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Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
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Jan 9, 2023, 11:18 PM
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There are typically only 3 top teams annuallybover last 10yrs. It was Clemson elite, now add our replacement UGA, Bama, OHST, then you have that step down like 1b's which I will put Clemson there, ND, OKLA which have been seen in CFP often. But there is a team that sneaks in like TCU, Michigan, Oregon but they get beat handedly.
Then you have Tier 2 teams that have tons of talent but don't break into elite like Penn, USC, Ta&m, Texas, and maybe now Clemson and ND are level 2?
But all these Top level teams are going to smoke teams from level 2 teams, G5 teams, and D1 teams from other conferences wont be able to hang with these upper tier teams. So expect big blowouts going forward in the next generation of college football playoffs.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
Jan 10, 2023, 12:47 AM
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I think the portal will create more parody and Cinderella teams. When a 5* qb commits to Bama over, say, Florida, but doesn’t start over another 5*.. he transfers to Florida or Miami or Texas or whatever.. and they start to build.. I guess we’ll find out soon, but not soon enough, imho
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
Jan 10, 2023, 5:57 AM
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Portal, NIL, and more teams can sell the playoff narrative instead of 5-6 that make the playoff every year. Could start to see a lot more parody with the 12 team playoff.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
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Jan 10, 2023, 8:02 AM
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Last night certainly was a parody.
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Totally disagree
Jan 10, 2023, 8:06 AM
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What you will have is the best players from lesser teams joining the blue blood teams as sophomores and juniors. This will make less parody and keep those lesser teams in their spot.
There has to be a one year sit-out rule for transfers that have not graduated…. With no NIL.
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Re: Totally disagree
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Jan 10, 2023, 8:20 AM
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There's nothing anyone, beside Congress &/or states, can do about NIL at this point. Neither schools nor the NCAA can restrict that. And rightfully so in my opinion. I do agree that something needs to happen with the transfers. There should be some kind of penalty if they transfer since they're getting money now. But remember, the majority of kids in the portal aren't there to get more money. They're there to try to find PT before their eligibility is up. I'm not sure hurting them is the answer.
But I don't think that's necessarily true on your parity point. It's going to happen, but what's also going to happen is these blue blood programs are going to start losing high 4/5* star kids b/c they want to play 3 and go to the NFL. Stacking that kind of talent isn't going to be as easy as it was.
I think expansion will cause more parity. Right now there are only a few teams that can legitimately use getting to a playoff as a recruiting pitch.
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Re: Totally disagree
Jan 10, 2023, 8:41 AM
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It might impact quality of depth at the blue blood schools, but look at a team like Maryland. They just lost their 3 best players to the portal. They are hosed. You’re focusing on the 3rd string Bama transfer that can help a lesser school, but that isn’t going to create parody. The biggest issue is the stars on the lesser schools teams transferring out.
Back to the NIL… if you can’t be on the official roster, you can absolutely keep a transfer from receiving NIL.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see scholarships being removed from those receiving NIL in the future. It has to be cleaned up if there’s any hope for college football.
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Re: Totally disagree
Jan 10, 2023, 8:57 AM
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There are absolutely going to be some teams that get hurt. When is the last time Maryland gave a crap about football? Their current HC is a career loser on the field, and a total documented scumbag off of it. Nobody shows up for their games. Maybe that has something to do with actual talented kids not wanting to be there more than the free transfer rule.
I don't know how you would make that work, but I'm certain it would be struck down by SCOTUS.
Now that could be something, but who is going to be first in the pool with that deal?? I sure as hell don't want USC to be the trailblazer there.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
Jan 10, 2023, 11:21 AM
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Go,
I was thinking the opposite - that schools who had unlimited money would start to horde talent like back in the day.
But I read an article the other day that made a point similar to yours - that talent would be more diffused.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few years.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
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Jan 10, 2023, 8:06 AM
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The 8 v 9 and 7 v 10 games will probably be pretty good and everyone will say "SEE THIS WORKS!!" but when it comes to any of the lower ranked teams playing the top 1-3... it is going to be more of the same.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
Jan 10, 2023, 8:33 AM
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Yep and when you get a few injuries to key players in the first round and those teams get housed in the semis it will be even worse. Of course one or two of the bye teams will be lesser since all they did was win their conference so you might get a good semi matchup by accident too.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
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Jan 10, 2023, 8:39 AM
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I don't think the problem is expansion, it's that they continue to overthink it. Why are we guaranteeing a spot for a G5 team?? If they're good enough to be ranked in the top 12, fine. But having a G5 team ranked #21 is a travesty for whoever is ranked #12. That team would have been Tulane, #16 this year. I know they beat SoCal in the bowl. I don't know what the opt out situation was, but I can imagine the Trojans weren't exactly pumped about that matchup after being on the cusp of a playoff.
Also, the top 4 conf champions get a bye and determine seeding. By that logic, Clem would've been a 3 seed and Utah the 4. I'm sure you guys are pumped about that, but can also understand there's no way you should be considered a 3 seed. Same for Utah. TCU goes undefeated and loses their conf championship in OT and we're going to have a 2 loss Clem team and a 3 loss Utah team getting byes? I thought we're just looking to place the best teams??
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
Jan 10, 2023, 8:45 AM
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They are trying not to break the laws in the United States. They don't want to push the envelope and be considered a monopoly. It is actually more complicated than you think.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
Jan 10, 2023, 9:00 AM
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Explain to me like I'm 5 how saying "regardless of conference affiliation, the top 12 in the CFP ranking are going to the playoff." They're currently not included in it at all. I don't know why expansion to actually give them a chance would need to also have a guarantee.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
Jan 10, 2023, 9:12 AM
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First step is to understand how federal judges in California think.
Then you have to look at the top 12 and see that it is dominated by the SEC.
As a bonus, you could look at ESPN and see how they pay a billion dollars a year to broadcast SEC games on TV. And how ESPN's "fair and balanced" "news" influences the top 12.
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Re: Expect more giant blowouts like this when it's a 12 team playoff
Jan 10, 2023, 9:43 AM
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1. Impossible to understand.
2. Top 12 after regular season: 3 SEC, 3 B10, 2 B12, 3 P10, 1 ACC...pretty balanced to me.
3. ESPN sells whatever is hot. They LOVED getting to talk about SoCal again. They LOVE that Michigan is back in the hunt. Couldn't get enough of TCU. I don't remember a single person on ESPN trying to lobby that Bama should get in over OSU when SoCal lost. They loved hyping up the return of the P12 this year.
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I expect the 12 team playoff to ultimately WIDEN the gap
Jan 10, 2023, 9:12 AM
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between the "Have's and the Have Nots". Recruits will see what teams are successful, and go with those teams, because success equals exposure, and exposure equals dollars, at this level and potentially the next.
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Its even worse because NIL and portal will create further
Jan 10, 2023, 10:23 AM
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disparity.
College football becoming a big joke, sad.
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