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It’s usually obvious that the top 3-4 teams are CLEARLY superior to the rest.
Jun 8, 2021, 4:50 PM
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We don’t need an expanded playoff to determine that. Maybe expand to 6 if you wanna get all in yer feels about equity, parity, etc. but I still don’t see a need for 8, 12, 16, 32, etc. teams. Let the lower bowls maintain whatever shred of significance they can…
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Re: It’s usually obvious that the top 3-4 teams are CLEARLY superior to the rest.
Jun 8, 2021, 5:02 PM
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Agreed, I think each they have gotten the four right, but I am okay with 6.
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Re: It’s usually obvious that the top 3-4 teams are CLEARLY superior to the rest.
Jun 8, 2021, 5:03 PM
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I’m in agreement with you. Top four works great. It makes every game on the schedule big, must win games.
I would like to see games against other schools besides D1 shouldn’t count! That will never happen but making the three plus hour trip to Clemson and pay what I pay doesn’t blow my skirt up !
It isn’t worth the price of admission to watch UNCC or Wofford et al.
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Re: It’s usually obvious that the top 3-4 teams are CLEARLY superior to the rest.
Jun 8, 2021, 5:20 PM
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I switch back and forth on it. You know there would be some YUGE upsets every now and then with a Cinderella team that just caught fire late. I wouldn’t mind an 8 team playoff and do away with one of the small games.
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Re: It’s usually obvious that the top 3-4 teams are CLEARLY superior to the rest.
Jun 8, 2021, 5:35 PM
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Four is enough, the more you add the more top teams lose their last game & fans are unhappy!
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Re: It’s usually obvious that the top 3-4 teams are CLEARLY superior to the rest.
Jun 8, 2021, 6:32 PM
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Well if you go to 6, you will have nothing other than 1 or 2 more SEC teams. That will definitely be a given. For you two SEC homers, take Alabama out and you are just like most of the other conferences.
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Exactly.
Jun 8, 2021, 6:26 PM
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The #4 team is almost always well below the other three. There have been a lot of lopsided wins by the #1 team over the #4 team in the playoff era.
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Re: Exactly.
Jun 8, 2021, 6:39 PM
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Usually 2 and there is a slight drop to 3, then 4 is below the 3rd. ND played Bama better than they should have, imo. Look at what we did to ND and what Bama did OSU. Having said that I still have not seen 4 close to being equal and anything beyond that is obsurd, imo.
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Re: Exactly.
Jun 8, 2021, 7:02 PM
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The #1 seeds have won their semi about 71% of the time, #2 seeds about 57% of the time, #3 seeds 43% and #4 seeds 29% of the time. In the championship games, #1 seeds have won twice, and so have the #4 seeds. A #3 seed has never won and the #2 seeds have won three times.
The higher seeds definitely have had a better chance of getting to the championship game. However, once there, it's anyone's game. Unless you're the #3 seed....
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That's been the one, single best benefit of today's formula-
Jun 8, 2021, 6:38 PM
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out of the 4 you are almost assuredly getting a real champion team - a team deserving of not only the opportunity but fully capable of beating anyone in a final. It seems like 3 out of 5 times the BCS gave us that in the final, but 2 out of 5 times there was a 3rd team that could have easily been in the mix or have the shot, maybe a 4th. The LSU vs Bama rematch with Okie State on the outside - pretty much gave us this format.
I still like 8 though for 2 main reasons, which are interlaced. Get Rid of Divisions. We play too many of the same teams every year in conference, don't get to travel as often to cool places during our beautiful southern falls, and lose out on building legitimate rivalries with programs that are naturals for us, and add to the thrill of the sport. We play 3-4 teams annually that could EASILY be replaced more often with 6 of the 7 programs in the Coastal. Every conference with divisions suffers the same scheduling fate. Wasted opportunities for travel, variety, and that little extra bit of spit and vinegar that comes with playing a team often enough to keep the fury burning and hate on fans. It's easy to preserve all true annual rivalries with no divisions and still play everyone in a conference twice every four years at only 8 games. What's not to love. #2
The ACCCG, and all CCG's. 10 teams now in 5 games. Some are winner-take-all. Some are winner-gets-in-while-loser-might-still. Some are glorified exhibition matches. Some are loser-was-in-but-just-blew-its-shot-and-winner-doesn't-cut-it. Less is more. Go back to the glory days of regular season conference champion formats, eliminate these 5 games and play 4 that weekend instead (or better yet a weekend later). 5 teams are the Power 5 regular season champs. With 3 at-larges remaining that is plenty for that one deserving team that didn't get the auto-berth. The top 4 seeds host. That is at least as much, if not more, incentive for a team to dominate its regular season, and one loss, like today, still leaves you a great shot.
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Re: That's been the one, single best benefit of today's formula-
Jun 8, 2021, 6:47 PM
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Yeah that was way longer than intended. Go Tigers.
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agree..but tv wants that money
Jun 8, 2021, 7:55 PM
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and plus the venues that get left out during playoff years want in on that cash as well...have to figure the rose bowl committee just loathes yeas they do not have a playoff game because it relegates their game to being nothing.
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If we assume the goal is to determine the best team, four teams is ideal.
Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM
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But that is a poor assumption.
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Re: It’s usually obvious that the top 3-4 teams are CLEARLY superior to the rest.
Jun 8, 2021, 9:59 PM
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Why even play the conference championship games if you are going to have 12 just put in division winners from each conference. Ridiculous you are going to end up putting teams in the same field that didn't win their conference and we know who is going to benefit the most from this S-E-C.
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Re: It’s usually obvious that the top 3-4 teams are CLEARLY superior to the rest.
Jun 8, 2021, 10:26 PM
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We don’t need an expanded playoff to determine that. Maybe expand to 6 if you wanna get all in yer feels about equity, parity, etc. but I still don’t see a need for 8, 12, 16, 32, etc. teams. Let the lower bowls maintain whatever shred of significance they can…
There is never more than two elite teams and usually only one.
The lower bowls have zero significance at this point.
The expanded playoff is more about inclusion than finding the champion as the champion will emerge either way.
Much better to have 16 or 32 teams in the playoffs eliminating some of the useless regular season games than an 8 team playoff with half of them from the SEC.
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Just let everybody in....
Jun 8, 2021, 11:28 PM
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Expansion will seed further expansion; much like the NCAA tournament, becoming a roulette wheel, a crap shoot-
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