Tiger Board Logo

Donor's Den General Leaderboards TNET coins™ POTD Hall of Fame Map FAQ
GIVE AN AWARD
Use your TNET coins™ to grant this post a special award!

W
50
Big Brain
90
Love it!
100
Cheers
100
Helpful
100
Made Me Smile
100
Great Idea!
150
Mind Blown
150
Caring
200
Flammable
200
Hear ye, hear ye
200
Bravo
250
Nom Nom Nom
250
Take My Coins
500
Ooo, Shiny!
700
Treasured Post!
1000

YOUR BALANCE
High School Social Studies
storage This topic has been archived - replies are not allowed.
Archives - Tiger Boards Archive
add New Topic
Replies: 70
| visibility 1

High School Social Studies

1

Feb 15, 2023, 11:08 AM

I teach/have taught Human Geography (9th), Modern World History (10th), US History and Constitution (11th), US Government (12th), and Economics and Personal Finance (12th).

I've always been curious to know what adults think kids learn in these classes versus what they think kids "should" be learning.

I've heard that we should teach kids how to invest money and balance a budget in Economics. I've heard that we should stop teaching kids critical race theory in US History.

What are your thoughts? What do you believe kids are actually learning? And what do you believe kids should learn instead?

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

CRT

3
1

Feb 15, 2023, 11:18 AM

Doesn’t get taught at that level or below. That is conservative racist scare tactic BS.

My parents taught me finances.

I think learning how the stock market works (stocks, bonds, mutual funds how they impact retirement, would probably be good)

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Are you a teacher? Are you in a high school every day?***

2

Feb 15, 2023, 11:26 AM



2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

You must be a comedian***


Feb 15, 2023, 12:07 PM [ in reply to CRT ]



flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: CRT


Feb 15, 2023, 1:24 PM [ in reply to CRT ]

This is true. We do not teach critical race theory. Nothing in the curriculum could even be associated with CRT.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: CRT

1
1

Feb 15, 2023, 1:38 PM

You wouldn't think that's the case listening to the chatter on the "right". Florida appears to be going bonkers over the crap that Desantis is spewing. I've generally believed that educators are best at determining what should be taught in the various grade levels. The idea of letting emotional parents at out of control PTA meetings or ambitious politicians set on higher office dictate the curriculum is asking for trouble. So glad my two "kids" are long out of school...

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: CRT


Feb 15, 2023, 3:36 PM

This is simple enough to understand though. Republicans do not have power in the federal government. It would be pointless for them to focus on passing legislation because the Democrats would block everything. Instead, focus on culture war issues like transgenderism and critical race theory. Keep that the focus so that you can scare your base enough to vote in the next elections. Once you win, then you can focus on policies.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Maybe not in the curriculum, but it's a thing.***

1

Feb 15, 2023, 8:57 PM [ in reply to Re: CRT ]



2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Maybe not in the curriculum, but it's a thing.***


Feb 16, 2023, 8:29 AM

That's not true either. Critical Race Theory is a legal doctrine taught in Law School. Kids certainly aren't being taught that in school. They get taught anti-racist doctrines, but we conflate that with critical race theory because anti-racism doesn't sound as scary.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies

1

Feb 15, 2023, 11:22 AM

My experience with our children and grand children is they learn very little in History/Social Studies. They cannot understand why they have to study things that happened hundreds of years ago and just don't care about the subject unless the teacher makes it real.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 1:25 PM

That is a big problem. In my experience, most students simply do not care about the content.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

“Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”***


Feb 16, 2023, 8:43 AM



flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 16, 2023, 12:20 PM [ in reply to Re: High School Social Studies ]

My 29 year old daughter is, or has, taught about the same subjects you named above. She certainly does not teach CRT. She always has a few kids that love history, but most just learn enough to get by.
I can't say history was a subject I loved either when I was in high school 41+ years ago, but over the years I have really learned to appreciate the subject. The History Channel is one of my favorite channels to watch on TV.

2024 white level member flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

"If a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal."


Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 11:23 AM

Although the classes you have taught are important, there also classes that are not required but should be. A high school principal friend of mine told me that basic life requirements should be focused on. He continued by saying that many high school students know absolutely nothing about basic economics. They have no clue how to balance a check book in many cases. Also, speaking from my own experience, auto mechanics should be taught as a requirement. Home economics should also be a requirement. This means that some classes need to be dropped to make room for these. I would guess that Art would be dropped by most everyone. Sorry, I got carried away. Just my opinion.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: High School Social Studies

2

Feb 15, 2023, 11:25 AM

You are wrong Sterling. All 3 of my grandchildren are being taught this. We are presently looking at Charter schools for nest year.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: High School Social Studies

2

Feb 15, 2023, 11:58 AM

For Geography, kids should learn the states of the United States and where they are located. The seven continents and location and the bodies of water and location.
History, should teach about the formation of our country, the purpose of the US Constitution, how this country was formed and the price paid for freedom.
Economics should teach basic life skills of managing money. Buying forms of insurance, forms of interest when borrowing money, how investments work and checking/savings skills.
I believe one hour a day for a semester or school year should allow teachers to dig into these subjects deeply.
But sadly what is taught is information to score well on state or federal achievement tests given at the end of the year.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 3:28 PM [ in reply to Re: High School Social Studies ]

When you have to Google what critical race theory is or your kids can't tell you what it is, it's probably not being taught.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 3:34 PM

It's not being taught.

People are confusing anti-racism with critical race theory. The conflation of the two doctrines is purposeful because anti-racism doesn't sound as scary as critical race theory. And we know how well fear is as a motivator.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies

1

Feb 15, 2023, 9:22 PM

I'm sick of people telling others what they are actually talking about. I know you are a HS history teacher so you must be much more qualified than anyone else on this board with what their children are being taught in EVERY class across the state and country. Obviously no teacher anywhere has ever included crt ideas in their lessons or class work. We are all just confused because the rest of us are too dumb to know the difference. It's insulting, just because we all aren't teachers doesn't mean we are stupid.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 16, 2023, 8:32 AM

That is correct. High school teachers do not know what critical race theory is either. Early childhood and secondary education majors never learn CRT in college. You can find countless examples of teachers using anti-racist lessons in the classroom. But they aren't teaching CRT.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies

1

Feb 15, 2023, 9:12 PM [ in reply to Re: High School Social Studies ]

Plenty of my students couldn't go home and say the word Pythagoream theorem or explain to their parents the specifics behind it, but it doesn't mean it wasn't taught in some form or some way. That is true of many things not necessarily crt or any particular item, but any teacher can stray from curriculum and put their own narrative to it. parents have to be involved with all subjects and not as a gap. The schools should be the gap, the parents should be the driving force in the education of their children. Yeah, it's a pain but I am more qualified to ensure the growth of my child than anyone else.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies

1

Feb 15, 2023, 9:17 PM

mattycu gets it. See my post just now!!!

Glad to hear a teacher tell the truth.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies

1

Feb 15, 2023, 9:12 PM [ in reply to Re: High School Social Studies ]

Plenty of my students couldn't go home and say the word Pythagoream theorem or explain to their parents the specifics behind it, but it doesn't mean it wasn't taught in some form or some way. That is true of many things not necessarily crt or any particular item, but any teacher can stray from curriculum and put their own narrative to it. parents have to be involved with all subjects and not as a gap. The schools should be the gap, the parents should be the driving force in the education of their children. Yeah, it's a pain but I am more qualified to ensure the growth of my child than anyone else.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 1:27 PM [ in reply to Re: High School Social Studies ]

Auto mechanic classes are typically taught at a local technical school. Most schools in the country have access to them. In my district, students can only take those specialty classes if they have a good enough GPA.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 1:46 PM

My local school district had a vocational (career) school too where high school kids could take auto mechanic classes or learn to be a chef. We also had mechanical drawing classes. I think teaching kids finances early like staying out of debt and how to negotiate (or the pitfalls) of buying an auto is very helpful later in life.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 3:32 PM

I teach seniors that are about to go off to college. We just learned how to invest money to help pay off loans faster. If their loans have a 6-7% interest rate, then investing money that grows 10%, or more, would be better for them instead of paying the loans off right away.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 8:28 PM

Dave Ramsey has entered the chat

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 8:51 PM

Who?

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 9:06 PM

Don’t know if that’s a joke or not, but he is a financial expert. He has an approach largely focused on balancing risk in a conservative way, i.e., he is staunchly opposed to debt. The rough position is that investments are speculative and have inherent risk (especially if you’re banking on 10%+) and the optimal approach is to pay down the debt which has no risk. It doesn’t have risk but it does have opportunity loss.

I’m somewhat joking but also highlighting there are a variety of strategies to building wealth and students should understand the associated risk profiles with those strategies.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 16, 2023, 8:33 AM

What's the risk of investing in an index fund for 10+ years to help pay off your debt faster?

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 16, 2023, 7:41 PM

Ok - let's say you invested in a broad index fund that roughly matches the S&P500. You take out your 6% annual loan in 2000 while watching Woody Dantzler tear it up in Orange. The S&P500 value would've been ~1510 and then 10 years later the S&P500 would've been ~1100. If you had invested $100k in that index fund, you'd be at ~$75k. A simple interest loan at 6% over that same 10 year period would have cost you ~$30k in interest. Thus, you are $55k less wealthy as you watch Kyle Parker in 2010.

That is one example using a simple interest loan and a broad index over a decade time period. You can slide that window around and get different outcomes; however, there is risk associated in investing full-stop. Now, I am heavily invested in the stock market through index funds, ETFs, individual stocks, etc. along with bonds, high interest savings accounts, etc. but I still pay down debts to balance the risk of that portfolio of investments.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies

3

Feb 15, 2023, 12:04 PM

What the hell is “human geography“?

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 1:28 PM

It's essentially current events. There are different themes throughout the class.

Demographics and Populations
Migration
Political Geography
Economic Geography
Urban Geography
Historical Context

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies

1

Feb 15, 2023, 12:11 PM

"I've heard that we should teach kids how to invest money and balance a budget in Economics."


I always hate how people argue this as if it will solve poverty. These lessons are only beneficial for people who actually have money. Hard to conceptualize them when you don't have any resources.

badge-donor-05yr.jpgmilitary_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

"Smelley, Garcia, and Beecher are going to lead you to 4-8." - york_tiger


Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 12:26 PM

Class - I understand your point however, not having resources can be, should be a temporary thing. If people are willing to work hard, there’s no reason they cannot put away a small amount of money with each paycheck. It could be just a couple dollars, it could be $10-$20, whatever. But people won’t do that if they don’t understand the concepts involved with investing, compounded interest, how the markets work, etc.
People won’t make those disciplined investment choices if they don’t understand how it works or the concepts behind investing for long-term savings.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 1:31 PM [ in reply to Re: High School Social Studies ]

It isn't really taught to solve poverty. It's taught so that young people start investing money earlier in their lives. Putting away ~10% earlier in your adult working life has a lot of benefits in the future.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 12:12 PM

I think they should learn about the Russian Revolution and Bolshevik takeover of Imperial Russia.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 12:26 PM

Most people have resources even if they are poor. The poor needs to know how to manage their food stamps and government checks. and to buy food items that are the best price. As an ex-social worker, I can testify that many, many poor people have vices that cost a lot of money. Cigarettes is their main vice and most of us know how much a pack of cigarettes cost. Their next vice is alcohol abuse. Also, many poor people have pets. Pets are nice but they must be fed. Resource management is lost with most of these folks.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 1:31 PM [ in reply to Re: High School Social Studies ]

The Russian Revolution is taught in Modern World History.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

According to "The Squad" You Should Be Teaching

1

Feb 15, 2023, 12:34 PM

Wokeness focusing on:

1) White privilege
2) How to pay reparations
3) Gender fluidity
4) How to baselessly tag someone a facist
5) How to prey on children to make them easier targets for underage sex

If you are not doing this you will be cancelled

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpgmilitary_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: According to "The Squad" You Should Be Teaching


Feb 15, 2023, 12:46 PM

Just leave teachers alone. They know what they are doing. I have to kids that recently finished high school. The school system did a great job. It's the parents job to fill in the gaps. My only thought would be to speed the lessons up. Half a semester to read "catcher in the rye" is too long. In the business world it's think fast move fast. However, like I said teachers today are much better compared to when I came up.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: According to "The Squad" You Should Be Teaching


Feb 15, 2023, 3:21 PM [ in reply to According to "The Squad" You Should Be Teaching ]

That's obviously not true.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

It Is a Good Commie Should Understand They Have a Manifesto***


Feb 16, 2023, 9:21 AM



2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpgmilitary_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 12:38 PM

Our history curriculum should definitely talk about the war of 1812 more and England's banking system and how that led to the war through financier Rothschild.

2024 orange level member flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 12:44 PM

Then we should expose the so called "Philanthropist" like the Rockefeller's and every other billionaire that has taken advantage of our tax code and used Philanthropy as a mean of tax evasion.

Also discounted pricing for distributors shouldn't be a thing. The cost of manufacturing should be the only determining factor that dictates price. Not volume. It's unfair to the middle class that their business doesn't qualify for the same pricing structure as the big time distributors in this country. Why should a bottle of water cost more depending on where you live?

These are the untold parts of history and literally what I do for a living is to tell the best version of the truth. Leaving out key details in history is why we are in the shape we are in today in our society.

2024 orange level member flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 3:21 PM [ in reply to Re: High School Social Studies ]

The War of 1812 is brought up in US History.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 16, 2023, 7:49 AM

It's brought up and dropped no one is studying it.

2024 orange level member flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 16, 2023, 8:35 AM

Well, yes, but that's because US History expands 4 centuries. A lot of teachers wish US History was 2 separate classes. The first ending at the Civil War and the second beginning right after.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Kids don’t learn critical race theory in K-12…

2

Feb 15, 2023, 12:42 PM

It’s college level curriculum. Not sure how we got to the point where people think it’s taught at lower levels.

I don’t remember much discussion of stocks, mutual funds, etc… But at one point South Carolina did have a state stock market game that middle schools participated in.

2024 purple level member flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


It's not that there is a class called CRT

2

Feb 15, 2023, 12:44 PM

However, if you don't believe CRT ideas are in our schools even in conservative South Carolina, you need to talk to some teachers.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

People just don’t understand what CRT is (K-12 teachers included)

1

Feb 15, 2023, 12:47 PM

and are confusing black history curriculum with CRT which is more of a legal analysis.

2024 purple level member flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


CRT is basically Karl Marx's ideology 2.0.


Feb 15, 2023, 12:57 PM

Couch Marx's oppressor and oppressed in America's history with slavery and current struggles with racism and you have a general idea of CRT.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: CRT is basically Karl Marx's ideology 2.0.


Feb 15, 2023, 3:24 PM

That's not entirely inaccurate. It's a little more complicated than that though. Critical Race Theory is derived from Critical Theory at the Frankfurt School. There is a clear connection to Marxism and Critical Theory. But, critical race theorists reject many of the tenants of Critical Theory.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 12:48 PM

I never had an economics course that taught someone how to balance a budget or that dealt with personal finance. They were centered around the law of supply and demand, as well as other ways to interpret patterns and trends within large sets of data. What people equate to "economics" in their responses is more like accounting than anything. I would assume that kids are taught an introductory overview of how S&D works in the world of free-markets. Never heard of "personal finance", so I have no opinion on that.

I'd guess that kids are taught a similar curriculum to what I had in high school. My history and civics classes would have been similar to the courses you have taught. We certainly didn't study Critical Race Theory, and I doubt high school kids do today either. From what I have gathered, CRT is a graduate level theoretical subject in law school. I probably had too much history memorization and not enough civics and how governments work. I believe kids should have a better understanding of how their environment works - civics - than an understanding of past events in far away places. Both are important, but one so more than the other.

In general, I wish kids got more practical application of what they learn. More math and science labs. More creative writing. More doing, less memorization. It helps make concepts less abstract and more memorable. And while we're at it, we need more creativity in our society. Music and arts are fun and important to society but they also nurture creativity that is used in ANY field of study.

badge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 3:25 PM

Economics is centered around supply and demand. Students can also take a personal finance class as an elective. But, that class will become mandatory for all students beginning next year.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 1:32 PM

I think history, especially US history, is important. Also think people need to learn more about how to handle their finances and I don't even mean stuff like investing or home buying. We have an entire generation of kids who, without a thought, pay exorbitant amounts for someone to deliver McDonalds to them, then wonder why they are always broke. People need to be made aware of simple things like how to cheaply shop for groceries. Stuff like that. I mean it seems elementary but young people these days really have no idea and I guess their parents don't show them this kind of thing any more. Old guy rant over.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 3:30 PM

US History is broken down into a few units:

1) European arrival, 13 colonies, sectionalism, and social contract theory

2) Revolutionary War and the Constitution

3) Antebellum Period and Manifest Destiny

4) Civil War and Reconstruction

5) Industrial Revolution, Imperialism, and World War One

6) Great Depression and World War Two

7) Cold War and the Civil Rights Era

8) Reagan - Biden

It's also an EOC course, so this is the most strenuous history class for teachers and students. Their final exams are 20% of their overall score and the schools get "report cards" on how well their students perform. My school did the best last year with an average of 77 on the EOC. The 2nd best school in our district averaged a 55. Then we had 39, 28, 25, 22, and 20 averages for the rest.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 4:06 PM

I think personal finance should be required and it should include how to balance a checkbook, how to make a household budget (which is basically a mock account balance done in advance), and how interest works both how it is earned and how it is paid on purchases. I like what you said about teaching your class that if they can invest and get a 10% return, that is better than paying off a loan charging 5-6 %. We did exactly that with our last home purchase. We had enough equity in our prior home to pay cash for this one but the mortgage interest rates were about 3% when we bought. Was a no brainer to invest the money instead of buying outright. But a lot of people are teaching kids to pay off all debt. Sometimes that doesn’t make sense and they need to be able to understand the cost of interest vs the returns. It will show them why running up credit card debts that carry 15-20% or higher interest is not a good idea as well.
The concept of balancing a checkbook is applicable in many other situations as well. If you manage inventory as part of your job, the concept of balancing and managing that inventory is the same. You have an inventory (beginning balance), you either add receipts (credits), or remove shipments (debits), and at the end of the period if everything is accounted for it will balance with the ending inventory (ending balance). This applies to so many things besides just the checkbook.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 15, 2023, 5:05 PM

If you study history you can predict the future. The farther you go back the better. Even the bible can be viewed as a history book.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 16, 2023, 11:38 AM

Social Studies Standards allow for a class on the historicity of the Bible. But my school does not offer that class. I think that would be an interesting one as well. It's a good book to teach how we know what is historically accurate or not. Some stuff in the Bible is historical, other stuff is not. How we figure out the real from the fictional is important to learn.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

carefully worded....

1
1

Feb 15, 2023, 6:39 PM

Is that a suggestion that (you teach or have taught CRT), phrased in the form of a question? And phrased in that manner in order to illicit the type of response that would support a hypothesis?-your hypothesis-

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Great thought provoking topic! BUT WRONG FREAKING

1

Feb 15, 2023, 6:55 PM

BORED!!! As Slim said, “what in the wide world of sports does this have to do with Clemson football?

Go Tigers!

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Great thought provoking topic! BUT WRONG FREAKING


Feb 15, 2023, 8:53 PM

You must be board

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Wrong bored Moran.

1

Feb 15, 2023, 8:39 PM

Mods.

military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Wrong bored Moran.


Feb 15, 2023, 8:53 PM

Mods^

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

That a boy

3

Feb 15, 2023, 9:16 PM [ in reply to Wrong bored Moran. ]

😂 Tell that communist coot where to go!

I agree CRT is not taught in the curriculum, but the schools are infested with it. My 12 year old 6th grader comes home daily and tells us about the students accusing the teacher of being a racist for assigning homework and, of course, being white. Kids really think black history month is about their skin color. Kids telling students that they are racist because they are white and being black excludes them from being racist. Kids telling white kids they have white privilege because they don't get punish as often as they do.

CRT May not be in the text, but hiding behind this is willful ignorance. Someone said earlier it's a right wing scare tactic, which is just as ignorant as saying "it's simply not happening..."

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Yeah! Put this in the PRO ZONE.


Feb 16, 2023, 8:39 AM [ in reply to Wrong bored Moran. ]

PRO ZONE
R
O

Z
O
N
E

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-20yr.jpgringofhonor-obed.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


For sure, so-called critical race theory is bullchit and should

1

Feb 15, 2023, 9:08 PM

not be allowed to be taught in public schools!

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-05yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: For sure, so-called critical race theory is bullchit and should


Feb 16, 2023, 8:36 AM

I agree. CRT is way too complicated for young people. That's why it is only taught in law school.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies


Feb 16, 2023, 9:22 AM

Thank you for your service teaching our kids!

I think history should be the most important class in school. It's the closest you can come to knowing/predicting the future. As it's been said, those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. And we do. Time and time again.

It seems that these days history is focused on pointing out our mistakes and all the negatives of the world. There's certainly a place for that, but history is about LEARNING from our mistakes and I think too many schools spend too much time dwelling on the mistakes.

America is a great country not because we've never made mistakes, but because we (eventually) recognize our mistakes, learn from them, and attempt to better ourselves.

Take all the publicity about police abuses, for example. You'd think that there's been a huge surge in cases of police abusing suspects, but that's not true at all. What's increased is the publicity of it. 20-30-40 years ago, nobody really paid it any attention. Can we not look at these incidents and recognize that it's good and shows progress that we're giving these matters the attention they deserve and not letting the police get off with whatever they want, whether malicious or accidental or other, but we're now actively making sure they they operate fully within the constraints of the law and of basic decency?

I've often thought about teaching history, but I don't think I'd last a week in the public schools these days. February - black history month - would be my favorite. It seems everybody talks about King, and Tubman, and frequently, these days, Obama, and all that's good. But what about the men and women who paved the way - often with flesh and blood - for what those people were able to accomplish? I've read a lot about blacks in the military, from the Revolutionary War to Vietnam. They endured much - not for what their country WAS, but for what they knew their country COULD BE, and while they may not have lived to see it, their kids and grandkids did. Show the kids the movie Glory, or Tuskeegee Airmen, or the new movie Devotion. Or the Jackie Robinson movie 42. Show them what these people endured to prove that blacks were equal in general, and sometimes, as individuals, superior even. Give them heroes they can truly idolize and look up to. History is full of examples, but it seems we dwell on slavery and all those injustices, which certainly warrants attention, but leaves them with a victim mentality. Teach about the overcomers and they can be left with victor mentalities.

My 15 cents ;)

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: High School Social Studies

1

Feb 16, 2023, 11:35 AM

I agree with your assessment about history. It certainly puts the current world into perspective. Context is so important, and so many Americans have none. So many adults are completely ignorant of how our government works. I can summarize most complaints with "this is the system our Founding Fathers created." And then I can provide arguments from the Federalist Papers for why this system is still the best in the world.

I'm not so sure that history focuses on the negatives though. Individual teachers might. But the curriculum certainly doesn't. US History and US Government are my favorite classes to teach. 11th and 12th graders are more mature and are more willing to engage in the content. And it helps that the content is more interesting.

I wish US History was split into 2 separate classes. Columbus -> Civil War would be one class. Then Civil War -> present day would be the other.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Replies: 70
| visibility 1
Archives - Tiger Boards Archive
add New Topic