Rule that would have cut regulations on American energy production.

8. May 20, 2021: Biden signed an executive order requiring federal agencies to calculate the highly speculative risk of so-called "global warming." This EO would artificially increase regulatory burdens on the oil and gas industry by increasing the "risk" the federal government undertakes in doing business with them, among other things. Kerry chirped: "It's going to change allocation of capital."

9. July 11, 2021: Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said that she expects multilateral development banks to "discourage new investments in fossil fuel-based power generation except where other options are not possible." The Biden Administration once again sending out the signal to the financial community to back away from investing in fossil fuels.

10. Oct. 14, 2021: The Department of Labor created the ESG rule where it requires fiduciaries to consider the economic effects of climate change and other so-called environmental, social and governance (ESG) factors when evaluating funds for retirement plans. As worded, the rule would strongly encourage fiduciaries to draw capital from domestic energy development in oil and natural gas to less reliable renewables. Yet again - the Biden Administration hit at the sources of oil industry financing...

11. Dec. 10, 2021: Biden directed federal agencies to cease funding new, international, carbon-intensive fossil-fuel initiatives.

12. Jan. 9, 2022: The Biden administration withdraws US support of the EastMed Pipeline thus effectively killing the project that was to be completed in 2025. The EastMed pipeline would have supplied all of Europe with 10% of its natural gas needs from Israel that would reduce Europe's dependence on Russian energy. While this energy would not have been available to Europe until 2025, it would have sent a powerful signal to Russia that their near monopoly on European energy was coming to an end.

13. Jan. 31, 2022: Reuters reported, "The Biden administration will raise the royalty rate that drilling companies must pay on oil and gas leases it plans to sell in the first quarter." I'm sure this did nothing to raise gas prices at the pump...


These are just some of the damaging actions the Biden regime have done in their first year in office. During his campaign, Biden made no secret of the fact that he wanted to end the fossil fuel industry and by all accounts he has started a war with them that has the US public paying the price. If a President and the Executive Branch sends the message to an industry that they want to increase that industries production costs, reduce investments in their business, and ultimately drive them out of business - it certainly will have an affect on what that business does. To say that Biden's policies have no affect on the energy sector is intellectually dishonest and ignores the evidence.

Instead, someone who is interested in lowering energy costs and inflation would be doing everything in their power to encourage investment in US oil producers, opening ANWR and remove restrictions on Federal lands, removing Federal regulations that drive up costs and make it harder to pull oil/gas out of the ground, support and encourage pipeline construction for product delivery, and stop the constant demonizing of an industry that every aspect of the US economy relies upon. Have a Presidential summit with US energy producers to discuss what actions they need from the Federal Government to start increasing oil production. Instead of making US energy producers the "enemy" make them an ally in getting fuel costs down. A good place to start would be to roll back every Biden Administration EO and Federal regulation that targets the Energy sector that has been enacted since January 2021.

Ultimately energy costs affect everything in our economy - everything from food production to keeping store shelves stocked. Lower the energy costs and inflation will go down - drive energy costs through the roof and inflation will go along with it. Right now the Biden Administration is full speed ahead on the latter...

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I commend you for taking that sort of effort...


Jun 7, 2022, 9:38 PM

but it doesn't address that gas/energy prices have skyrocketed around the world and haven't had an impact on our oil production, at least not to the level of directly causing gas prices to be higher.

Here:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

we are almost back to pre-covid production levels. As Tiggity pointed out yesterday, OPEC+ hasn't met their quotas of barrels produced and when they control 55% of the oil supply on the market, this becomes a pretty easy equation.

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/its-a-worldwide-problem-30787066


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/03/oil-markets-opec-has-limited-spare-capacity-russia-is-less-relevant.html


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Don't conflate two separate issues: Global Market prices vs


Jun 8, 2022, 12:23 AM

policies that increase US domestic oil production. Those global prices have nothing to do with the USA's ability to implement US policies that encourage and support increased US domestic production which has the most affect on US gas prices. Simply put - if US energy companies were producing enough US domestic oil to meet the US demand (which we were doing in 2019) then what happens outside the US on the global oil market is largely irrelevant to US consumers.

Most foreign gas prices, particularly in Western Europe, have ALWAYS been a lot higher than US gas prices. A big reason for that is that the US has historically produced a significant amount of our US domestic oil requirements that in turn kept our gas prices considerably lower than most other countries.

Unfortunately, we have a situation right now where the whole Executive branch of Government is anti-fossil fuel and every step they have taken is in favor of their stated policy to reduce reliance on domestic fossil fuels in favor of their green agenda. This is no secret - the Administration states this as their goal right in the very actions they have taken. Now that we are feeling the consequences of these Biden green policies, the Biden Administration wants to pretend it's all "Putin's fault" and "oil is a global market so there's nothing that can be done" which is utter hogwash.

The reason US gas prices are now climbing at an alarming rate is that we are having to rely more and more on the global market to meet our demand. If US producers were pumping enough to meet US demand we wouldn't have to go to the global market and would be paying less at the pump. If we had an Administration that was allied with the US Energy companies and put a whole of Government approach into increasing US domestic output - US prices would be closer to their historical norms without this wild upward trajectory we are currently on.

Biden's anti-fossil fuel policies which he started implementing in January 2021 are simply bearing the anticipated fruit he and his green wacko's demand. Unfortunately, without a complete reversal of the Biden policies, US energy producers will continue to have significant declines in the fossil fuel investors resulting in little to no increases in production.

The answer is rather obvious - if we want lower energy costs, we simply have to produce more US domestic oil. It is not a difficult concept but one that the Biden Administration green wackos absolutely oppose.

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Jun 8, 2022, 12:49 AM

We are producing at near pre-pandemic levels yet gas prices continue to rise, so clearly, domestic oil production isn't the issue. Then you add in that prices are going up across the world, and finally add that OPEC+ controls 55% of the oil supply on the market and 90% of all oil reserves and they aren't meeting their quotas then the answer is pretty obvious as to why gas prices are high right now.

As for why foreign gas prices are higher, one big reason is that they have considerably higher gas taxes than we do (many European countries have somewhere around $2 dollars per gallon, compared to the highest in the US being 56 CENTS per gallon.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Gasoline_Diesel_Taxes.webp
https://taxfoundation.org/gas-taxes-in-europe/



This video is a good summary of the gas price issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnBqAzJXVGo&t=544s

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Your argument seems to think US demand is the same in


Jun 8, 2022, 8:16 AM [ in reply to Please click on the links I provided earlier.... ]

2022 as it was in 2019 - 3 years ago. US energy demands are NOT stagnate over time. With rare exception, every year the US demand for energy is increasing. Producing US oil at pre-pandemic levels is NOT ENOUGH to meet the US energy demand in 2022. When US producers can't meet the current US demand the US has to get that oil from the global market and we become more susceptible to those price variations. That is where we are right now with our rising prices. To remove that US vulnerability to the global market - the US must produce more oil.

Look at the EIA graph you referenced earlier. From 1920 to 1970 there was 50 years of steady increases in US oil domestic production. Why - to meet the steady increase in US demand as the US (on average) was consuming more oil each year. From 1970 to 2010 there was a decline in oil production and we had a corresponding price increases and declines that were hugely dependent on the whims of OPEC who was making up for the declines in US oil production. From 2010 to 2020 there was a steady ramping up in US oil production, thanks to the US shale oil revolution, with the US finally meeting US production to US demand in late 2019/early 2020. For 70 of the last 100 years, US oil producers have increased their production to meet the steady increase in US demand which has kept our prices relatively the same in the US (inflation adjusted) over that period.

It really is straight forward - over time if the US yearly domestic production does not continue to track with the yearly US increase in oil demand our reliance on foreign oil increases. When that happens, prices at the US pump become are more susceptible to the global market conditions. If the US produces more oil we become less dependent on the global oil market and usually pay less at the pump.

It is amazing the cheetah flips people will go through to convince themselves that Biden's policies have no affect on US oil production and prices at the pump. For those that still believe that our price increases are purely global market conditions answer this question: "What is the intention of Biden's green energy agenda?" It certainly is not to continue to increase US domestic fossil fuel production as all of the Biden Administration's policies have reflected their desire to keep US fossil fuel production from increasing.

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Re: Your argument seems to think US demand is the same in


Jun 8, 2022, 9:50 AM

So far, the Biden policies that you credit $5 gas for is

1. Cancellation of a pipeline that was a decade away from being completed.

2. Pause on issuing new federal land leases (private and state owned leases not affected)

3. Biden mean tweeting our dependence on fossil fuels in a campaign speech.

This doesn't come close to a $3 jump in gas. Accept the fact that prices are up because demand us exceeding supply, and Biden has done nothing to restrict global production of oil, outside of allowing Russian imports. LOL at how you guys insist that the POTUS controls the global production and price of a barrel of oil.

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There's a fallacy about "energy independence" that even


Jun 8, 2022, 8:19 AM [ in reply to Don't conflate two separate issues: Global Market prices vs ]

you appear to have fallen for. The US was a (barely) net exporter of petroleum products in 2021. Per the definition that was being tossed around under the Trump administration, this equals energy independence, and it's simply not true. "Petroleum products" is a HUGE umbrella of raw crude, sweet crude, various refined petrols, natural gas, kerosene, butane, and basically every other fossil fuel pulled out of the ground. The reason we don't just KEEP as much as we need to not have to purchase from other countries is that we never had the refining capacity to do so--not even close. And it's even worse now, with 6 major refineries, including the largest one on the east coast, shutting down in the last 3 years. Most were due to the pandemic, and business decisions were made to not bring them back online; a few were slated for retirement. Per a National Review article that mumbo posted a while back, the newest refinery built in this country was back in 2018. Before that? 1977. 30+ years without a new refinery.

Does that sound like it's because of Biden's green policies?

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This statement of yours is factual incorrect...


Jun 8, 2022, 8:34 AM [ in reply to Don't conflate two separate issues: Global Market prices vs ]

and shows a fundamental ignorance on how the oil market works and how is traded.

Simply put - if US energy companies were producing enough US domestic oil to meet the US demand (which we were doing in 2019) then what happens outside the US on the global oil market is largely irrelevant to US consumers.

Honestly, I'm not sure how anyone could actually believe that.

Go to this link, check the boxes for WTI (West Texas Intermediary) and Brent (Europe) and then press the Graph button and observe how these 2 prices move together over the last 35 years. Yes, on any given day there are slight differences in their movement, but very slight.

Or, better yet, graph Brent Crude Oil versus US Gulf Coast Gas prices and observe how they move together.

It's also a misnomer that the US was "energy independent"...we were a net-exporter of oil in 2019. That doesn't mean we still didn't import oil...we just exported more than we imported.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIM_NUS-NRS_1&f=M

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php


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I very much dislike the heavy-handed “green energy” approach


Jun 7, 2022, 9:54 PM [ in reply to Re: Purely a curiosity question, ]

that Biden, AOC, etc. have taken. I’m all for encouraging cleaner energy, as I believe we are supposed to be good stewards of this earth. But in the meantime, while we figure out how to make cleaner energy more affordable and widely available, demonizing fossil fuels is the wrong approach.

With that said, I don’t think these leftist energy policies have had much, if any, effect on things like gas prices going up recently. Gas prices are high everywhere. That’s what happens when you have a worldwide pandemic, supply chain issues, unrest in the Middle East, etc.

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I think it has some importance.


Jun 7, 2022, 1:47 PM

But I wish it weren't on TV.

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Re: I think it has some importance.


Jun 7, 2022, 1:51 PM



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I may be misremembering...


Jun 7, 2022, 1:53 PM

But I thought I remembered that Republicans chose not to participate.

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Re: I may be misremembering...


Jun 7, 2022, 2:01 PM

This is where he taps out.

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Re: I may be misremembering...


Jun 7, 2022, 3:11 PM [ in reply to I may be misremembering... ]

No…you remember correctly. McCarthy appointed 5 pubs. Pelosi rejected JIm Jordan and another (don’t recall), I believe largely on the grounds that one or both might actually be called to actually testify before the committee…which Jim Jordan actually now has…so although I’m sure there’s some gamesmanship, she probably made the right call. Then McCarthy pulled all of the appointees in protest I guess (just a show on this part). They didn’t want pubs to serve on the committee anyway…so it was just a convenient excuse.

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I forgot about that first part, where nominees were rejected***


Jun 7, 2022, 3:17 PM



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Still no list of Epstein’s clients, btw.***


Jun 7, 2022, 2:13 PM [ in reply to I think it has some importance. ]



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I don't know what this means.***


Jun 7, 2022, 2:58 PM



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Obviously you haven't checked Trilateral membership... ;~)***


Jun 7, 2022, 4:11 PM



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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 7, 2022, 5:01 PM [ in reply to I don't know what this means.*** ]

It's called deflection and grasping at straws.

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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 7, 2022, 5:08 PM

Isn't that what this whole production is? Deflection from the destruction of our economy?

I guess straw # "leak the abortion ###", didn't have the impact you idiots were looking for.

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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 7, 2022, 5:56 PM

I thought "Law and order" was a core principle of conservatives. Am I wrong in believing that, because MAGA is definitely proving me wrong on that assumption.

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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 7, 2022, 6:43 PM

What does this committee or subsequent TV show, have to do with “law and order”. The people that broke the law are in jail awaiting their day in court.

Just say you are for blsht grandstanding.

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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 7, 2022, 9:21 PM

This investigation is way deeper than simply the morons and DA's who actually believed the lies of the sitting POTUS and broke into the capital. This investigation is also seeking to determine if any laws were broken by those in charge. Why do you not want this matter cleared up? Why are you against law and order?

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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 7, 2022, 9:28 PM

I will not take anything that includes Adam Schiff, as a serious matter. Ever.

Why don’t you ask pelosi or the d.c. mayor why they turned down 10k troops that trump authorized? That should have been question #1 from the committee. Since it wasn’t = instant clown show for idiots to salivate over.

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Jun 7, 2022, 10:12 PM

Now your running with fake news. The 10,000 troops offered by Trump is BS and has not been proven.



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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 7, 2022, 11:07 PM

Where's your BS claim come from? Let's have some proof if you're going to spout out such a claim.

I'll wait.

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Jun 8, 2022, 7:10 AM

As requested. LOL. MUST PROTECT DADDY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/16/fact-check-no-trump-request-10000-guard-troops-jan-6/8929215002/


https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/02/donald-trump/no-proof-trump-requested-10000-guard-troops-jan-6-/


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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 8, 2022, 9:50 AM

now fact check Russian collusion and Hunter's laptop

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Re: I don't know what this means.***


Jun 8, 2022, 9:52 AM

I accept your surrender, even with your salty butthurt.

MUST PROTECT DADDY!!!!

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Jun 8, 2022, 11:29 AM

Surrender? ###? Your “fact checkers” have zero credibility, so posting from them means absolutely nothing.

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Slick Wille says "Thank you"... "Lolita what...?"***


Jun 7, 2022, 5:13 PM [ in reply to Re: I don't know what this means.*** ]



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It's a reference to the politically biased justice system.***


Jun 7, 2022, 6:30 PM [ in reply to Still no list of Epstein’s clients, btw.*** ]



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Please, not the pedophile ring again.


Jun 7, 2022, 9:57 PM [ in reply to Still no list of Epstein’s clients, btw.*** ]

Let me guess, hundreds if not thousands of Democrats and Hollywood celebrities were/are in on it, and their house of cards is going to come crashing down once names are made public by some true patriots?

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


How was Epstein a member of the Trilateral Commission...?


Jun 8, 2022, 1:09 AM

"References, please..?" You'd think international powerbrokers would check (or maybe no need to?).

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Re: Self-admitted show trial.


Jun 7, 2022, 4:53 PM

Why are so many still being held in jail? Kamala hasn't bailed them out?

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Re: Self-admitted show trial.


Jun 8, 2022, 10:01 AM

It is REALLY fascinating watching tabby and deweather have an issues-based adult discussion and polite debate while some of the usual infantile partisans on either flank are flinging monkey poo around them.

It suggests the way through this partisan-gridlocked mess we're in. Put the likes of tabby and deweather in a room and let them hash out a solution, they're really bright guys. They'd come up with a compromise that addresses the very necessary need for economic redress in the short term...while in turn successfully transitioning us off gas and onto renewables and an economically workable energy policy that isn't based on rainbows and moonbeams and good intentions that's absolutely tanking our economy in the short term.

To me, the bigger question in our politics is: how do we make sure it's the tabbies and the deweathers doing the debate, and not Marjorie McSpaceLaser or AOC and her Che-Guevera-In-A-Dress act?

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Jun 8, 2022, 10:03 AM

...and while I was typing that, 19B and flow jumped in with more adult issues-based contributions. Me likey.

This is productive. The stupid cable-news-driven partisan idiocy is not.

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