Re: Governments around the world have provided

I disagree. Testing is still a joke 2 years in to this mess. Monoclonal antibodies are not readily available. New oral drugs that appear effective in treating COVID are in very short supply.

I'm still waiting 96+ hours for a DHEC COVID test result. I was told to call a toll free number if I had not received the results in 72 hours. When I got through, I was told on a recording to leave my info and I would be contacted within 1 business day. Still no answer.

The CDC arbitrarily shortened the quarantine time based on no scientific information. The CDC director stated she did not think it was warranted to get a negative test before coming out of quarantine as folks can test positive for weeks sometimes while probably not being infectious.

Fauci then comes out and says we need to consider testing before coming out of quarantine. There is no consistency except for inconsistency.

The usage of cloth masks and typical surgical masks have been promoted which have little to no utility in protecting one from COVID.

The vaccine does appear to offer a decent degree of protection from severe illness or death from COVID which is certainly appreciated and worthwhile, but this is not just a disease of the unvaccinated. I'm triple vaxxed and in good health, not over weight and have no comorbidities. Yet, I'm sure I have COVID based on my symptoms and with 2 family members who have received positive test results.

I'm glad the vaccine is available, but it is not a panacea for all things COVID. Furthermore it is not reasonable to discount the effects of prior infection with COVID and pushing the one size fits all vaccine promotion.

It makes little sense to promote boosters for teens to avoid Omicron which has not proven to be particularly morbid. The risk/ benefit ratio for boosting the young just isn't there.

The mixed messaging out of the Federal government, poor testing and poor availability of therapeutics is nothing to be praised. The adverse effects of COVID must be balanced against the negative impacts of government restrictions on liberty, education and the ability to earn a living.

I am very thankful most of the states have tried to strike a reasoned balance unlike Australia, New Zealand and some of the blue states.

There has been such a gross failure of the government to be truthful that many folks are rejecting vaccines. We need readily available testing and therapeutics and perhaps less emphasis on a vaccine that increasingly appears to provide a short lived benefit.

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Jan 4, 2022, 8:58 AM [ in reply to Re: Governments around the world have provided ]

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Rons1, no sane person suggests the vaccine is the panacea for all things COVID.

Furthermore, I suggest when you hypothesize the risk/ benefit ratio for boosting the young just isn't there, you discount the reality that unvaxed young people are much more likely (than vaxed young people) to transmit the virus to others. The “others” are elderly, immune compromised, those with medical conditions, etc. Some of these people would love to be vaccinated but are not eligible. They are therefore hoping their fellow Americans that are eligible get vaccinated. Please include these folks in your risk benefit ratio.

We probably agree more on COVID than disagree. I support the vaccinations though I am not sold on the very young getting them, masking -good quality masks-prior to the vaccines, hand hygiene and prior to the vaccines- avoiding large crowds.

I wish more people had chosen to be vaccinated, but I also think the government has been remiss by dumping folks who have had COVID into the same boat as the unvaccinated. The vaccinated are probably spreading less viral loads when having a break through infection, but absolutely are spreading COVID.

There are actually very few people who are ineligible to take the vaccine. The elderly certainly can and are taking the vaccine in large numbers as they/we should.Being moderately and even severely immunocompromised is actually a very important reason to take the vaccine. There is not a contraindication for those folks to take the COVID vaccine. There are very few medical conditions that likewise preclude the vaccine including cardiac issues. The main contraindication is an allergy to a prior COVID injection or to one of the components in the vaccine.

There really aren't a lot of folks who would benefit from the vaccine, but aren't eligible to take it. Those folks should avoid crowds, wear an N95 mask when around others, stay rested, lose weight if overweight, avoid the immunosuppressing effects of alcohol, perhaps take a regimen of vitamins.

I don't believe in forcing a vaccine on someone when it would appear every 5-6 months we are going to have to take another one. Why not allow folks to wear a good quality mask properly and be tested periodically instead of taking their livelihood away?

The vaccines have saved many many lives, but our government's response under both Trump and Biden has not been the gold standard. If you want to read how poorly our public health system performed especially early on, read The Premonition by Mark Lewis.

I'm done with the convo, but wonder if you have the same seeming level of antipathy towards the obese, smokers, hard drinkers, fast drivers and risk takers all of whom get culled out of the population at a higher rate than others?

Hopefully we're about to get into an endemic phase soon with Omicron spreading so rapidly. That could well be the silver lining in all of this.

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