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Orange Blooded [2367]
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Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 8:47 AM
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I’ve heard this for many years. Even some UGA fans have whispered it.
I have way more Clemson friends and at least 75% say it.
If the answer is “yes” how does UGA get away with it?
On a personal note, I’ve already worked out for 90 minutes and felt really strong today. Got up 305 on bench twice and almost a 3rd time. At 6-1 and 186 not too shabby. Hey, I pay the price and it shows when I walk around - it feels good to get comments!
Playing Cateechee today!! Hope everyone has a great day!!
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 8:54 AM
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CU Medallion [64519]
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According to Rush Propst, Georgia is paying players.
Mar 26, 2021, 8:55 AM
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There is also some pretty compelling evidence that Cade Mays was given a nice plat of hunting land in exchange for his signature.
My question is, did he have to give the land back when his parents filed their law suite against the University and Cade transferred to Tennessee.
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Re: According to Rush Propst, Georgia is paying players.
Mar 26, 2021, 1:10 PM
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did mrs. williamson give back the goodies after zion left dook?
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 8:58 AM
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Wasn't there some HS coach caught on tape saying that Georgia does?
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Orange Blooded [2367]
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Yes, there was and that was disturbing
Mar 26, 2021, 9:03 AM
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It raises red flags and looks bad for UGA
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Oculus Spirit [96809]
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I have no idea if UGa is giving recruits "incentives" to
Mar 26, 2021, 10:17 AM
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play in Athens, but I don't consider that HS sleazebag coach to be credible.
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Re: I have no idea if UGa is giving recruits "incentives" to
Mar 26, 2021, 10:22 AM
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I HAVE AN IDEA. IT IS A DEFINITE YES. THEY ARE REALLY CHEATING NOW BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT ALREADY. NOTHING TO LOSE AT THIS POINT.
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Re: I have no idea if UGa is giving recruits "incentives" to
Mar 26, 2021, 10:35 AM
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Re: I have no idea if UGa is giving recruits "incentives" to
Mar 26, 2021, 11:40 AM
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THAT'S HIS "SIGNATURE", HE YELLS. 
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I'm pretty sure a lot of players receive some sort of "pay"
Mar 26, 2021, 10:00 AM
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for compensation for committing. Not every school and not accusing Uga.
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 10:08 AM
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I have no evidence, but they have to pay their players. Why else would anyone want to play in Athens?
Just kidding Bulldog. I love our rivalry and wish it was every year again.
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 10:18 AM
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The Zion case pushed me to the point where I believe that nearly all big-time athletes are being paid - whether directly by the schools, indirectly by agents of the schools, or by sponsors (or their agents). Whether UGa has a bagman or whether Nike pays the athlete to go to Athens seems immaterial to me, but particularly challenging for the NCAA to enforce. Further, as the NCAA is greatly enriched by this golden goose, my opinion is they have little interest in actual enforcement and more interest in the optics and controlling the narrative.
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Nike/Duke were absolutely paying Zion and his family...
Mar 26, 2021, 11:27 AM
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and kickbacks were going to the NCAA in exchange for them looking the other way and effectively ignoring it.
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 10:36 AM
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As far as I know, NCAA rules allow all schools to pay stipends unless that has changed so if that is the case, yes Georgia pays players and so do we.
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 10:47 AM
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The got away with it in earlier years because they did a great job of covering it up but lately they have gotten more sloppy.
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 12:08 PM
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Maybe not in 1990
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 12:15 PM
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The real question is if they are, does it really matter, given they don’t know how to win?
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First of all Dawg congrats on your bench press !
Mar 26, 2021, 12:19 PM
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At 186 throwing around 300lbs is awesome! When I played football in college our strength coach told us to pick a weight we could bench for a set of 20.
My roommate and spotter knew I could bench 225 for forever so we put 315 on the bar. Coach saw this and decided to make an example of me in an attempt to embarrass me in front of the team.
He said for every rep I missed the team had to run a mile. Yeah he was a ########. I didn’t get 20 out of it but I got a good 19 3/4 before my spotter had to help me finish that lest rep.
He didn’t say a word but just walked right out of the weight room. But now I weighed 245 and not much of it was fat. These days I can hardly roll 400lbs and that’s downhill?? also I had won the East Coast Bench Press Contest that summer so he should’ve known better.
As for Georgia cheating? There sure is a lot of smoke right now and Florida’s Mullen got busted for much less so I’m sure he’s willing to tell what he knows.
Here’s the good news though. Like the psychotic hit man in the movie “No Country for Old Men” said when the protagonists wife told him she was worried how she would pay for her husbands funeral; “I wouldn’t worry about it.” NCAA is not what it used to be.
Keep pumping that iron. That and football totally screwed up my back for life but I’m the exception.
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 26, 2021, 12:48 PM
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Yes. I’ve been in the recruiting game a long time and putting it honestly it’s like steroids in bodybuilding. Everyone knows it’s there it’s just about once you get to the point of undeniably bad it’ll be looked over because once you can’t deny it anymore the stupid people then realize it and want in on it and that’s the problem because then everyone gets a dirty backyard. The ncaa knows about UGA and has addressed it hints why in 2018 y’all were making it rain 5* that never visited flipping from schools far superior like Alabama you got your behind the scenes talking to and recruiting slowed down. OSU last year shot off like a rocket and then miraculously slowed down, no they got their stern talking to. These schools fund the state and the state won’t let the ncaa just shut em down too easily. Look up Kirby’s law while we’re at it for more explanation of how that works.
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You Might Be "The Bear" in The Couple Make Sure You Don't
Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM
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Manscape it or next week at The Manhole will not be fruitful.
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I don’t know and don’t care. I’d say keep paying them all you want.
Mar 27, 2021, 8:59 AM
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As long as your results on the field are the same, I hope you pay every recruit $1M.
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Yes absolutely. So does Clemson.
Mar 27, 2021, 9:02 AM
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A certain 5* TE got paid 6 digits to sign with UGA.
Every school does it. Just not many are as brazen and deep pocketed as UGA.
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Hogwash
Mar 27, 2021, 9:11 AM
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“Innocent until proven guilty” must only apply to Clemson.
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Re: Honest question - Does UGA really pay players? Bagman?
Mar 27, 2021, 9:32 AM
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I've heard several places from folks who are generally in in the know that Kirby is dirty as sin. Was hearing much the same about UT, Ole Miss, A&M, and of course, LSU the last few years as well. Basically, the SEC has pretty much gone Wild West again.
Strangely, those same people seem to think Alabama is largely out of the buying players business, at least since the very early years of Saban's tenure there. He just doesn't have to anymore. When you're putting ten guys a year in the League and winning national titles at the rate he's winning them, your recruiting kind of sells itself. So why roll dirty when you don't gotta? Supposedly usually more trouble than it's worth, since a kid you buy comes with a raftload of problems, not the least of which is zero accountability. That kid owns you, not the other way around. The NCAA is always just a phone call away.
FWIW.
As far as how UGA "gets away with it", several ways. First off, the NCAA enforcement office is largely toothless these days. I heard some stories about some of the stuff Hugh Freeze was pulling with his own two hands at Ole Miss and it was straight-out-of-the-'8o's SMU stuff, and all the NCAA did was put two years of Show Cause on him. And guess what...he allegedly - I'll work that word in there, because this is secondhand info - tried to buy a WR my son now plays with for $2oK to come play for him at Liberty, so it would seem the good Mr. Freeze is right back to his old tricks if not his old recruiting budget.
Second off, after Bama almost got the death penalty in 2ooi over the Albert Means incident when Phil Fulmer turned Bama in when Means' coach basically put him up for auction (which Bama won, beating out Fulmer, which he then turned Bama in for, cheeky) then-SEC commissioner Mike Slive instituted what was widely known as the "Phil Fulmer rule" - in which an SEC member-institution had to first report infractions to the SEC front office before reporting them to the NCAA, whereupon they would duly be investigated, and of course, buried. Basically the mafia law of omerta.
Before being SEC commissioner, by the way, Mike Slive had been a lawyer who specialized in getting schools accused of NCAA infractions out of hot water. He was so good at his job, the SEC made him their commissioner.
How the SEC rolls. It just pays more. I wish I was kidding, but I'm really not.
Also, just for a cherry-on-top garnish, the very week Kirby was hired, purely by coincidence, I'm sure, the Georgia state legislature literally passed a special law that allowed UGA to slow-play Freedom of Information requests from a week to something ridiculous like 9o days, which means they can drag out any kind of reporter snooping around for dirt until the end of time, since basically you submit a query for info, they wait 9o days, then regretfully inform you they don't quite understand your request, can you please clarify, and then when you do, they wait 9o days, then give you the bureaucratic run-around yet again....you get the idea.
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