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Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 9:11 AM
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We lost all the momentum in the world in that rain storm friday. The umps should have stopped play and that's not debatable.
I'm not high on Lee and think we need a change... but something tells me this team is pissed off and will sweep the double header today.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 9:52 AM
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Always easy to blame the umps, but both teams had to play in that same storm.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 10:27 AM
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No they didn’t. It starting pouring when Clemson was in the field. And the game ended that way. UVA just had to stand in the batters box and watch wild balls go by them.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 10:58 AM
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And I guess the rain was to blame for those wild pitches. By the way you failed to mention the inning and the score.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 11:04 AM
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The score was 4-0 in the bottom of the 4th inning. I guess you need me to break it down to you like a child. Yes we are allowed to blame the wild pitches on the weather. I’m guessing you don’t think water isn’t slick. They called the game off when uva tied the game at 4. Why did they wait to then? Why didn’t they just finish the inning? I know you know the answer to that captain finger paint?
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 11:23 AM
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The way the game played out yesterday was not weather related, and seeing as the final score was 11-6 VA. They didn't need the runs they got in the fourth anyway. Maybe there is an argument if it ends in a one run game or even a 4 run game but 5 run differential in the final score means they are just better. Could Clemson have won.. sure, but that is not the identity of this team. Pitching will get them every time in the later innings unless the offense hits numerous HRs and just explodes ( last week against GT). I want us to win more than anyone but this is not a complete team. Not trying to be a jerk, but we as a fan base have to stop propping up bad baseball with excuses. This is the third time this year where numerous people have claimed the umps cost us a series win. This reminds me of our football team under Tommy Bowden when everyone blamed refs (Ron Cherry mainly) for nearly every loss we suffered. The reality was we just weren't good. When the excuses stopped Bowden was removed and we got Dabo, who I didn't think was the answer, but turned out to be the key to an unbelievable run. Whether you like Monte or not, and I do, he is not getting the job done and it shows up every weekend.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 12:38 PM
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They scored 7 in the 4th and 4 the rest of the game. How did they not need the runs in the 4th?
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Crazy Horse just stop it!!***
May 15, 2022, 1:51 PM
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 10:01 AM
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I have to respectfully disagree that the umps stole the game. I know umps make bad calls and all indications are that the game should have been stopped, but at the end of the day you are tied. The Tigers were not down an insurmountable number of runs because of the umps. This baseball team is just not as good as we want them to be. We should not have to make excuses for any Clemson team. The softball team is in year three and played in the ACC Championship. No excuses to be made for them even though they lost because we all realize they are lightyears better than our baseball team. That is just reality. It does make us feel better to say outside factors held us back, but it just keeps us from facing reality. Our baseball team is NOT good enough to compete at a high level. Yes I do agree we need a refresh in the coaching dept. for our baseball team. Again I am not trolling you, just giving an honest counter opinion. Hopefully we finish strong against Virginia.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 11:23 AM
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We have an rpi in the 20s and have a better record than most ranked teams. If that’s not a good baseball team then what is? Are we great? No, but we are good
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 11:31 AM
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We are scratching for the last place in the ACC tournament just to get qualified for the NCAA Tournament. Most models have us in the "Next 4 out". So I ask you are we good? This is a fanbase that has called crap "sugar" for so long they longer know the difference and that is worst thing of all.
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We have a better rpi
May 15, 2022, 11:36 AM
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Than most of the acc team above us. The ACC is really good this year. You are acting like we are 17-30 or something.
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Re: We have a better rpi
May 15, 2022, 12:03 PM
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That is the same argument every SEC team uses every year " My conference is so good/hard that my team can't win".. We laugh at SEC teams that say the same thing you just did. Again I understand where you are coming from, but that is just another excuse we use to prop up bad teams.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 12:41 PM
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You do realize acc softball is pretty terrible outside of the top 3 teams? We loss every series against the top of the acc? The whole acc baseball this year outside of Boston college is tough.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 1:08 PM
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So is everyone too high on Clemson Softball? Have we now stooped to making excuses for the Softball team's success to appease the fans of a struggling baseball team? They did beat a top five Washington club, and just beat the number one seed Virginia Tech in the ACC Tournament. The Lady Tigers have earned every ounce of respect they now have. I would never deride the success of one or our Clemson teams to appease the feelings of another. You should not either.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 1:23 PM
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I’m not making any excuse for the softball team. They have been great. I’m just pointing out the dumb comparison you are trying to make. Clemson baseball beat a very good Miami baseball team. They beat a ranked FSU. They swept a ranked Georgia tech. Clemson softball has vey good individuals wins. But tell me this year have they won a series against the top 3 teams in the acc? You act like the baseball team sucks. They are in the top 20 of rpi rankings. They have played a brutal schedule. That’s not making excuses for any losses. That’s just pointing out facts. People hate the fact we aren’t 51-4 or something. They don’t like monte so it don’t matter what the team does they are going to hate it. It’s like a child like tantrum.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 1:38 PM
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I was never comparing Softball to Baseball in terms of wins you started that when you said that ACC softball was terrible, and implying that the Softball team was successful only because of lack luster play elsewhere. If you look at my post again the point was that both teams lost on Saturday. Yet no one felt the need to make lame excuses for the Softball team like Umps/weather. We accepted the loss of the Softball team because everyone knows they are a much better club than the baseball team and have continually proved that over the last few seasons. When the baseball team loses there is the tendency to make excuses to cover up what is clearly not a good team. Yes they just beat Virginia in game 2 and I am very happy with that. However, this is the time of year to have secured a spot in the tournament already and not be scraping by at the last minute. Yes, that all comes back to coaching, development, and preparation. Short of winning a regional there is nothing this baseball team can do to reclaim the standard that has always been Clemson Baseball.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 1:45 PM
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I do think we left a winnable game out there in game 1. It was a poorly handled situation by the umps and our staff.
Anglin has been pitching well and our staff wanted to keep him in, but playing in that torrential downpour allowed by umps was a farce if I’ve ever seen one.
So they put 4 on Anglin which likely never happens without the weather. Whatever. Then we got squeezed with calls late in the game that made zero sense.
UVA stole one. Kudos to them, it worked.
Could be the game that keeps us out the tourney.
However, I think the 2 losses at Pitt are likely culprits.
Back in the ACCT and get hot, that’s the only way.
ACC is deeper than SEC btw, at least this season.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 2:09 PM
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I hope you are right. I can appreciate everyone's enthusiasm for our baseball team. I really can and that is not me being tongue in cheek. I just wish I had the faith that we are on the right track that some of you seem to have. However, I can't, and maybe that is just a ME problem.
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 8:19 PM
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1 down…
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Re: Game 1 was stolen by the umps. We sweep today.
May 15, 2022, 8:30 PM
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1 to go!
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