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All-TigerNet [10866]
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Arizona, where Republicans have the governor, senate, and house.
Nov 12, 2022, 2:36 PM
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You're a God #### genius Tom.
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Orange Blooded [2638]
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Trump + Fox News
Nov 12, 2022, 3:25 PM
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= here we are.
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110%er [7185]
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If only there were some way for the State to make election laws.***
Nov 13, 2022, 10:50 AM
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All-TigerNet [13359]
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Re: Arizona, where Republicans have the governor, senate, and house.
Nov 13, 2022, 9:20 AM
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Arizona, where Republicans have the governor, senate, and house…. YET apparently voted straight Dem for all federal seats.
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Orange Blooded [4005]
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Re: Arizona, where Republicans have the governor, senate, and house.
Nov 13, 2022, 11:34 AM
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Didn't you guys just have a 6 month investigation into voter fraud in AZ? How did that turn out?
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Legend [15492]
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Re: Here's how they're stealing Arizona
Nov 13, 2022, 12:05 AM
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If the midterm debacle the Republicans have suffered means anything, it means that most Americans are fed up with the lies, the fear-mongering, and the outrage culture foisted on them by the likes of Tucker Carlson, who owns The Gateway Pundit, Fox News, NewsMax, and other right-wing outlets. They spread misinformation because it pays. The do it for advertising dollars.
You believe, too easily, that if you lose an election, there had to be cheating. But if you win an election like Reps Lesko, Gosar, McCarthy, etc all Republicans in Arizona, then those elections were straight up and fair.
The Republicans got a historic asz-whipping in the midterms because people are fed up with lies, and election deniers like Gosar, Trump, Mastriano, Boebert, Taylor-Greene, and people like you.
Most of the U.S. has moved on. You people seem to be addicted to outrage. It's outrage solely for the sake of outrage. You rail against importing foreign oil while railing against closing the Keystone Pipeline, which carries in foreign oil from the Alberta tar sands. (Keystone has been operating since 2010)
Check yourself on the lies your willing to believe just so you be OUTRAGED. And on the mid-term elections, in the words of my sweet old grandma, "Pisz off, you lost, go cry somewhere else."
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Legend [19883]
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Re: Here's how they're stealing Arizona
Nov 13, 2022, 12:49 AM
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You don't have to be so partisan Felix.
Election fraud should bother everybody, no matter which party is behind it.
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Re: Here's how they're stealing Arizona
Nov 13, 2022, 3:29 PM
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Election fraud bothers me. But I don't invent fake election fraud when I lose elections.
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Republicans are losing in Arizona and all other mass mail-in
Nov 13, 2022, 9:02 AM
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ballot States because they have failed to learn how the mail-in ballot game is played. In mass mail-in ballot States it's not just about "turning out" the vote - it's about getting mail-in ballots into every potential Republican friendly hand and then following through to ensure that a maximum of Republican mail-in ballots are filled out, delivered to the polls, and counted through whatever means necessary. This process also includes a post election ballot "curing" operation because the Democrats are skull dragging Republicans on that as well.
What a lot of folks think is fraud is actually Democrats perfecting the art of getting mail-in ballots to Democrat voting blocks that are not predisposed to get off their lazy a$$es and actually vote. Everyone, from low IQ voters to apathetic voters in heavy Democratic districts are being spoon fed ballots which are then targeted by Democratic operatives for follow up to ensure these people fill out the ballots. The Democrats are collecting these ballots up in droves and have organized "curing" operations post election to ensure any of these ballots that are wonky get fixed.
I have no doubt that some fraud is happening but more than anything the Democrats are simply gaming the system to their advantage. I hate mass-mail in balloting for numerous reasons but until the rules change the Republicans had better learn to compete in this new mail-in ballot reality or they will continue to lose races they should otherwise win.
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just wait until they jamb ranked voting in like Alaska
Nov 13, 2022, 9:19 AM
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that will skew Dem too. Libertarians will help dems even more than they already do.
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Re: Republicans are losing in Arizona and all other mass mail-in
Nov 13, 2022, 10:20 AM
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Yup. This. What I always thought myself.
Not really a fan of ballot harvesting myself, but it's not "cheating" per se because it is within the rules.
Mind, I have no idea how somebody who can't figure out how to, say, get an ID, or who requires this much "help" with their ballots can possibly vote intelligently on the issues, but that's a different argument.
I personally think an "interested voter" should show at least minimal interest and agency.
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Re: Republicans are losing in Arizona and all other mass mail-in
Nov 13, 2022, 11:08 AM
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Yep. I doubt there is massive fraud. However, the Dems are essentially using the rules to their advantage.
Dean Smith ran the 4 corners offense. It sucked, but it wasn’t cheating.
Pubs gotta either change the rules or adapt to the rules.
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Re: Republicans are losing in Arizona and all other mass mail-in
Nov 13, 2022, 11:34 AM
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Same goes for gerrymandering.
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I wouldn’t call it “gaming the system,” I’d call it doing their job.
Nov 13, 2022, 10:18 PM
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Republicans just aren’t as good at doing their job. If you want higher turnout it’s as simple as doing what the Dems do. Republicans just choose not to. That’s their own fault.
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All-TigerNet [10866]
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it has nothing to do with GOTV. They are taking boxes
Nov 13, 2022, 5:52 PM
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of ballots that people brought with them to the polling place filled out, to ensure they weren't fraudulently messed with, and shipping them to the BALLOT PRINTING COMPANY where they insert more ballots for the Democrats then ship the boxes to be tabulated. It is blatant election fraud via ballot stuffing.
The lazy aren't filling out mail in ballots, their IDs are being used in the fraud.
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Here is a chart of what I'm talking about - specfic to PA
Nov 13, 2022, 6:05 PM
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This chart shows the mail-in ballots before mass mail-in voting started in 2020. Dear Republicans - DO YOU SEE THE TREND?
In last weeks mid-term, the Democrats had already collected a 566K vote advantage before the first "get out to the polls and vote" person arrived. If Republicans want to continue to lose elections to the physically dead (Deluca) and brain dead (Fetterman) Democratic candidates they had better learn how to ballot harvest in States like PA, MI, MN, and WI and start offsetting this ridiculous Democratic advantage with targeted Republican mail-in ballots.
Republicans must fight election fraud where it is provable but to continue to gaslight the Republican base with unproven allegations, uncanny coincidences, and complain about ballot harvesting in States that it is legal (and won't change) is a waste of time. Unless the GOP rolls up their sleeves and gets knee deep in this mail-in ballot game they are essentially accepting defeat before election day even arrives.
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This should probably be its own thread
Nov 14, 2022, 10:48 AM
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Well said, man. Blue team is getting ballots while Red team is getting votes.
I'm not going to pretend to know enough about the legal situation across all the states, but I'm sure (really hopeful at least) that if this was illegal it'd come out. Blue team has a better ballot harvesting operation and it's showing.
In my view, ballot harvesting is going to do to politics what taking us off the gold standard did to finance. You're creating an avenue for entities, with the means to exploit the environment, to exploit said environment.
Should Red Team staff up and get the same operation going? Sure, to compete. But shouldn't we be trying to pull money OUT of politics? Like, why do we need to spin up yet another artificial sliver of the economy dedicated to harvesting ballots for elections? So much waste, it just frustrates the #### out of me. We're past the point of no return with respect to how utterly corrupted everything is.
And the fix is so simple. Just get a verification scan of any sort to ensure who's casting the vote is who they say they are. They make mobile fingerprint scanners, retina scanners, etc. Hell - Clear (airport line skipping people) process how many hundreds of thousands of people a day? I could get 4 CS undergrads from Ga Tech to write the code and DB to do it. Very, very simple.
The fix to all this is very straightforward, but no one would be open to actually fixing it.
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Grow up, sore loser.***
Nov 13, 2022, 11:34 AM
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Re: Here's how they're stealing Arizona
Nov 13, 2022, 3:55 PM
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Maga crowd needs to win and lose with class. It’s like little school children screaming that the ref at the ymca cheated them in their church league basketball game.
Maga needs to Grow a pair and grow up.
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All-In [42020]
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No one is stealing any election
Nov 13, 2022, 6:52 PM
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Not now or in 2020.
Those claiming it are the same who would take their ball and go home crying because they lost.
Those who pushed the Big Lie and ran for office were trounced. America has had enough of their bull ####.
Anyone still claiming stolen elections is a dumb child, and I mean that with all my heart to every single person here who still pushes those lies.
Again, it’s easy to sit around dumbfounded and cry about losses when you never leave Podunk, SC, to experience the rest of the world and your MAGA buddies pat you on the back and tell you how smart you are for what you can memorize off Tucker Carlson.
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