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Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?
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Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 20, 2022, 5:53 AM

What's your take?


  Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?    [Results]
 
It's not; we just can't stop it, and there's little we can do to slow it down.
The people coming here are seeking better lives, and we owe it to them to take care of them.
We need the cheap labor; it benefits us.
Dems want it to affect the socioeconomic makeup of America in a way that builds a voting base for the future. It's all political.
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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 20, 2022, 6:33 AM

It’s all political. Dems have resisted efforts to stop if. They want the larger voting base. It’s beyond disgusting.

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 20, 2022, 6:39 AM

I disagree that it's all political. The numbers indicate that both D & R don't have the answer and both are complicit ....



It needs to be handled by the legislative branch with comprehensive reform but nobody does anything.

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 20, 2022, 6:42 AM

Ok fair enough but the question is why is there no will to stop it? It should not be hard if we commit the resources to do it.

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 20, 2022, 6:50 AM

And WHO is responsible for committing the resources to do it? Answer ... THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH!

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 20, 2022, 6:55 AM

I wish we had leaders who would commit to stopping it. It’s the real crisis we are facing.

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I agree


Dec 20, 2022, 7:49 AM

This crisis of people moaning incestantly over the internet about one of our least pressing issues as a nation has to stop.

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Re: I agree


Dec 20, 2022, 8:10 AM

Millions crossing the border illegally is not an issue? Ok

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Re: I agree


Dec 20, 2022, 11:37 AM

Not a pressing one, our politicians could give 2 fuggs, it is just fodder for the xenophobic mouf breathers. It is having zero impact in your life unless you clean motels or hang drywall, and your local econmy very well is dependent on the cheap labor they provide.. It is also flat out fabrication that millions are just casually walking across our border.

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Re: I agree


Dec 20, 2022, 12:34 PM

So how many have crossed the border? You seem sure the number is not large so what’s the number?

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Re: I agree


Dec 23, 2022, 10:15 AM [ in reply to Re: I agree ]


Not a pressing one, our politicians could give 2 fuggs, it is just fodder for the xenophobic mouf breathers. It is having zero impact in your life unless you clean motels or hang drywall, and your local econmy very well is dependent on the cheap labor they provide.. It is also flat out fabrication that millions are just casually walking across our border.


In your opinion, which issues are more pressing and should be addressees in order? Not being an ARsse or anything. Just curious.

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Re: I agree


Dec 23, 2022, 3:53 PM [ in reply to Re: I agree ]

Shirley! You can't be serious! But ... on the other hand, perhaps you can be!

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Re: I agree


Dec 20, 2022, 1:33 PM [ in reply to Re: I agree ]

It's been going on for a long time, and this person wanted it open " both ways". ?

https://youtu.be/VUXXw6xr4gI

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Re: I agree


Dec 20, 2022, 1:47 PM

Been going on but it’s out of control now. Just another reason to loathe politicians.

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I agree, the constant TDS on the internet's is


Dec 20, 2022, 8:40 AM [ in reply to I agree ]

Disgusting and has to stop

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I think the will is there, but nobody is willing to


Dec 20, 2022, 7:35 AM [ in reply to Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed? ]

Compromise because the smallest voices on the extremes of both sides are the loudest.

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Re: I think the will is there, but nobody is willing to


Dec 20, 2022, 9:09 AM

Then the question is why does the majority not have the gonads to do something?

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Because Congress is terrified of the minority.


Dec 20, 2022, 9:13 AM

So the status quo remains, which is just fine with Congress because as long as there's a problem they can fundraise to solve it.

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Re: Because Congress is terrified of the minority.


Dec 20, 2022, 10:02 AM

Sadly that’s probably true. So, we get to watch America die on the vine.

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So it goes.


Dec 20, 2022, 10:06 AM

Just look at marijuana legalization. Nearly 60% of Americans think it should be legal. Its continued prohibition is causing a huge strain on minority communities, as well as our law enforcement resources. Many states have already legalized it.

Congress?

"Nawwww. We'll pass."

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Re: So it goes.


Dec 20, 2022, 10:17 AM

Yeah but when I think of things I want congress to be concerned about pot is way down on the list.

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I'm using it as an example of Congress refusing to take even


Dec 20, 2022, 10:23 AM

the low hanging fruit for an easy win.

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Re: I'm using it as an example of Congress refusing to take even


Dec 20, 2022, 10:25 AM

Oh ok. Understood.

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Re: I think the will is there, but nobody is willing to


Dec 24, 2022, 10:49 AM [ in reply to Re: I think the will is there, but nobody is willing to ]

Tardog said:

Then the question is why does the majority not have the gonads to do something?




Maybe. Just maybe... most American's don't think this is as big a problem as those who are complaining the loudest about it?

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 23, 2022, 11:08 AM [ in reply to Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed? ]

Trump had it under control until Capt. FUBAR took over. Do YOU think the Dems are doing this border crap intentionally? Just curious if you're up to date on the news. So try hard.

FJB

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 23, 2022, 11:23 AM

I like it better now. The more the merrier. It's like a big party.

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 23, 2022, 11:34 AM

Dumb post of the day winner! Congrats, I knew you would come through with some insanity, your specialty.

FJB

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 23, 2022, 11:39 AM

I appreciate it. I really enjoy them when I see them on TV. They seem so interesting and festive. I hope to meet some eventually. How is your experience with them?

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 24, 2022, 10:52 AM

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/


I know we apparently have a spike this year, but the trends have been good for the last fifteen years.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 23, 2022, 3:45 PM [ in reply to Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed? ]

Tardog said:

It’s all political. Dems have resisted efforts to stop if. They want the larger voting base. It’s beyond disgusting.




But how can migrants who don't vote growing the voting base of anyone?

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It's multichoice


Dec 20, 2022, 7:32 AM

But the "replacement theory" option is a laughable joke given how much Hispanics have broken for the GOP in the last few cycles, and that's even with the Party talking about them like their pox-carrying invaders come to extinguish good white American families.

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I think it's pretty well known that the Dems have wanted the


Dec 20, 2022, 7:45 AM

warm bodies for what they thought would be guaranteed votes eventually. I (and plenty of others) have been saying for several years that the conservative nature of this bloc would bite the Dems in their culos, and I think we're just seeing the beginnings of that coming to pass. It's not quite at the point where they've abandoned the strategy though. If they truly thought all these people coming in were (R) voters, Joe would issue so many effective and pragmatic border control executive orders that it would make your head spin.

Do agree that it's a multiple answer issue----the old school Chamber of Commerce portion of the Pub party still has lobbyists reminding them constantly that their customers need this labor.

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Amen to all of this.


Dec 20, 2022, 8:40 AM

Let's look at hispanics:
- Aggressively entrepreneurial
- Tradfam-focused
- Conservative social values
- Religious

Maybe. Just maybe. If the GOP spoke to them like allies, instead of just red meat for the base, the GOP would never have to worry about losing another election.

But yeah, talk to any restaurant or service industry establishment and ask how they're doing on labor, and how that's impacting consumer prices and general service availability.

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Re: Amen to all of this.


Dec 24, 2022, 10:52 AM

Exactly

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Re: It's multichoice


Dec 23, 2022, 11:12 AM [ in reply to It's multichoice ]

Any viable evidence? I agree but the numbers will still favor the Donkeys! The Dems rolled the dice big time, hoping they could get several million illegals in, then give them phones, housing, food and money...which will seal the deal! Yes, it's a crapshoot, but one the Dems will win!

FJB

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 20, 2022, 8:48 AM

Congress ultimately has to fix it.

The Pubs want the border more secure and then consider the Dreamers and potential pathways to citizenship for those here for a long time.

The Dems want the latter and then consider shoring up the border.

Instead of reaching a compromise and trying to accomplish both objectives in a timely fashion, the status quo continues which the Dems are ok with and the Pubs are mostly not.

Check out video from the El Paso airport. It reminds me of a 3rd world airport.

Congress needs to deal with this now and then get back to Trump and Hunter, neither of which are a pressing problem, as Trump golfs in Palm Beach and Hunter paints in Malibu.

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SCRAM you! Get out of here with your pragmatism!***


Dec 20, 2022, 8:55 AM



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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 20, 2022, 10:31 AM

No first world country in the world allows millions a year to just stroll across their borders and then sign up for govt benefits as they drop anchor babies left and right. You know they they don't? Thats right, because it's cultural suicide. Of course thats music to the ears of leftists who hate this country anyway, but let's not pretend like Republicans have much of a track record of doing anything about it either other than using it as a campaign issue. Trump actually tried to do something (with some success) but his own party fought him tooth and nail.

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Time to put White People on the endangered species list!!!!!***


Dec 20, 2022, 10:33 AM



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Because no meaningful immigration legislation


Dec 20, 2022, 11:20 AM

has been passed in 40 yrs.

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 22, 2022, 10:02 PM

fundamentally change america



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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 24, 2022, 10:54 AM


fundamentally change america




Illegal immigration decreased on his watch. Not that facts matter.

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 22, 2022, 10:10 PM

Maybe all of those? Who knows? Maybe the Dems don't want to insult the Hispanics in this country and are pandering for existing votes?

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 23, 2022, 11:43 AM

This poll shows just how conspiratorial the right's thinking has become. I'll give fox news one thing: they are extremely effective.

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Re: Why is massive illegal immigration being allowed?


Dec 23, 2022, 11:47 AM

I have no problem with a tight border. It is so disingenuous when people on FOX act like they care about the actual people that come here. They act like it is more cruel for the immigrants to even make the trek etc etc.

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