|
Replies: 48
| visibility 1
|
Orange Blooded [3102]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1694
Joined: 3/31/15
|
Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 10:44 AM
|
|
I’ve been thinking about what he brings to the table this year.
Have any of you ever said, “If I had the knowledge/brain that I have now, in my 17/18 yr old body; I would have been 10x better my senior year of football….”
Hunter Johnson may have a similar feeling coming back to Clemson. My main point is, he was once a top tier HS QB. He had the misfortune of being outplayed by one of the best college QBs of all time showing up his sophomore year. He is the “old man” on the team now with no pressure on him.
If DJ looks like he did last year, and Cade isn’t quite ready; I wouldn’t be overly shocked if Hunter Johnson took the reigns and had a really good year.
I really need this season to start. The suspense is killing me.
|
|
|
|
 |
Orange Blooded [3102]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1694
Joined: 3/31/15
|
Come on people,
Jul 20, 2022, 10:47 AM
|
|
Have any of you thought this???
|
|
|
|
|
|
Walk-On [134]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 61
Joined: 8/26/13
|
Re: Come on people,
Jul 20, 2022, 10:50 AM
|
|
Not going to happen
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
bumping your own thread after 3 minutes?
Jul 20, 2022, 10:57 AM
[ in reply to Come on people, ] |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [38588]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5841
Joined: 12/8/20
|
Re: bumping your own thread after 3 minutes?
Jul 20, 2022, 4:38 PM
|
|
Maybe he is not "bumping (why) but joining a conversation he has interest in.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
So he's talking to himself?***
Jul 20, 2022, 4:52 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3102]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1694
Joined: 3/31/15
|
Re: So he's talking to himself?***
Jul 20, 2022, 5:23 PM
|
|
It’s better than playing with yourself….
Or is it?
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7219]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6986
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Re: So he's talking to himself?***
Jul 20, 2022, 5:24 PM
[ in reply to So he's talking to himself?*** ] |
|
Is that better or worse than dancing with yourself?
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [65321]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 33230
Joined: 12/3/03
|
I have thought about it, but unfortunately for us, my
Jul 20, 2022, 11:11 AM
[ in reply to Come on people, ] |
|
thoughts say that he had every chance in the world to succeed at Northwestern, for multiple seasons, and failed miserably. Thus, there is no rational reason to think that he would suddenly turn successful here. But, anything is possible, even if not probable, I guess.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [55369]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 58377
Joined: 7/18/07
|
Re: I have thought about it, but unfortunately for us, my
Jul 20, 2022, 11:21 AM
|
|
The system that's run from school to school could make or break a QB, and maybe the Northwestern system just wasn't a fit for Hunter, just as the The Chad's system wasn't a fit for Cole Stoudt.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1215]
TigerPulse: 56%
Posts: 1139
Joined: 10/2/21
|
Re: I have thought about it, but unfortunately for us, my
Jul 20, 2022, 8:20 PM
|
|
So true
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [24538]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15111
Joined: 2/13/15
|
Re: I have thought about it, but unfortunately for us, my
Jul 20, 2022, 7:15 PM
[ in reply to I have thought about it, but unfortunately for us, my ] |
|
thoughts say that he had every chance in the world to succeed at Northwestern, for multiple seasons, and failed miserably. Thus, there is no rational reason to think that he would suddenly turn successful here. But, anything is possible, even if not probable, I guess.
Man..... he had nowhere near the talent level at skill position @NU than he had @ CU....
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1215]
TigerPulse: 56%
Posts: 1139
Joined: 10/2/21
|
Re: I have thought about it, but unfortunately for us, my
Jul 20, 2022, 8:23 PM
|
|
You are Rooster fan admit it
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10822]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9006
Joined: 12/8/02
|
Nope. That dude is an INT machine***
Jul 20, 2022, 3:19 PM
[ in reply to Come on people, ] |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2669]
TigerPulse: 81%
Posts: 8366
Joined: 8/12/14
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 10:50 AM
|
|
I don't think he would be any worse than dj was last year.
If DJ doesn't significantly improve, I could see hunter johnson getting some PT.
Hunter Johnson was pretty bad at Northwestern as well, so I still don't think he would be a great option.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [27371]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 31823
Joined: 8/19/03
|
Personally
Jul 20, 2022, 10:54 AM
|
|
I think Dabo knows what he is doing.
That’s good enough for me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [32637]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14894
Joined: 6/29/11
|
And Street . . . . the turnaround for the bowl game of
Jul 20, 2022, 11:09 AM
|
|
Stoudt was enough for me to trust Street, too.
The dude gets it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1215]
TigerPulse: 56%
Posts: 1139
Joined: 10/2/21
|
Re: And Street . . . . the turnaround for the bowl game of
Jul 20, 2022, 8:26 PM
|
|
Chad stunk at OC tried to coach Stoudt as Watson. Streeter coach bowl game and Stoudt kicked butt
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3621]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3472
Joined: 12/1/19
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 10:56 AM
[ in reply to Re: Hunter Johnson ] |
|
I think Hunter and Cade will get playing time if/when a change at QB becomes obvious. We’ll know very early just how much progress has been made.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [53754]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 43551
Joined: 11/17/03
|
.....by the first half of the GT game.***
Jul 21, 2022, 9:34 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1215]
TigerPulse: 56%
Posts: 1139
Joined: 10/2/21
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 8:22 PM
[ in reply to Re: Hunter Johnson ] |
|
Northwestern didn’t have Offensive line or defense that Tigers did.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1938]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 2279
Joined: 1/13/18
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 21, 2022, 9:31 AM
|
|
Don’t be so cocky about that, Northwestern had a good team in 2020 and played Ohio State better than Clemson did. The Northwestern defense held the Buckeyes to 22 points while the Tigers nearly gave up 50
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7173]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6879
Joined: 1/25/17
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 21, 2022, 9:45 AM
|
|
Don’t be so cocky about that, Northwestern had a good team in 2020 and played Ohio State better than Clemson did. The Northwestern defense held the Buckeyes to 22 points while the Tigers nearly gave up 50
I +1 you.
Not being cocky about Northwestern at all. But, a couple of things. 1. Hunter was not the starting QB. 2. That was the Big 10 abbreviated season. I have attached a link of who all they played to get to a very good record. To include beating the brakes off of Auburn! Of course, that same year I think SCAR beat Auburn. That same year; didn't App go to Columbia and beat SCAR? Not sure about the year there.
Point being; i've never looked at a Big 10 schedule and went oh, that's an impossible slate of games. Maryland, Nebraska, Illinois, Purdue............come on.
https://nusports.com/sports/football/schedule/2020![]() The official 2020 Football schedule for the Northwestern University Wildcats
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3957]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3804
Joined: 8/6/13
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 11:03 AM
|
|
He’s here for one reason and one reason only. That’s to provide depth in case of emergency. He may not even be ahead to Hunter Helms. But he does provide knowledge and can show how to work. He’s going to be great for the QB room.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [111488]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 73725
Joined: 9/10/03
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 11:05 AM
|
|
He brings a clip board and a headset.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17766]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 16659
Joined: 9/1/12
|
Return of Clipboard Jesus?
Jul 20, 2022, 3:24 PM
|
|
Has he been growing his hair out? I think it would be great to have another CJ on the sideline.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4851]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3595
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Clipboard Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 5:21 PM
|
|
No.
No, that doesn't sound right
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [38588]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5841
Joined: 12/8/20
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 4:43 PM
[ in reply to Re: Hunter Johnson ] |
|
I disagree.
I hope he is not needed this season, but especially in the early games, he would be the best choice is DJU goes down.
He is a capable back up, something we lacked last season.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [111488]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 73725
Joined: 9/10/03
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 11:05 PM
|
|
The kid turns it over way too much. 7 TDs to 9 interceptions across three years, although that sounds a lot like Dj's stats from last year. His best year was his freshman season at Clemson.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [18786]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 12819
Joined: 11/30/95
|
Hunter Johnson gets significant playing time
Jul 20, 2022, 11:05 AM
|
|
when DJ, Cade, and Helms are all hurt at the same time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [19895]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 16717
Joined: 11/28/00
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 11:06 AM
|
|
Heh heh, the Joe Burro of 2022.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2336]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1302
Joined: 11/7/17
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 11:29 AM
|
|
I think you are on definitely onto something. The Oline is the key.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7969]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 10435
Joined: 11/28/03
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 11:34 AM
|
|
I think HJ was a great add but for leadership and stability....not for his play on the field. I may be full of it as usual but would expect Wiles and Helms to be on the field before HJ. Regardless if we get that deep in the depth chart we will surely not be having the season most of us expect.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2695]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1819
Joined: 6/30/13
|
Sure
Jul 20, 2022, 11:42 AM
|
|
It'd be a feel good story and real life can be stranger than fiction.
However, I don't think Hunter Johnson is a threat to take over unless we have worst case scenario happen.
HJ is at best 3rd but most likely 4th or 5th on the depth chart going into fall camp.
It'd be a cool story no doubt but HJ at this point should be considered more of a student-coach/insurance policy than a sleeper.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21815]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15701
Joined: 10/23/12
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 11:44 AM
|
|
LemonTiger® bumps their own thread after 3 minutes and then disappears when people actually start responding....
SMH
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3102]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1694
Joined: 3/31/15
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 4:13 PM
|
|
I had a break at work when I posted it, and became impatient. I leave for a couple of hours and everyone becomes a bunch of negative Nancy, Tigernet punctuality police!
P.S. I have given a TU to everyone who has called me out.
Message was edited by: LemonTiger®
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1790]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1112
Joined: 4/6/18
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 1:23 PM
|
|
I would think Hunter Helms is ahead of HuJo at this point (or by the time the season rolls around). It doesn't really matter, Dabo has the team in a much better position this season than last season. That is what counts.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4659]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 2298
Joined: 1/9/07
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 2:26 PM
|
|
I think Hunter is a "Coach in Waiting" as we have seen Dabo do over the years. He will be there to take over when Streeter moves on (or fails). He is a brilliant guy and it will be interesting to see what kind of coach he will make.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3639]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5124
Joined: 4/23/19
|
I like Hunter Johnson and wished him well...
Jul 20, 2022, 2:33 PM
|
|
when he left for Northwestern. He moved from my favorite CFB coach to my 2nd favorite coach.
But let's be real: Hunter flamed out so badly at Northwestern we better hope he doesn't see any meaningful time on the field.
Some 5-stars do well in college, some are complete busts. As good a guy as he is, Hunter falls into the latter category. This is not a reflection of his character, just results on the football field.
I believe he is a great young man and will succeed very well in life after football.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3102]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1694
Joined: 3/31/15
|
Re: I like Hunter Johnson and wished him well...
Jul 20, 2022, 4:16 PM
|
|
How often tho, has a college had 2 Five star QB (top of their position class type guys) be busts in a 3-4 year span. I would think that statistically DJ or HJ would have to play better with another chance. I am most excited about Cade with the little I have seen from anybody in that room, but won’t really know anything until Labor Day gets here.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [52184]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 23001
Joined: 10/10/11
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 3:29 PM
|
|
It's going to be between DJ and Cade. Cade is way too talented to take a back seat to Hunter. The competition he faced in HS was tops (or among the top) in the country. We know what DJ can do when healthy and confident.
|
|
|
|
|
|
MVP [541]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 785
Joined: 11/13/16
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 4:33 PM
|
|
I, too, was so disappointed by Hunter's performance at NW. But one thing that makes me think "hmm maybe??" about coming back to Clemson is this: Clemson has a MUCH higher caliber supporting cast than he had at NW. Not saying we win a natty - but he may could help us win a few games if he had to.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2845]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3012
Joined: 9/10/04
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 5:19 PM
|
|
His goal in returning was as a GA. Being added to the roster was a bonus. He will likely spend the season working as a suited up GA trying to learn the coaching side.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3102]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1694
Joined: 3/31/15
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 5:26 PM
|
|
I can see that, Or is he an insurance policy for a backup spot if/when Cade takes over and DJ enters the portal.
I don’t know. There are so many ways this QB spot could play out this season. It’s been the longest off season in over 10 years because 2021 was the first year in a long time that our offense was offensive.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1676]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 2113
Joined: 8/27/11
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 5:34 PM
|
|
He also said when he decided to come back his goal was to help out the younger guys and provide depth
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1215]
TigerPulse: 56%
Posts: 1139
Joined: 10/2/21
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 8:19 PM
|
|
KB was terrible the defense saved all of his games
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1215]
TigerPulse: 56%
Posts: 1139
Joined: 10/2/21
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 20, 2022, 8:28 PM
|
|
I told Dabo at Prowl Growl in Aiken we were one player away from Natty if Chad leaves. We he went to SMU the National Championships came
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7173]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6879
Joined: 1/25/17
|
Lemon Tiger. . . . . ."beautiful logic" but
Jul 21, 2022, 8:58 AM
|
|
Lemon Tiger - I hope you are right! I sincerely do; if the situations you gave are the case and DJU is struggling and Cade isn't quite ready.
Hunter has no Trevor standing over his shoulder now.
Hunter has much better personnel around him now than he did at NW.
Hunter is comfortable now; no pressure if he doesn't start.
He is a very nice 5-star insurance policy. I wouldn't doubt if he saw DJU struggle last season and said; I could have helped. It should be interesting no doubt. If nothing else; he will push the other two to become better. Kyle Richardson is a QB whisperer - who I am hoping has a decent amount of time with the QB's and not just the TE's. This will be key as our passing game should look a bit different this season. There will be air raid concepts combined with some of the HUNH spread stuff. Which should make the offense much more explosive.
I can't wait. A little competition is good for DJU and Cade; so I hope this beautiful thought has teeth enough to at least push those other QB's. Good Post Lemon Tiger!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [805]
TigerPulse: 83%
Posts: 816
Joined: 10/15/13
|
Re: Hunter Johnson
Jul 21, 2022, 10:24 AM
|
|
I think you mean “reins” not “reigns.”
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 48
| visibility 1
|
|
|
50
