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Facks re Arizona audit
Jul 16, 2021, 1:38 PM
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Look, I’m not trying to make anyone question their beliefs or whatever, but let’s just make sure everyone has a few things straight before any sort of conversation is had about this thing. Regarding Maricopa county:
1. The county election board there does an initial, in house audit for accuracy on every election, and for elections that are close, there is a hand recount. Both of those were 100% accurate
2. Then, due to constant protests and action by state republican legislatures, the county hired two outside firms, both certified by US Election Assistance Commission, to do separate audits, each including searching for evidence of malicious software, hardware, source codes, internet connectivity, and accuracy. These two audits had observers from both parties, were live streamed, and found no issues with the election results
Not satisfied, a third audit is now being done at the behest of state Republican officials. The company doing this one is called CyberNinjas. It is owned by a man named Doug Logan, who before his twitter account was banned for promoting Q Anon material, posted and retweeted numerous false claims about election fraud and the election being stolen, including all of the Sidney Powell and Lin Wood conspiracy stuff. This man was in direct contact with Ron Watkins, the owner of 4-Chan turned 8-Kun, widely believed to be the person behind the actual Q posts. Watkins too seems to have become personally invested in this audit. Just to reiterate- this is literally a Q Anon backed audit.
The audit techniques they are using include the use of a UV lamp to detect for folds on envelopes and for traces of bamboo to prove that the ballots came from China, a technology developed by a man named Jovan Pulitzer, most famous for inventing a failed QR code scanner shaped like a cat, who turned into a treasure hunter and has featured on multiple History Channel shows discussing the Arc of the Covenant being buried in a hole off Nova Scotia, brought over by submarining Romans circa 200AD. I swear to God this is a real story.
This third audit is more about show than any sort of meaningful audit. The official audit twitter account (what) is picking fights with and trolling Arizona election officials, and boasting about how many followers it has. The Q pilled people on Telegram etc are watching live streams of this and doing their Q thing, baking some fun new conspiracies and all convinced this is the "first domino" that will see Trump rightfully reclaim his office. This charade has gone on for about three months now, and they’ve had to move locations several times because the first venue needed to host MonsterJam and other stuff like that. Gateway Pundit and all the other MAGA-sphere media is all over this, Trump is all over this.
Anyway, just thought everyone should understand the context of this audit and the background of the people involved. If anyone wants sources please just tel me what you consider reliable and I’ll find you some info if you want to read more.
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All-In [26503]
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You sound skeered ... a little pre-emptive cast of doubt never hurts***
Jul 16, 2021, 1:53 PM
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Re: You sound skeered ... a little pre-emptive cast of doubt never hurts***
Jul 16, 2021, 1:54 PM
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^^^^boiled down version
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Re: You sound skeered ... a little pre-emptive cast of doubt never hurts***
Jul 17, 2021, 10:19 AM
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lol***
Jul 17, 2021, 7:04 PM
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yeet!***
Jul 16, 2021, 1:57 PM
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I think what he's saying is that with all the money paid and
Jul 16, 2021, 2:10 PM
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time spent for this CyberNinja fraudit, there will be at least something presented from all of this that salivating Ever Trumpers can cling to as "proof" of a rigged election. And even though there will be nothing of actual provable substance to produce or share, there will almost assuredly be an allegation or two that "might" have happened. It will be the continued BS accusations that have been going on since the actual vote counting landslid Trump out and Biden in. "Look - see the smoke here? And the smoke there? Definitely some smoke we found," though there will be nothing of substance, just the same tired same ole same ole. It will be enough, however, as it's been shown in the past, to satisfy those desperate not to look like absolute clowns for mortgaging our democracy on the Big Lie.
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Re: I think what he's saying is that with all the money paid and
Jul 16, 2021, 2:37 PM
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So let's see what the audit comes back with and then investigate those claims.
I don't understand why you all are being such pu$$ies about it
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Just calling out this fraudit for what it is, and stating up
Jul 16, 2021, 2:44 PM
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front what folks like you do are going to do with the results, because it's as predictable as a flock of sheep. Sorry that ruffles your wool like it does.
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Re: You sound skeered ... a little pre-emptive cast of doubt never hurts***
Jul 16, 2021, 2:52 PM
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Pre-emptive cast of doubt of what?
That a bunch of amateur-hour partisan derps with freaking OAN stickers all over their freaking cars got their hands on the ballots and have spent six months with them now, breaking chain-of-custody only God knows how many times?
Because yeah, that's how fair audits work. If this sh!t wasn't so freaking dangerous it would be high comedy. This is literally a working version of Idiocracy.
Numerous people have offered to do apples-to-apples tests of the veracity of CyberNinjas' "method". Of course they've "declined"...because they're a$$clowns and we know they're there to come to a predetermined result.
Gosh, I wonder what it could possibly be.
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Re: You sound skeered ... a little pre-emptive cast of doubt never hurts***
Jul 16, 2021, 3:00 PM
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Why don't you just let them do the audit how they want to. And again if their claims are BS then it should easily be proven.
You saying predetermined result makes you sound scared
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Re: You sound skeered ... a little pre-emptive cast of doubt never hurts***
Jul 16, 2021, 3:15 PM
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Because it's anti-democratic, dangerous, sets a dangerous #%$^ing precedent to allow private companies with no experience to do this, and oh, yeah, is basically a dog-and-pony show for Fox/OAN/Newsmax for their endless game of "pretend there's an actual election controversy" which is keeping 30% of America falsely convinced there's an actual election controversy and undermining the legitimacy of our electoral system?
You mean, aside from that?
Sh!tting all over our system of government used to be called "sedition". Now it's just called OAN and Newsmax, and apparently, business as usual for the GOP.
But hey, no biggie, Cult Follower.
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^^^^^^^^^ unbiased independent right here***
Jul 17, 2021, 10:11 AM
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Re: ^^^^^^^^^ unbiased independent right here***
Jul 17, 2021, 11:38 AM
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There is no part of OAN or Newsmax that can co-exist indefinitely with the rest of us.
It is a militant, far-right perspective that preaches conspiracy theory and dangerous disinformation and is radicalizing the far right, and is taking advantage of its freedom of speech to try to rally people against democracy. It has no mechanism for self-correction and it negates truth, by design.
There's really not much room for co-existence with people who believe in its viewpoints, because they are called "Fascists." I know there's a thing called the "First Amendment." I also think those channels are bending the intent. The First Amendment was never intended to create a pointless and largely artificial insurgency for freaking TV ratings, or to sow this level of poisonous disinformation within our own culture. TV or Internet didn't exist when the Constitution was written. This has gone far beyond being a public disservice. What they're doing is actively dangerous.
There is a reason legitimate sponsors avoid those channels like the plague. Heck, even Fox is struggling to obtain legitimate corporate sponsorship these days because increasingly they are getting harder and harder to tell from OAN and Newsmax.
"Unbiased independents" who have never seen those channels before are horrified when they first turn them on. Foreigners who first turn those channels on are horrified.
That should tell you something. Those channels push a viewpoint that is simply incompatible with democratic (little-d) American values.
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It's not a ruse!
Jul 16, 2021, 3:21 PM
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- Sterling Archer
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Re: Facks re Arizona audit
Jul 16, 2021, 3:02 PM
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this is kind of like when the ref's call targeting on the field, but send it up to replay and it is clearly NOT targeting, yet a bunch of people will still complain like little girls about how the game was stolen by the refs. I always thought Republicans were about accountability and personal responsibility, but lately, SOME OF THEM act like pre-adolescent girls whose dad abandoned them.
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Re: Facks re Arizona audit
Jul 16, 2021, 3:13 PM
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You're such an incredible d*ck!
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Re: Facks re Arizona audit
Jul 16, 2021, 3:18 PM
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....talk about aggressively walking into it....
(Not judging bro, but you just did.)
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Re: Facks re Arizona audit
Jul 16, 2021, 3:26 PM
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I edited it for you, my apologies if you are offended, but you know where you are right?
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lol.***
Jul 16, 2021, 4:38 PM
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