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YOUR BALANCE
Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.
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Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 4:57 PM

It’s always nice to get a road ACC win, but we had not beaten NC State at their place in 7 years.

I was pleased that we found a way to win differently today. Excellent game by PJ Hall.

Dawes played well too.

For those who like to complain about us not holding leads, we did an excellent job keeping our lead today.

Really proud of this team! We have won 5 of our last 6 games. We are now 2-2 in the conference with some winnable games coming up.

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I saw a TNet article that said at one point we had a 51-31


Jan 8, 2022, 5:12 PM

shot advantage over them, AND we shot over 50% in the 2nd half. If that is true, how in the world was the game only a five point game? Some stat has got to be wrong.

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For the game, we shot 28 of 57 and they shot 19 of 60.


Jan 8, 2022, 5:20 PM

That comes out to 49.1% for us, and 31.7% for them.

They made up for this by making 9 threes to our 3, and 18 free throws to our 11.

Rebounds and turnovers were essentially a wash.

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Re: For the game, we shot 28 of 57 and they shot 19 of 60.


Jan 8, 2022, 9:42 PM

And the team stepped up to cover Honor’s “off night” (2-10).
Great win. I was worried at one point about the discrepancy in free throws (State 20+ version CU’s 6).

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Re: For the game, we shot 28 of 57 and they shot 19 of 60.


Jan 9, 2022, 7:55 AM

I think Honor is better coming off the bench.

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Re: For the game, we shot 28 of 57 and they shot 19 of 60.


Jan 9, 2022, 2:03 PM [ in reply to Re: For the game, we shot 28 of 57 and they shot 19 of 60. ]

Dawes had maybe his best game overall this season in that one though the stats may not show it. He seems to be off to a more sluggish start this year so great to see him step it up like he did and fill in for Honor. If both of those guys can get rolling together we become a most difficult out.

Some shades of Stitt, RIP, with that #2 action near the basket yesterday on Dawes' part. Hope he can build on that performance.

Go Tigers!

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Re: I saw a TNet article that said at one point we had a 51-31


Jan 8, 2022, 5:21 PM [ in reply to I saw a TNet article that said at one point we had a 51-31 ]

We were making 2 point shots instead of 3s. Only made 3/10 - 3 pointers. Averaging making 9 - 3 pointers per game. Also didn’t get many chances from the foul line. Nancy St attempted 10 more free throws than we did and at least 4 or maybe 6 of our 13 free throws came in the final 30 seconds. They also hit a 3 pointer with like 1.9 seconds left so it wasn’t as close as it sounds.

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I believe at one point FTs were 21-6 !!! (These Refs...)***


Jan 8, 2022, 6:33 PM



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Re: I saw a TNet article that said at one point we had a 51-31


Jan 9, 2022, 5:52 AM [ in reply to I saw a TNet article that said at one point we had a 51-31 ]

Silly turnovers kept it close. We were ready to blow it open on many occasions in the second half and gave the ball right back to the Pack.

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^^ you never give uP, on basketball, do you Judge Keller! ??


Jan 8, 2022, 5:15 PM

Wish you’d been here in late 50’s thru ‘65 when our average teams scrapped & crawled to win in the ole (Duke-like Cameron) Fike arena and we still had the time of our lives yelling & screaming and thinking we could beat Duke & UNC and didn’t know any difference..

and the tiny place was packed to the top of the bleachers, hot, noisy and we went crazy on each shot made & defensive block and we fans were located just feet from Coach K or Smith and let them & their A-A players know they were in for a tough game.

Even Coach Howard was in attendance and he entered as if he was the King of Persia and we acknowledged him as such..

saying in essence, we are a football school but we’ll enjoy this round ball too. ??

Get over it!

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Re: ^^ you never give uP, on basketball, do you Judge Keller! ??


Jan 8, 2022, 5:23 PM



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Now, WHO can argue with THAT!


Jan 8, 2022, 5:25 PM

I'm just trying to figure out if you called Judge a Kruggercroaker.

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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 5:16 PM

Was playing golf did not watch. Saw reviews. Agree any road win is a plus. Sounds like Dawes and Hall had great games.

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Hope you had a nice round and good weather!***


Jan 8, 2022, 5:24 PM



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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 5:28 PM [ in reply to Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack. ]

Dawes was great and PJ had at least 4 dunks. He was getting great position and some good passing getting him the ball headed to the hoop. Honor was off today - shot 3-10 and 0-3 from behind the line. If he could have hit the broad side of a barn it would have been a rout. Made their free throws at the end. Only made 3/10 three pointers so it wasn’t a typical offensive performance. Nice win and showed we don’t have to live and die with the 3 pointers.

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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 6:05 PM

Yeah, at one time honor was 0-9. He finished
2-10 and 0-3.

Imho, Chase Hunter was the hero. Who knows what might have happened but Hall went cold late but Chase picked them up going 3-3 . He hit some shots that I'm sure Brad said noooo but they went in. One thing that hurt us was Collins getting the quick whistle and then later Tyson got into trouble. State fouled a lot down the stretch to make the box look even but it wasn't.

Thank goodness hellems and smith? From State combined for 2-16 shooting. Smith being their better 3pt shooter was 0-7. A win is a win, especially on the road but State isn't a good team.

Our team is close. But at times we just don't seem to play disciplined... And it's different players. Example, we were up by 8 in first half, 3 tines we should have brought the ball down and played deliberate, set our offense and work it down low. Instead, we rushed shots quick all 3 times. I certainly don't pretend to know a lot of bball, but from a couch fan, the strategy is a head scratcher most times.

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Interestingly, Keatts has gotten some love here in the past


Jan 8, 2022, 9:49 PM

but has done less with more compared to Brad.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Keatts is a good coach. But Brad is better.

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Re: Interestingly, Keatts has gotten some love here in the past


Jan 10, 2022, 11:15 AM



but has done less with more compared to Brad.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Keatts is a good coach. But Brad is better.


NCSU board has a complaint about letting Brownell put on a coaching clinic on their home floor.

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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 6:28 PM [ in reply to Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack. ]

Hope you are playing better than I currently am lol. It has been a struggle as of late.

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MEG


Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 5:29 PM

Nice win, great effort and avoided long cold spell

Nice Job

Go Tigers

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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 6:26 PM

Yea seen they were up late I thought it was setting up to be a late collapse but they got it done and I agree any road wins in any sport is awesome.

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MEG


Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 7:07 PM

I wasn't able to watch it but listened through the website & followed ESPN game cast ....I get the ACC Network but not familiar with ACCNX...I thought I could watch through my ESPN account but it wouldn't let me

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Now that we’re out of the tournament. Again.


Jan 8, 2022, 6:40 PM

I was watching our new qb. He looks great. Since this is a basketball board I’ll involve basketball analogies.

1. He’s very accurate. Unlike any great shooter that Brownell coaches for more than a semester.
2. He’s tall and athletic. Unlike that tiny guard Brownell keeps playing even though he isn’t an ACC caliber guard and gets abused by bigger guards. #4, not sure if his name.
3. He’s a winner. Unlike Brownell.

Very excited about the future. Of our football program. And hopeful Neff does the right thing.

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Re: Now that we’re out of the tournament. Again.


Jan 8, 2022, 7:19 PM

LOL “out of the tournament” after a ACC road WIN in early January

That’s definitely a take

And I’m not a Brownell pumper either, that’s still just nonsense

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With the ACC being what it is


Jan 8, 2022, 7:30 PM

21 wins gets us in. Which means we need to go 11-4 from here on out and hope they consider NC State on the road “a signature win”. So yea, we’re out of the tournament. We aren’t going to be even in the next four out the next time rankings come out. Meaning we would need to jump 8 teams and have every conference tournament winner be a team projected to be “in” right now. Good luck with that, especially with our SOS heading down game by game.

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Thank you Westradamus***


Jan 9, 2022, 12:01 AM



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You need to stay on the Football boards,


Jan 8, 2022, 10:03 PM [ in reply to Now that we’re out of the tournament. Again. ]

You obviously know nothing about BB. And our little man Nick Honor is a fine bb player. He iced the game for us today with his free throw shooting.

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It’s adorable that he hit some free throws


Jan 9, 2022, 12:29 AM

But he’s way too little and not athletic enough to guard larger guards. Rutgers abused him last year, and players are constantly just shooting over him, warm up threes like he isn’t even there. He looks like he belongs in a mid major league, certainly not the ACC.

I guess if he’s so great, which player or players are the reason we aren’t good enough to make the tournament?

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Re: It’s adorable that he hit some free throws


Jan 10, 2022, 6:54 PM

Weslichick said:

But he’s way too little and not athletic enough to guard larger guards. Rutgers abused him last year, and players are constantly just shooting over him, warm up threes like he isn’t even there. He looks like he belongs in a mid major league, certainly not the ACC.

I guess if he’s so great, which player or players are the reason we aren’t good enough to make the tournament?



Lol. What a POS basketball fan you are. I bet making fun of our players makes you feel good.

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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 7:25 PM

Hall is looking like he will have a career in the NBA . He gets better and better.

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Our coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for Hall’s incredible development


Jan 8, 2022, 10:00 PM

It’s been amazing thus far, especially for a staff that some here claim doesn’t develop players.

Hunter Tyson is another great example.

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I thought you said our staff is not top staff since...


Jan 9, 2022, 8:16 AM

We don't pay that for assistants well? What's with that?

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I think they are good coaches, just not top 25 level coaches.


Jan 9, 2022, 2:11 PM

They are a good value for what we pay them.

But it’s ridiculous for our fans to expect top recruiting classes and easy NCAA berths when we pay our assistants below the national average. That’s some Coot logic.

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Congerts, Coach.

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Jan 8, 2022, 7:36 PM

But why haven’t we won there in 7 years. Why did we have to wait until they were terrible?

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Because we don’t spend enough money


Jan 8, 2022, 7:41 PM

on our program and don’t have enough fan support.

Neither of which was a problem under Purnell.

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Well, obviously *something* was a problem w/Purnell ...


Jan 8, 2022, 10:36 PM

Actually Rick Barnes was twice the basketball coach that Purnell was, but you know what ... it doesn’t matter. Both did not stay at Clemson long enough to turn things around.

Discussions about Rick Barnes and Oliver Purnell are worthless when critiquing the history of the Clemson basketball program.

They both left the job unfinished.

They couldn’t get Clemson over the hump and that’s just a plain fact. They left for what they considered better opportunities.

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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 7:43 PM

Judge what do you think about the progress of pj hall? I think he has tremendous potential imo

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His development has been excellent.


Jan 8, 2022, 10:05 PM

He is the leading candidate for most improved player, and is an all-ACC level player.

His low post game and his outside shooting are outstanding. I’ve been pleased with his rebounding too.

Our staff deserves a lot of credit for his development, but I won’t hold my breath that “fans” like Weslichick are capable of acknowledging it.

I’d like to see PJ work on a few things, including the quality of his screens as well as more patience when he shoots. He rushes shots sometimes.

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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 8, 2022, 10:22 PM

We are terrible at keeping leads and one win, great as it is, doesn’t change that. Good job tigers but lot of work to do

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Re: Nice win today on the road over the Wolfpack.


Jan 10, 2022, 7:52 PM

It was indeed a very nice win! Let's keep it up!

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