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Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it
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Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jun 30, 2021, 10:11 PM

be ironic if Trump were eventually taken out of politics the same way Al Capone was taken out of crime, via conviction on Tax Evasion? He has not been personally charged yet, but prosecutors are hopeful someone will Ratface him out.

Yes, you don't have to remind me, I voted for him, twice. What Trump is still doesn't make me feel any better about the senile idiot we have in that office now.

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jun 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

Nailing trump will be difficult. So going after the CFO and telling him he'll rot in jail until he dies is a great way to flip him and testify against Trump.

That guy would have to be an idiot not to have records showing what Trump ordered and knew about. Seems easy pickings

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 8:35 PM

uktiger1 said:

Nailing trump will be difficult. So going after the CFO and telling him he'll rot in jail until he dies is a great way to flip him and testify against Trump.

That guy would have to be an idiot not to have records showing what Trump ordered and knew about. Seems easy pickings




In terms of "nailing the CFO" the politically motivated NY AG and Manhattan DA's office really don't have a lot... Weisselberg is accused of failing to pay a personal tax on $1.76 million of perks since 2005. This is on his personal tax filings and has nothing to do with the Trump Organization.

Very rich guys like Weisselberg can afford really good lawyers and considering he entered a "not guilty" plea and what he's been charged with he ain't gonna make a deal when really good lawyers can probably get him off or just pay some kind of fine with penalty to the IRS. Awful easy to make all this look like an honest mistake on his taxes if he actually paid a bunch in taxes during those same tax years.

Unless the prosecution has something a lot more "criminal" on this guy - he is in no real danger of ever seeing a jail cell over this kind of tax issue and ain't going to kill his golden goose (Trump Organization) to make a "deal" in order to save a few bucks that he will gladly hand over to the IRS to make the issue go away.

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Trump will be part of these initial charges, as there are


Jul 1, 2021, 9:07 PM

signed checks by Trump in these initial documents.


The coming months will also include large tax fraud and bank fraud cases. Vance has a five star team of attorney's and they have been building this case over the last two years.

Trump will no longer be able to run for a federal office. He will have a prison sentence, but it will likely be reduced given his age.

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Respectfully disagree... You make your first shot the most


Jul 1, 2021, 9:37 PM

potent because if it fails you may never get another. If this is the most these political hacks in the NY AG and Manhattan DA's office have to "criminally" charge someone after 5 years of digging, they are going to get crushed in court by some very good defense attorneys.

My prediction: Neither Weisselberg nor Trump will ever see a jail cell. At this rate, I doubt Trump is even charged.

But to the bigger point... It's amazing how afraid the Democrats are of Trump. If an incompetent (and senile) lifelong swamp creature politician like Biden can beat Trump then why are they afraid of Trump running again? One would think they would prefer Trump to run since they just beat him and already have all the media and big tech against him. Doesn't seem like the Democrats are real confident in their ability to stitch together another 80 million votes to beat Trump should he run again in 2024.

IMO Ron DeSantis should be the biggest worry for the Democratic Party. DeSantis is every bit as popular among Trump supporters and doesn't have Trump's negative baggage. We will see how it plays out but the Democratic wish to get something on Trump in order to prohibit him from running in 2024 reminds me of the old adage: "Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it"...

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You confused, Chucky


Jul 2, 2021, 10:02 PM [ in reply to Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it ]

State charges, not Federal. The IRS is Federal.

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jun 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

Trump can just go Clinton on him if any of the crap is true. Convenient mass suicide has kept Bill and Hillary out of jail for years. Why can't everyone just go that route?

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jun 30, 2021, 10:44 PM



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Very true. Policies that are far superior to


Jun 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

Pedo Joe, but definitely arrogant. Trump on twitter was bad. But his policies made the country better.

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Did some good things


Jun 30, 2021, 11:53 PM

I thought the wall was a stupid hill to die on. Cartel already has tunnels built by miners coming into Texas.

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So, we should just give up...


Jul 1, 2021, 12:05 AM

...and let em all in? No thanks.

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Re: So, we should just give up...


Jul 1, 2021, 1:16 AM

Biden has built a red carpet instead of the wall….

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We’re letting people in anyway


Jul 1, 2021, 3:20 AM

While the whole world mocks us.

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Re: Did some good things


Jul 1, 2021, 7:54 AM [ in reply to Did some good things ]

Tunnels? And you know this how?

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From the television


Jul 1, 2021, 1:24 PM

It’s well documented. They find tunnels and destroy them sometimes.

For some reason they just keep popping up. It’s like the cartel has everyone in control or something.

I think if we could work with Mexico to fight corruption people wouldn’t be spilling over the border trying to escape

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A ranking of presidents was recently completed. Trump is


Jul 1, 2021, 9:16 PM [ in reply to Very true. Policies that are far superior to ]

ranked 41st out of 44 presidents. See link below.




https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/06/30/trump-ranks-41-of-44-presidents-in-survey-of-historians-as-obama-cracks-top-10/?sh=22ff1d532aa8

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Is evading local taxes defunding the police?***


Jun 30, 2021, 11:24 PM



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putin was correct at the presser


Jul 1, 2021, 12:10 AM

they use the law over here to attack politicians they do not like..yet they want to talk about how he runs his business in russia

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How dare us question Putin whacking anyone who


Jul 1, 2021, 3:21 AM

Speaks out against him

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we just use the law to do that to


Jul 1, 2021, 10:39 PM

opponents over here.

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

It’s going to be interesting if biden can go a full 4 years, having accomplished nothing positive for the country, except take out every single enemy on the right who speaks out against him. I mean at this point, we’re basically becoming Russia. You’ve got the NSA breaking into Tucker Carlsons phone to bring him down. Trump , Giuliani, on and on and on now cheating on taxes. Putin finds a way to take out dissidents, and biden is following this to a end degree.

Now he learned how to use the IRS as a weapon from Obama, they screwed up and let that one actually become public(tea party).

It’s really amazing, the only folks undoubtedly breaking the law are people who are against biden. I mean the odds of that are just astronomical.

Thank God we now have a President we can all look upon as a great leader in the Privileged House

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 5:58 AM

This literally makes zero sense.

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You might want to check the batts on your sarcasm meter,


Jul 1, 2021, 7:46 AM

I think it might have the brokes.

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If the country is still intact in 4 years


Jul 1, 2021, 10:36 AM [ in reply to Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it ]

and not in an economic depression, Biden will have overachieved.

That being said, the IRS has always been used as a weapon, when needed. Herbert Hoover used the IRS as a weapon against Al Capone. Maybe that's where Obama learned about the trick, lol.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/02/28/famous-tax-cheats/5903143/


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The 5 year witch hunt continues...


Jul 1, 2021, 12:21 AM

...if they can't get him on criminal charges they will try with simple process charges and squeeze anyone associated with him. Same crap they did with Flynn, Manafort, Stone, etc. The full weight of the federal government will harass this man til the end of time. And you know what? I would vote for him a 3rd time. Happily.

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48 years:


Jul 1, 2021, 9:21 AM

https://crushthelsatexam.com/deep-dive-donald-trumps-long-history-of-lawsuits/


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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 7:49 AM

So if a president comes in trying to help the people by dismantling the deep state he can look forward to a full on attack from all branches of gov until they find something to put him in jail? Gotta make an example of him so all future Pols are afraid to do anything but look the other way!

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This indictment might hold more water...


Jul 1, 2021, 8:37 AM

if the Manhattan district attorney and the New York attorney general who filed the charges weren't anti-Trump liberal puppets.

I can't help but wonder, if there are in fact tax evasion crimes involving employee benefits, why didn't the IRS pursue this?

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 8:46 AM

Teflon Don will get out of it as he always does. He has too much dirt on too many people and too many slimy politicians beholden to him.

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 8:53 AM

I would say 90 percent of multi millionaires could be indicted or have
some kind of tax evasion charge if their business and tax dealings were put under the microscope that the left has put on Trump.

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 7:56 PM

It will be a huge favor to the right if Trump is "handcuffed" enough to keep him from running....

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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 8:00 PM

Another person from Trump's inner circle charged. How many is that now?



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Re: Trump Organization Indicted by Grand Jury. Wouldn't it


Jul 1, 2021, 8:05 PM

I just don;t see an ex-president sitting in jail for anything less than a meat locker full of dead hookers, that is just me. I think the idea is to take away all the peeps that have been protecting him, get a chunk of his money, andleave hi to the wolves.. But throwing him in jail will just light a fire under his supporters to the likes you have never seen, and I just do not see federal prosecutors, nor the SDNY taking it this far. They will just chip away at his money and resources until he is defenseless, at best.

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Feds have no interest in pursuing him


Jul 2, 2021, 10:14 PM

They would have an easy conviction with the payoffs - he is already guilty by jury by proxy as co-conspirator #1 in Michael Cohen's felony conviction. I'm certain the NSA is monitoring him now, given the risk he will sell whatever sensitive information he can remember as his debts come due. Luckily he is the first former president barred from receiving intelligence briefings - not that the IC ever told him everything, anyway. The most I can see happening is a warning behind the scenes.

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