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How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball?
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How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball?


Jan 18, 2018, 9:23 AM

I am pretty sure I read that he (him or family) received $100,000 from Adidas and was set up with an agent and shoe.

I know the coots use UA, but their ex assistant was one of the coaches arrested by the FBI. Yes, I get ex coach and different athletic wear company, but still.

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Unless something is changed, he still has to be reinstated


Jan 18, 2018, 9:29 AM

by the NCAA. But yes, it's a really bad look for a school who employed one of the FBI investigated coaches to recruit and land the kid that was at the center of the FBI investigation.

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:04 AM

Just ask Josh Kendall at The State. Nothing to see here.

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From what I understand he has not been cleared yet, and even


Jan 18, 2018, 9:30 AM

if he is given OK, he could not play until next winter, because of transfer requirements. He should not be a factor in Zion's recruitment, if he is then the spotlight on him, will also shine on Zion, and I think he and his backers are smart, including his stepfather, a former Tiger, enough to realize that?

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:44 AM

Kids make mistakes. If you are 18 and somebody offers to give you $100,000 do you not take it? He should get another chance for sure imo.

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:47 AM

It was my understanding that the money was offered ($100,000) and paid (apparently only $25,000) to the father and that the son did not receive any money.

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:56 AM

If that is the case I feel even worse for the kid.

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:47 AM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

Is that really your logic? Ignorance is no excuse and furthermore he couldn't have waited a year before he started making millions in the NBA?

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:52 AM

He is an 18 year old kid and idk anything about him but if he came from a low class family I don't think that is ignorant. If somebody offered me $100,000 I would take it now. It isn't like he stole money somebody gave it. I don't like it if that was the lone reason he went to UL but still not the kids fault IMO.

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Jan 18, 2018, 11:45 AM

Source please?

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:27 PM

Source about what?

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:31 PM

My source question was not for you, but if you have any let us know. Thanks for asking.

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Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball?


Jan 18, 2018, 12:40 PM

Okay?

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Jan 18, 2018, 11:51 AM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

Ok, so he was ignorant to the rules. Surely he had some adults with half a brain that he was consulting during his recruiting... like, say, his coach. You know that most every kid in his situation knows full well that it's wrong to take money.

Also, seems odd that you excuse it because it was such a large amount. So if it was only $1000 and he took it, you would consider him guilty? Seems backwards to me.


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Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball?


Jan 18, 2018, 12:23 PM

So where did I say that if it was less it wouldn't be okay? Lmao. I think if somebody wants to give you money you should be able to take it. Now if the coach gave him money to come play for him that is wrong but I don't think he should never be able to play again. I am pretty sure he knew it was wrong obviously. That doesn't mean he should never get to play college basketball. He is a kid and they offered him that much money and you want him to make a decision that would be hard for many 40 year old men to make.

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Jan 18, 2018, 1:45 PM

You can have the opinion that if someone wants to give you money you should be able to take it, however, that is against the current rules and is therefore a violation for which you have to have a punishment for.

That's like saying I believe I should be able to go past the speed limit on the interstate, but if a cop pulls me over I'm not gonna be mad at him because those are the rules.

He is already going to be a year removed from high school so I'm not even seeing the point of his transfer if he was going to be a one and done kid anyways.

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Jan 18, 2018, 8:41 PM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

Hasn’t scar gotten several players involved in the scandal. Between them and the percentage that don’t speak English be hard to coach

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:49 AM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

No , you do not ? Did you earn it ? Whay are they offering me 100,000 dollars ? Why are they telling me to keep it a secret ?
..why does Frank Martin look like an Italian
vampire ?

All relevant questions for young Mr. Bowen .

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:55 AM

I am not saying it is the right thing to do but depending on where he came from and how money was in his life I couldn't blame him if he was from a poor family. No you can all pretend or say y'all would make a different choice when you were 18 but I doubt any of us have ever been in that situation to judge him and ruin his life possible.

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Jan 18, 2018, 11:59 AM

Please spare me this crap about the kid and his possible financial conditions. If anybody had an excuse to shop his services it was DW4. Yet he did it the right way, so come on wake up and stop making excuses for him. (Bowen) He probably should be in jail for racketeering!!!

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:34 PM

Lmao you are pathetic dude. Just because one kid doesn't make a mistake does not mean another should be punished for life for a mistake they make. I think he should have to sit out a year but to take his dream of playing college basketball away forever is heartless. You make mistakes you should get punished for it ofcourse but you also deserve a second chance. Let's not compare everybody to dW. We are all bad people if we are going to do that lol.

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Jan 18, 2018, 1:01 PM

If ignorance is a state of bliss you must live in a constant state of sublime exuberance.

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Jan 18, 2018, 1:16 PM

Nope just not a person who thinks it is okay to ruin a life based on a mistake.

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Jan 18, 2018, 1:49 PM

Don't act like his life is ruined lol. I'm sure the millions he will make in professional basketball will dry his tears of not playing in college.

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Jan 18, 2018, 2:30 PM

Many kids dream of playing college basketball. Not his life ruined but something he may have dreamed about. If he can just go to the NBA next year idk why he doesn't unless he really wants to play college basketball.

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Jan 18, 2018, 2:39 PM

Millions of kids dream of playing college/pro sports, the ones less fortunate in athletic traits seem to do fine after they wake up from that dream, without getting paid, so I think he will be ok.

And yes, he is NBA eligible this summer.

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Jan 18, 2018, 6:08 PM

Yes he will be okay. That doesn't make it right to not let him play.

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Jan 18, 2018, 8:23 PM

He gambled with his opportunity to play college basketball and lost, imo. If the dream to play COLLEGE BASKETBALL was so grand to him then he should not took that risk. He obviously did not respect the order of things. He is an adult and knew exactly what he was chancing; he just didn't expect to get caught, but he did and should face the consequences for his actions. Giving him a pass sends the wrong message to everyone. There are rules in place for good reasons. What would the point of even having the rules if they are not enforced? He would be losing the college experience, the thing he chose to wager away, not doing life in prison.

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Jan 18, 2018, 8:39 PM

You can have that opinion if you want and I respect you all for it. I do think he should have to suffer consequences. I just think he should get another chance. He should have never been tempted with money from grown men to put him in that situation. He should have to sit out but he also should get another chance after he learns what he did was wrong. I understand your side of it I just do not think he should have ever been put in that situation.

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:59 PM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

I believe that Bowen is a 5* recruit. If so, he has been told repeatedly what is acceptable recruiting tactics. No son, you can't accept a free hat, you can't have a meal with that alumni, and you surely can't drive that asst coaches car home, but you can take the $100,000.00 that Adidas wants to give you to go to school X.

If he has to sit out a year, i guess that would make him eligible for the NBA draft. Maybe abetter route for him to take would be to work his ### off to get ready for the draft. Or, better yet, he could go to Lithuania and play pro this year with the Ball brothers.

Just don't stink up college b'ball anymore than he already has.

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:49 AM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

Sure he can take the $100,000.00, but his eligibility is shot immediately, kaput, can't play amateur sports at the NCAA level EVER! That's the rule, he knew it and willingly went along as well as his guardians. There are consequences to choices and in this case his eligibility is that punishment.

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Jan 18, 2018, 9:53 AM

Lol he is an 18 year old kid.

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:47 PM

I have a friend who was shot down three times flying Dustoff missions in Vietnam Republic of. LOL he was just an 18 year old kid!


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Jan 18, 2018, 1:20 PM

I am sorry for that. Does not mean anything about this situation. 18 year old kids are not going to make the right decisions all the time. Maybe that had something to do with it.

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:32 PM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

I feel for your kids if you have any.

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:25 AM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

The idea that anyone who accepts cash to play should get a second chance to play at the amateur level is extremely flawed. First of all, you give up your amateur status by definition as soon as you accept payment. Secondly, that would enable people to accept money all the time and then if they get caught plead for a second change. You can't set that precedent.

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:27 AM

Well is he eligible to go to the NBA after this year?

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:33 AM

Yes

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:23 PM

That is good for him.

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:50 AM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

I don't know about you but I didn't get involved in a money laundering scheme when I was 18.

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:24 PM

Probably because you were not good enough at something for somebody to offer you that much money to come do something. Not hating I wasn't either.

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Jan 18, 2018, 1:21 PM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

Were you good enough at something for anybody to offer you $100,000?

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:46 PM

Of course not, but to say that he only made a mistake is a giant oversimplification.

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:28 PM [ in reply to Re: How can Bowen be eligible to play College Basketball? ]

With your logic Cam Newton would have been eligible to play for allbarn. Oh wiat a minute...

Seems like the rules would apply to all. This is a clear case of pay for play and as such he should not have eligibility for amature sports. Sometimes the NCAA buries their head and it is possible they will here as well. He is guilty in my opinion and should not play.

Maybe your username should have been a tip off to your opinion on this $$$ :)

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:42 PM

I think he should have to sit out a year for sure. I do not think he should have his dream of playing college basketball taken because some grown man gave him money when he is an 18 year old kid. Sorry I believe in second chances. People make mistakes.

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He is using the old Sgt. Schultz defense. "I know nothingk!"


Jan 18, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:05 AM

Probably will involve cooperating with the NCAA like the Mississippi state linebacker.

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Jan 18, 2018, 10:18 AM

Well , Martin has certainly shown in his career what a marvelous rules follower he is .



Cough * Udonis Haslem

Cough * Steve Blake

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there is a gray area here - did he know or not?


Jan 18, 2018, 1:22 PM

the onus will be on him to prove he didn't as far as the NCAA is concerned. If the kid's father is a POS doesn't necessarily mean he is. His statement to the FBI would help as there are perjury implications there and I'm sure they've looked at all his texts. The problem is the FBI isn't going to share that info with the NCAA, the NCAA will have to wait until it comes to trial or released via info request which will be blocked until the case is resolved. He said from the get go that he didn't know that his father was offered $ and doesn't think he took it. If the father really went behind his back then he should probably be allowed to play again. Maybe 2 year penalty(1 for the transfer and 1 for the infraction IMO). Enough teeth to make sure future parents know they are really screwing with their kids future. If he knew and there is proof, then he shouldn't be allowed to play at all at a D1 School and any school that risked playing him should be subject to major infractions if it comes out that he did.

Curious to know-- is UCS still under any 2nd offense time windows for major infractions in other sports? Pretty dumb to even be messing with this if they are. Pretty desperate regardless.

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Jan 18, 2018, 5:04 PM

I think what's most likely to happen is that the NCAA slowplays the whole reinstatement issue and tries to essentially force his hand and have him declare for the draft this spring. If he's a good as the coots believe he is he'll probably go anyways, but it would be the perfect way for the NCAA to get what they probably want with him not playing accomplished without ever having to render a decision.

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Jan 18, 2018, 8:39 PM

Would he not have to sit out a year for transferring

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Jan 18, 2018, 12:47 PM

I don't think so, because he never was officially part of the team. Practice begins something like 40 days before (30 practices) a team's first competition (game). I'm not sure if the proposed 42 days before was voted on or approved/when it would go into effect. U of L's first game was on 11-12-17. The scandal broke on 9-29-17, I believe.

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