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Time to shut up Jimbo - illegal block photos from all sides
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Time to shut up Jimbo - illegal block photos from all sides


Oct 31, 2016, 4:45 PM

Here are multiple angles of the illegal crackback block made by the FSU fullback on Van Smith. The front view - which was not replayed or shown in slow motion - proves the FSU fullback came from behind/side and made contact with Van Smith's side (~5 o'clock position) and rolled the block down through Van Smiths backside. In order for the block to be legal the FSU fullback would have had to make contact with Van Smith's front side between the 10 to 2 o'clock position - basically Van Smith's front right thigh. Clearly that was not the case. Ref made the correct call and I bet the ACC will confirm as such.


Images just before FSU fullback makes contact - clearly not from a position between 10 - 2 o'clock of Van Smith's front:







Image as FSU fullback makes contact with Van Smith:



Image as FSU fullback completes the block (now on Van Smiths backside) and Van Smith begins to fall:







Slow motion frame captures from the side:







Slow motion frame captures from the opposite side:




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WHAT ABOUT THE FREAKING HOLD ON BB???????***


Oct 31, 2016, 4:47 PM



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Yep, pulling the collar of his jersey from behind him***


Oct 31, 2016, 4:50 PM



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Re: WHAT ABOUT THE FREAKING HOLD ON BB???????***


Oct 31, 2016, 4:51 PM [ in reply to WHAT ABOUT THE FREAKING HOLD ON BB???????*** ]

I'm convinced. Send it to Jimbo and the experts on espin

They wouldn't understand however !

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Hadn't noticed that,you're right !


Oct 31, 2016, 4:51 PM [ in reply to WHAT ABOUT THE FREAKING HOLD ON BB???????*** ]

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Watkins is being held too.


Oct 31, 2016, 4:55 PM [ in reply to WHAT ABOUT THE FREAKING HOLD ON BB???????*** ]

nm

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Holding in the End Zone Photo?


Oct 31, 2016, 4:57 PM

Anyone got a photo of the clear FSU hold on us in the endzone, with Frency standing in the endzone waiting to pass? I thought it was clear and not called.

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Not to mention the clear holds on Bouleware and Watkins


Oct 31, 2016, 4:51 PM

in the first couple of pictures...

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It initial contact was at 3 o' clock...


Oct 31, 2016, 4:52 PM

...and I'm being fair to generous when I make that statement. Clearly not 10 to 2 like you said. This is clearly an ILLEGAL block below the waste. I don't know if there was confusion as I was in the stadium and I thought I heard "chop-block" and assume that's why FSU fans were mad but it don't matter...it's still a valid flag for an illegal block.

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Re: It initial contact was at 3 o' clock...


Oct 31, 2016, 5:05 PM

You never heard "chop block" come from the Referee's mouth. He very clearly said, "illegal block below the waist." Only Dumbo and his media lap-dogs have used that term. Us "old guys" used to have a more concise term for it... "clipping."

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Re: It initial contact was at 3 o' clock...


Oct 31, 2016, 5:22 PM [ in reply to It initial contact was at 3 o' clock... ]

The ref called it right - he said: "Personal foul, block below the waist, offense, number 23, 15 yard penalty, first down". The ref was correct all the way round even his arm signals were correct (indicated a block below the waist - not a chop block). So not only is Jimbo's eyesight bad, apparently his hearing is bad as well if he heard chop block...

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Re: It initial contact was at 3 o' clock...


Oct 31, 2016, 6:12 PM

Made me think of this...NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yInw8LyWTN8

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Face Mask on Watson, NO CALL


Oct 31, 2016, 7:47 PM [ in reply to Re: It initial contact was at 3 o' clock... ]



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jimbo said the chop block was above the waist***


Oct 31, 2016, 4:54 PM



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What should have happened...


Oct 31, 2016, 4:57 PM

"Holding. 81, offense. 10 yard penalty, repeat first down."

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There's something in these hills.


Nope...should have been three flags thrown...


Oct 31, 2016, 4:59 PM

for the three violations then pick the one to go with...

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Re: Time to shut up Jimbo - illegal block photos from all sides


Oct 31, 2016, 5:00 PM

Shoulder pad right into Van's butt. Holding on Ben. Jimbo has lost a lot of respect from me. Do not comment penalties and they will not get called. We got screwed way worse IMO.

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Don't miss the hold on Watkins.


Oct 31, 2016, 5:07 PM

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The refs clearly called that one correct.


Oct 31, 2016, 5:11 PM

Luckily Dabo kept his cool about all the ones they missed, like the hold in the end zone and the face mask on Watson. Can you imagine if Dabo had lost his cool about those ACTUAL misses and cost the team a penalty? That would be super-embarrassing.

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When do we get our 2 points off the non-called safety?


Oct 31, 2016, 5:15 PM



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what's so freakin obvious here is that the blocker NEVER


Oct 31, 2016, 5:16 PM

gets his pads in front of V Smith - NEVER.

At best his helmet hits Smith in the side. But you don't block with your helmet - at least not legally.

And the contact of the Shoulder pad to block is high on the rump/hip.

This was A PERFECT CALL. There was nothing at all wrong with it.

It's not really even argumentative except for those who aren't very good at parsing arguments

of the wheat and the chaff.

The confused stay confused no matter how good the call.

Outside of Tackle and downfield? YES.
Block in back? YES.
Block below the waist? YES.

15 yards, mi amigo.

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Re: Time to shut up Jimbo - illegal block photos from all sides


Oct 31, 2016, 5:33 PM

Son Ben gets fisted 4 frames in? Some question his speed, but how often does this happen? Me thinks Ben gets molested a little more than enough see...me thinks he's good...but I'm a T.L.HANNA grad...also, I went to BH-P, AND my mom wrote their Alma mater! I'm partial, and subjective lol

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great post. Are we playing "how many fouls can you


Oct 31, 2016, 5:34 PM

find in this picture?" If so, at least 3. Hand full of jesey, arms extended grabbing, etc in addition to the flag that WAS thrown appropriately

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Did they stop calling it a clip.


Oct 31, 2016, 7:51 PM

I don't remember when they made clipping legal. It was clearly a clip.

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This just in...


Oct 31, 2016, 7:55 PM

Texas beat Baylor
Penn State beat the pants off of Purdue
(And somehow), Sackerlina beat Tennessee...cottam coots!

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Devils advocate


Oct 31, 2016, 8:31 PM

Let me say, the way FSU handled the penalty did more harm than the penalty.

Now for the counter argument if I was inclined to make one. The block started above the waist. It clearly ended below the waist. Doesn't the block have to start below the waist for that rule to apply?

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Re: Devils advocate


Oct 31, 2016, 9:12 PM

Even with that the FB Stevenson still took his left hand and clipped Van Smith up afterwards so the call stands. IMO that's what really drew the flag from the officials anyway. Go look at the video clip of it... you can see after he hit Smith he clips him up with his hand.

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It looks and feels like a penalty to me,but it


Oct 31, 2016, 9:25 PM

would be nice to hear from some respected officials. Why ESPN bothers to have an ex official during the broadcast is beyond me, because he either doesn't know the rule, or they talk over him. He never really explained anything.

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Just rewatched the game


Oct 31, 2016, 9:29 PM

In addition to the Illegal Block Below The Waist, the hold and Big Ben(1st pic)and the hold on Watkins(1st pic) ,the replay also shows that Fields was held on this very same play. That's 4, any prizes? Steak knives ect ? LOL

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