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Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 7:20 AM
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thus far? I know the loss to ND was disappointing and avoidable but overall are you happy with where we are at?
I, personally, am very happy. 10-1 and still a chance to play in the CFP. I think we should be undefeated, but I am not disappointed with how the season has been thus far. I honestly expected to be 9-2 at this point before the season started.
I do get it and I understand why many are disappointed.
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Yes
Nov 22, 2022, 7:21 AM
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Enjoy the journey.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 7:25 AM
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Folks are disappointed because they have grown privileged and spoiled instead of thankful. What’s worse is they believe they know more about how to make the program elite than the only coach who actually made us elite. It’s weird that they want us to mimic the coot program by hiring outside coaches, load up from the portal and rotate QBs. Seems counterintuitive to me but what do I know
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 7:57 AM
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Not what most are saying. No one is upset, unhappy that we're 10-1.
Disappointing, yes. I'll admit that I am. After last year and returning the players that we have and they were healthy... I was convinced this was going to be our "uga " season of last year. Just dominating defense to the point even teams like uga, osu or Tennessee, Bama etc would be shut down.
That being said, there was much discussion in the off season that maybe we should use the portal to get some cornerback experience as well as utilizing the portal to get an experienced center and depth at wr. Granted, there's no guarantee that would have changed where we are now. .
Same anticipation and excitement that our offense being dj or cade would click like our offense did from 2015-2020. It hasn't. Gotten better than last year, yes.
Disappointed from the standpoint that we're not a lock for the cfp and even the number 1 seed. I guess if that's being spoiled so be it, call me spoiled. Kudos to all of you that posted last January that where we are now is where you wanted us to be. Please share if you did.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 8:41 AM
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Clemgal - it is definitely not what you are saying but there are quite a few folks on here who jump at any opportunity to criticize Dabo’s promotions, lack of portal use, DJ’s play, and the play calling. The “we’re not unhappy to be 10-1 but it’s how we got here crowd”. Just watch if we happen to slip up and lose another game. They will come out of the woodwork like they did after ND and like they do during any close game. And they will all be smarter than the coaches and brutal to the players. These are the folks Dabo was talking about when he said there were people pulling for DJ to fail. They want to be the first to say I told you so. And there are more of them than you are admitting.
Everyone wants to be undefeated in January. Heck, even coot fans and Cleveland Browns fans are optimistic in the off season. The difference is Clemson actually has a chance to do it. We would all rather be undefeated now too, but going undefeated with any regularity is an unrealistic expectation. I am happy with the season so far. I would be happier if we were undefeated. If we win the next 2 games I will consider it a pretty good year. If we do that and win the closer regardless of whether it is the Natty or a high tier bowl, we will have achieved all of Dabo’s goals and that would make me very happy.
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And all of that should be criticized!
Nov 22, 2022, 2:12 PM
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You people love to think that any criticism is simply anti-Clemson or anti-ACC and that’s just retarded! Pretty much every expert has a Lotta criticism and if you haven’t noticed how poor we play on the field how terrible we look at times against bad teams then you’re not paying attention or you don’t know a #### thing about football.
We are nowhere close to where we were three years ago. And it’s because we’re not using the portal and losing a lot of players because of turnover and the playcalling has been BS and we have looked like crap on the field against bad and mediocre teams.
I’m absolutely happy with the record. Although we are a much better team than Notre Dame and should not have lost that game, but other than that, the record is great. But as a team we’re not a top tier team. The only reason we are top 10 team is because there just aren’t many really great teams. We’re not even close to where we were three years ago. And that is 100% because of decisions made by Dabo.
Saturday’s game against Miami is really the first game this season where I thought the coaching was spot on and the office of playcalling was good. We should’ve blown Miami out in the first half but the problem Saturday was execution by the players. An execution by the players has been a big problem all year, but there have been far other problems visible all season to anyone that has even the slightest understanding of football.
Clearly people like you are happy with the past and all you care about is the win and loss record. Clearly you don’t actually understand football and can’t see that the product on the field has deteriorated significantly from three years ago. Because if you understood those things you would not be bothered by constructive criticism by people like me and others because it is completely deserved and appropriate!
People like you think we should just kiss Dabo’s ### and say thank you and move along. No. The man makes $9 million a year and represents the university I graduated from and his salary comes from our money and we absolutely positively have the right to have certain expectations.
Do you think that if Alabama or Clemson started losing games and not being in the top tier of football that people would keep spending their money their hard earned money especially in a bad economy and keep showing up and packing the stadium? Do you think the TV networks are going to want our games in the prime slots? Do you think people would care and want to watch our games? I hate to break it to you, but The answer to all of those questions is no! Because they don’t care about the past. But people like you on this forum are perfectly satisfied with the past and we should just tell Dabo thank you and shut up. Sorry. It doesn’t work that way. As long as Dabo is getting paid what he’s getting paid he better keep winning on the field at a very high-level and the product on the field better look like a quality product. Right now it does not!
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 10:35 AM
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TU for the thoughtful, well stated response. If every Clemson fan was able to articulate and explain themselves like this we’d all be better off. Go Tigers!
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It’s hard to be unhappy with another ten win season.***
Nov 22, 2022, 7:29 AM
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Re: It’s hard to be unhappy with another ten win season.***
Nov 22, 2022, 7:30 AM
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^^^^^^^ This!
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 7:32 AM
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I’ve always wanted to see the Tigers win every game. For the first 25 years that I watched the tigers take the field a win was always possible, but not always very probable. Had someone told me at the end of the 2010 season that we were fixing to witness 12 straight 10+ win seasons and 2 national championships, I would’ve thought they were nuts. The last 10 years have certainly been easier to watch than the first 25. So yes, I am happy with 10-1 going into the annual rivalry game.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 7:39 AM
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I’m pleased with the season overall. I trust Dabo’s instincts relative to his staffing decisions and have some patience with the young coordinators. The chief disappointment is the slow development shown by DJ. He was “all world” coming out of high school. Whatever has been limiting him is debatable. Even if his qb skills fall short of expectations, he has exhibited good leadership and has won the loyalty of his teammates. This, along with 10-1 ain’t too bad.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 7:42 AM
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100% happy. No one wants to lose a game but that is unrealistic. If it was so easy at the end of the season there would be 130 teams with a no lost season.
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Thats probably the dumbest post Ive ever read on TNET
Nov 22, 2022, 8:23 AM
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And thats saying something. Congrats, I guess?
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 7:46 AM
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It's been a great season. 10-1 so far... wow!!!
Go Tigers!!! Beat Carolina!!!
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 7:47 AM
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“Where we are AT”? My old English teacher would have rapped your knuckles for saying that.
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Has been a great ride so far. Much appreciation for all the
Nov 22, 2022, 7:48 AM
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dedication and effort & sacrifice by our team & staff.
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Yes and no. I am pleased we are 12-1 with a chance
Nov 22, 2022, 7:54 AM
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at the playoff (albeit an outside chance, but a chance nonetheless). I’m any year, that is something to celebrate. However I’m a little disappointed we aren’t undefeated. I’ll never expect the team to be undefeated because that is rare, however this year the ACC is hot garbage, so it would have been a ripe year to go undefeated. Still a great season and overall I’m happy.
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10-1***
Nov 22, 2022, 7:59 AM
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You had the right state-of-mind…nothing wrong with that***
Nov 22, 2022, 8:16 AM
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Re: Yes and no. I am pleased we are 12-1 with a chance
Nov 22, 2022, 9:39 AM
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at the playoff (albeit an outside chance, but a chance nonetheless). I’m any year, that is something to celebrate. However I’m a little disappointed we aren’t undefeated. I’ll never expect the team to be undefeated because that is rare, however this year the ACC is hot garbage, so it would have been a ripe year to go undefeated. Still a great season and overall I’m happy.
The fact that you called the ACC hot garbage indicates you may be a coot. The ACC has several good teams this year. Had Cuse and Nancy St not lost their QBs to injury and UNC crapped the bed against the nerds it would have been a really good year for the ACC.
FSU best the SEC West Champion. Pitt took Tenn to the brink. Nancy St, UNC and Cuse much improved. GT playing better ball since ditching their Waffle House promoting HC. Wake was more than solid.
The only thing we really needed was to have one more elite team which was suppose to be the Holes until the Nerds whacked them with their slide rules
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we are not "unhappy" with the results. We are unhappy
Nov 22, 2022, 8:01 AM
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with the direction the program is heading.
dabo is a moran making stupid decisions. The coaches don't know how to call plays, They don't use the portal. They are Too loyal to players. They seem to Care about grades , character, and stupid stuff like that.
You unintelligent pumper football apologists are all giddy about 10 wins but us realists see the writing on the wall. Don't get mad at the truth. I've been a fan for 320 years and i own 3 Clemson jerseys so i know my stuff.
Every team in the top 15 would dominate Clemson in a bowl game.. I'd rather just skip bowls and knit sweaters over the holidays than see Clemson lose a football game. SCar is going to drop 500 on this stupid , soft defense. Now, this is a story all about how My life got flipped-turned upside down.
And I'd like to take a minute Just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air
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Re: we are not "unhappy" with the results. We are unhappy
Nov 22, 2022, 8:09 AM
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with the direction the program is heading.
dabo is a moran making stupid decisions. The coaches don't know how to call plays, They don't use the portal. They are Too loyal to players. They seem to Care about grades , character, and stupid stuff like that.
You unintelligent pumper football apologists are all giddy about 10 wins but us realists see the writing on the wall. Don't get mad at the truth. I've been a fan for 320 years and i own 3 Clemson jerseys so i know my stuff.
Every team in the top 15 would dominate Clemson in a bowl game.. I'd rather just skip bowls and knit sweaters over the holidays than see Clemson lose a football game. SCar is going to drop 500 on this stupid , soft defense. Now, this is a story all about how My life got flipped-turned upside down.
And I'd like to take a minute Just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air
Bro… I got some extra Xanax if you want… lemme know and I’ll send it your way
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hell yeah !!!!!!!!
Nov 22, 2022, 8:16 AM
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send it
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
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Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone... [2]
Nov 22, 2022, 7:20 AM
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thus far? I know the loss to ND was disappointing and avoidable but overall are you happy with where we are at?
I, personally, am very happy. 10-1 and still a chance to play in the CFP. I think we should be undefeated, but I am not disappointed with how the season has been thus far. I honestly expected to be 9-2 at this point before the season started.
I do get it and I understand why many are disappointed.
THE REASON SOME ARE DISSAPOINTED IS THEY ARE SPOILED PATHETIC MORONS WHO HAVE NO LIFE. IT IS VERY SAD. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF TEAMS THAT WOULD GIVE THEIR LEFT NUT TO BE WHERE WE ARE AS A PROGRAM. NOBODY IS PERFECT. BUT IF YOU ARE NOT ENJOYING THIS RUN YOU ARE BEYOND HELP.
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Better run and check, I think they are repo'ing your trailer***
Nov 22, 2022, 8:25 AM
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 8:10 AM
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Great performance on Offense vs. Wake. Notre Dame was so much more physical and hungrier than the Tigers. Not competitive. In the rest of the games, the vastly more talented Tiger recruits have given enough to win and dance vs. ACC. Dabo states his head is not in the sand with this team for some reason. Will the Tigers have gas in the tank the rest of the season? The last three games - this is where the season will be determined and judged by all.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 8:13 AM
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Absolutely pleased. There are over 125 D1 teams and after this week there could only be 1, 2 or 3 undefeated. We have a chance to be 11-1 which will be quite an accomplishment.
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Stupid post. There are not 125 teams with our talent
Nov 22, 2022, 8:26 AM
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Some of you have the brain power of a pop tart.
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Re: Stupid post. There are not 125 teams with our talent
Nov 22, 2022, 9:40 AM
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So would the only reasonable expectation be to win every single game from now until the end of time?
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Its reasonable to expect to beat teams youre better than
Nov 22, 2022, 9:52 AM
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Which, on one hand we have done, outside of ND - still pretty bewildered at how and why we were so utterly uncompetitive there against a very pedestrian ND team. But using Tommy Bowden logic like, half the team lose every week or there are 130 other teams that would love to have our record....its just silly, frankly comically so.
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Re: Its reasonable to expect to beat teams youre better than
Nov 22, 2022, 10:00 AM
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Well, based on what I saw, we were not better than ND that night. Thanks for the explanation though, I guess I will go stick my head back in the toaster with the rest of the pop tarts for brains TNetters that not unhappy with being 10-1. Have a good rest of your week!
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 8:16 AM
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I'm satisfied and happy. Now finish STRONG!
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 8:21 AM
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I am relatively happy, and if we win out, even if we don't make the playoff, I will consider it a very successful season. It will be impressive.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 8:24 AM
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Agree 100%
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In 2011 Dabo was able to look beyond the wins/losses....
Nov 22, 2022, 8:30 AM
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and accomplishments to improve his program.
we won 10 games for the first time in decades.
we won the ACC the first time in decades.
Dabo was STILL able to look at the program at a micro level and make the necessary changes when things weren't clicking by firing Kevin Steele...........same the year before with bringing in Chad morris after an awful 2010 offensive performance.
The current record is good.......just like back in 2011
The offense is not good and definitely not the "best is the standard" good.
If he makes the necesary changes to get the offense back to elite.......I'll be pleased........whatever that may be.......not confident he will, but we'll see..........
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Re: In 2011 Dabo was able to look beyond the wins/losses....
Nov 22, 2022, 11:09 AM
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and accomplishments to improve his program.
we won 10 games for the first time in decades.
we won the ACC the first time in decades.
Dabo was STILL able to look at the program at a micro level and make the necessary changes when things weren't clicking by firing Kevin Steele...........same the year before with bringing in Chad morris after an awful 2010 offensive performance.
The current record is good.......just like back in 2011
The offense is not good and definitely not the "best is the standard" good.
If he makes the necesary changes to get the offense back to elite.......I'll be pleased........whatever that may be.......not confident he will, but we'll see..........
The necessary changes? What would you consider necessary changes? If you are expecting a coach will be fired you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Streeter is a step up from Eliott. CJ is a great coach but has not found his groove on the recruiting circuit. Grisham is a product of NIL preventing us from landing the elite WR and a couple of guys who have not panned out. Sometimes it happens.
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Re: In 2011 Dabo was able to look beyond the wins/losses....
Nov 22, 2022, 11:43 AM
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Dabo has built this program to be better than “a step up from Tony Elliott”. Streeter should’ve never been given the OC job to start with. We all saw what a Tony Elliott offense looked like without Jeff Scott input.
Jury is still out on CJ but as you said he “hasn’t found his groove”………yet again this isn’t a “learn on the job” program anymore.
You can excuse Grisham all you want but no matter how you slice it Grisham has been extraordinarily bad in developing our WRs and recruiting our WRs. Our talent at WR right now is at a 10-11 year low. Again, this isn’t a “learn on the job” program anymore.
We’ve been told that Best is the standard, but that’s not what Dabo practices when it comes to hiring/promoting.
Maybe he gets it fixed and maybe not but our offense has been in decline since 2019 LSU.
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Yes!
Nov 22, 2022, 8:52 AM
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As frustrating as ND was....after last year....we're right where I thought we may be.
JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER!!
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 9:10 AM
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I am ecstatic. I wonder how long the success will last and was scared that last season was like an unrecoverable stall in a plane. Sometimes things gradually go downhill at first and then suddenly you fall off the cliff. I was worried we skipped the gradual part and went straight to falling off the cliff. It’s hard to recover from an offensive face plant like that. We definitely haven’t fully recovered but there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Being miserable at 10-1 is out of my area of understanding.
Nov 22, 2022, 9:15 AM
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We can improve in all areas, but dang if I let that sour my enjoyment of this season.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 9:21 AM
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Everyone should be extremely grateful for being 10-1, and if you're not you're probably a post 2015 fan. I do feel like the offense has underachieved since the 2018 national championship but Dabo has earned the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 9:28 AM
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I’m happy at 10-1, but ND was winnable. I don’t think our coaches had the team prepared well enough.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 9:22 AM
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I am thrilled with how this season has gone so far and delighted in the massive improvement in DJ- I don't cringe when he snaps the ball lol!
Seriously, credit to the coaches and DJ for the work they put in.
While the defense hasn't been as awesome as we thought, they have had plenty of game winning performances.
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AND I would sign up to be 10-1 next season at this time too!***
Nov 22, 2022, 9:37 AM
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I'm pleased that DJ looked like a D1 QB for an entire half.***
Nov 22, 2022, 10:05 AM
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Re: Only disappointment was the poor showing at ND.....
Nov 22, 2022, 10:10 AM
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pretty clear the coaches didn't have our guys ready to play.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 10:32 AM
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Very pleased with the record thus far. Still a couple games to go before I finalize my opinion. Fact that we have a chance to win the ACC, finish 12-1… I’ll sign up for that any season. I somewhat understand some folks having a reasonable level of frustration with our play at times. ND game was atrocious. Our coordinators are in their first year, our players are still 18-22 year old college players, albeit many are highly ranked recruits. But I honestly don’t understand how anyone could not be pleased with the record and that we’re at least in the CFP discussion. Definitely feels like a season where we have easily been 9-2 at this point.
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2 Different Perspectives
Nov 22, 2022, 10:44 AM
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1. Looking at the year as a whole feels a whole lot better than experiencing it game by game.
We're 10-1 and with a few breaks could potentially play ourselves into a CFP game. The home streak survives into next year should we take care of business this weekend.
2. Having experienced every game so far, there are certainly some nag points that can easily taint the view of the year.
Our offense disappearing for a quarter or more.
Our defense not shutting out every opponent.
Our QB not showing out like past stars.
Our WRs not flying down the field and catching every throw.
Our coaches not giving us confidence they are going to fix the issue.
However, once we get past all that, I find it hard to believe this year hasn't been a success. Could it be better... sure! But we're as good as it gets with 1 loss being 10-1.
We have at least 3 games left in our season with the State and ACC Championships on our plates so I'm just going to appreciate the Clemson football we have left!
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 11:15 AM
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If we beat the Coots and Holes this will be a good season. Lose to either and the season goes down the tubes. So far we have way more talent than any team on the schedule. So finishing 12-1 is good but slipping down a notch the last 2 season’s is somewhat worrisome because the play is totally different now .
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 11:27 AM
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happy to be undefeated in the conference, but except for the last two games, this team has just been hard to watch - glad DJ improved from an atrocious season a year ago - but this team has a long way to go - nothing has come easy for them - outplayed by Furman and struggled mightily most of the year
#### a Doodle Do
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 11:30 AM
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Our record is about the best we could have expected.
The defensive struggles at times have been frustrating.
The offense at times has been frustrating to watch.
I'm blaming the offense on the receivers more than DJ but he does still have his "### was that" moments especially with the fumbles.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 11:33 AM
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Yes, winning football games is hard we have achieved all of our goals to date. All we can do is win our last two games and see how it shakes out.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 1:35 PM
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After last season if you'd told me we would be 10-1 at this point and that if we win our last two we had a decent shot to make the playoffs I'd be pretty happy. Offense, and DJ, has been better than I expected this season although the defense has been worse. Glad we've rebounded and hopefully we can be pretty good again next season.
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Re: Honestly, are you pleased with how the seasons has gone...
Nov 22, 2022, 1:54 PM
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For me, the worst thing about the ND loss was not losing the game; it was that we showed up uninspired and unprepared to give our best. ND wanted it more and played like it meant something to them. I still don't believe they are the better team but that night, they were. Not so much in talent but in the desire to win. I put some of that on the players and a lot of that on the coaches.
Am I pleased with how the season has gone? Yes, I am. Are there things I wish we would look at a little differently? There are. Do I wish we'd pay a little more attention to the portal? I do, because I think some real talent has been available that other top programs have taken advantage of.
Do I wish Dabo would have at least entertained and interviewed some top talent coordinators who might have been available, just to compare them with the guys he wanted? I do. Maybe the result would have been the same but I just felt that the Clemson program is a destination opportunity and many good coaches would have probably loved to have been considered.
Do I wish we could have worked Cade more into the rotation and gotten him some real experience this year to help him prepare to lead next year? I do. I know some will say we play situational football and the opportunities weren't there but I don't know if I really believe that. I think we could have found some for him if we made that more of a priority.
Having said all of this does not mean I don't believe in Dabo nor does it mean I am ungrateful for all he has done for us. For me, it is just that he has taken us to the mountaintop twice in his tenure and I for one happen to enjoy the view from there and want to see us get back there again.
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ALL IN GO DABO - GO TIGERS***
Nov 22, 2022, 2:20 PM
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Yes. Happy. Yes.***
Nov 22, 2022, 2:22 PM
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