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DEFENSE FOR 2021
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DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 14, 2021, 11:06 AM

I think we are going to take a big step forward this year on D compared to the last 2 seasons.

Trenton Simpson has all the tools, was just caught out of place a few times last year against our tougher opponents.

I truly believe Barret Carter is going to be like a Derwin James type player for us, depending on how he physically developed. May end up more of a LB but he and Simpson have a huge future.

All reports indicate that Murphy and Bresee are looking great, Davis is solid, and we have plenty of talent to find that 4th guy for the Dline

Lavonta Bentley is someone I’ve been excited about since we signed him. It’s taken longer than I expected, but I think he has a breakout year.

It looks like we could get some production from Swint this year as well!

On to the secondary..... I’m confident in Booth locking down one side, it sounds like Fred Davis is going to lock down the other. I really want Zanders to be great but man he got exposed a lot last year. Maybe Charleston or Pickens shores up that spot.

Thoughts?

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Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 14, 2021, 11:25 AM

IMO safety is an absolute liability. Turner is a good solid player, but we've actually been so bad we have forgotten what good fast playmaker back there look like. Zanders is a hit or miss guy. Takes a ton of chances, plays fast, but gets burned A LOT. Booth should be good. Think Greene and Davis are good too. Sheridan Jones seems like a solid player but not a one on one lockdown type of guy like booth and the rest. But we don't need two corners to necessarily do that all the time. At linebacker we would be ten times better if Jake Venables played special teams only, because he's a giant liability. Skalski is great, Simpson is great, especially with a step forward playing faster with recognition and confidence like I'd expect this year. Bentley really surprised me last year. He's a monster. There IS a big difference in coming in for a couple plays and being good at blitzing vs being an every down all game type of guy, so hopefully he's going to do that this year. We will see on the others. McGuire and Patterson look like normal guys but not game changers. DL should be awesome. I expect Bresee, Davis, Murphy, and whoever else that gets the nod to be great. Excited to see Page and the other giant guy from last year (can't remember his name, starts with a D I think at tackle)

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Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 14, 2021, 12:14 PM

Demonte Capeheart. He is huge. Should be fun to watch

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Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 14, 2021, 1:28 PM

I think DT is fine and guys like capehart and page have massive futures but we may see some veterans getting more of the backup snaps (at least in first part of season) like Jeffry and 33 and 32. At end it’s interesting because the spot opposite 98 is screaming for someone to emerge and dominate and to me is really 3s for the taking of he wants he, he has more natural ability than other options and just needs to stay healthy and get back in game shape. At LB I really like Bentley and trotter to emerge as 2s and maybe Carter emerges as the 2 at SAM. The move of swint was great we were over at LB and light at end. Win-win. I’m not worried about corner think some combination of booth Davis Jones and Goodrich gets the job done. I share the concerns at S, we need better play back there. It seems all of them are good in some areas of the game but have liabilities in other areas, we really need to find studs back there some of these first and second year high star types need to step up.

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Mar 14, 2021, 8:33 PM

Yeah thats him. I also forgot about Trotter and Carter. I think Carter is going to be an absolute stud. Reminds me of Tony steward without the thickness. People keep talking of him at safety but he isn't built for that at all IMO. I'd be floored if he actually played there. And trotter looks like he will be pretty good too.

We don't need a DeAndre McDaniel back there necessarily, but if we can find a Jadar Johnson or two I think we can win a NC

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Mar 15, 2021, 11:15 AM

Zanders is going to great one day. Off the charts athleticism. I think he’ll end up being one of the best safeties we’ve had. His ceiling is higher than K’Von, Muse, Jayron, and TJ Green. He played hurt last year and Clemson’s defensive line couldn’t generate a consistent pass rush. Not exactly a recipe for success for a first year starter at safety.

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Mar 15, 2021, 10:39 PM

Agree to disagree on that one. Small guy without elite speed, but a ballhawk nonetheless. He's entering his third year. Whens the cieling coming?

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Mar 16, 2021, 12:26 PM

How do you consider him a "small guy"?

He is 6'1" 200 lbs.

For comparison K'Von Wallace is listed at 5'11" 205 on the Eagles roster currently.

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Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 16, 2021, 2:15 PM

Zanders is bigger and more athletic than K’Von, who didn’t start until his 3rd year. And Zanders has more range too. I’ll reiterate...he played hurt last year with a defensive line that couldn’t generate a consistent pass rush. He’s going to be really really good. Just be patient.

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K"Von contributed as a true freshman, he also has


Mar 16, 2021, 3:05 PM

considerably more range than Zanders...Wallace subbed in at CB originally for God's sake, Zanders doesn't have that level of athleticism...At this point, he is a poor,poor, poorman's Van Smith

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Re: K"Von contributed as a true freshman, he also has


Mar 16, 2021, 4:36 PM

I mean, K’Von didn’t have 2 NFL draft picks and 2 more veterans in front of him at safety when he was a freshman either. Zanders had K’Von, Tanner, Nolan, and Denzel Johnson in front of him. Him not contributing much as a freshman is unsurprising. But, I guess we will see. I believe Zanders has a high ceiling and will be a day 2 draft pick. Let’s hope that he gets there.

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wait, are you trying to tell me we had better depth at S the


Mar 16, 2021, 7:16 PM

past two years than we had when Wallace was competing with Jadar Johnson, Van Smith and Tanner Muse? And you list Denzel Johnson and Nolan Turner as your proof? Thanks for the laugh

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Re: wait, are you trying to tell me we had better depth at S the


Mar 17, 2021, 12:15 PM

Jadar Johnson and Van Smith never played a down in the NFL. Tanner and K’Von had to compete against a freshman Nolan Turner and Denzel Johnson for playing time.

Fast forward to Zanders freshman year. Tanner and K’Von are seniors, both get drafted. So, they are better than Jadar and Van Smith. Then, Zanders had to compete with a 4th year Nolan Turner and 5th year Denzel Johnson, who were better than they were their freshman years.

But, what do I know?

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Re: K"Von contributed as a true freshman, he also has


Mar 16, 2021, 4:36 PM [ in reply to K"Von contributed as a true freshman, he also has ]

I mean, K’Von didn’t have 2 NFL draft picks and 2 more veterans in front of him at safety when he was a freshman either. Zanders had K’Von, Tanner, Nolan, and Denzel Johnson in front of him. Him not contributing much as a freshman is unsurprising. But, I guess we will see. I believe Zanders has a high ceiling and will be a day 2 draft pick. Let’s hope that he gets there.

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Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 17, 2021, 10:14 AM [ in reply to Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021 ]

My comment was directed at Dehamp.

I'm not sure where I stand on Zanders future development, but he certainly can't be called small for a safety.

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Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 16, 2021, 6:26 AM

A consistent pass rush presence from the DE position would relieve stress on the other 2 levels of the defense, reduce risk by reducing the necessity of the blitz to manufacture a pass rush, & possibly get better athletes on the field particularily at the 2nd level. BTW, the sack #s spread across the defense is not necessarily a good thing, it's evidence.

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Your opening post is great


Mar 16, 2021, 2:36 PM

I'll just add these thoughts:

D-line should be great, both against the run and rushing the passer.

Our LB corps is right behind them (LOL, I don't mean that literally). In addition to being a great Mike, Skalski is the perfect mentor to our younger players. I expect Simpson to go next level and Trotter will become an impact player during the season. Barrett Carter has incredible long term upside but since he isn't coming in early, we'll see how much he picks up as a freshman.

Booth is one of our most gifted corners in a very long time. He is very physical, has great instincts and speed along with good hands.

My main concern on defense is safety.

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Mar 16, 2021, 2:53 PM

My main concern is pass rusher. We just haven't had one that can really get to the QB in a 4-man rush for awhile.

I liked what I saw of Myles Murphy early but like a lot of freshmen he seemed to wear down a bit late. Honestly KJ Henry and Xavier Thomas have never remotely come close to living up to their 5-star billings; Thomas has flashed here and there but I don't even know he'd be drafted at the moment and that's not what you look for as the #3 or #5 guy in the country coming out of high school. Justin Mascoll has been Just Some Guy. If somebody else is going to assert themselves now would be a lovely time. That's a long way from the days when we had, say, Vic Beasley backed up by Shaq Lawson or Cle Ferrell on one side and Austin Bryant on the other.

That's been the biggest difference between our D the last two years, and our D in years prior; our latest batch of mega-recruits haven't lived up to their recruiting accolades whereas Christian Wilkins/Dexter Lawrence/Cle Ferrell etc assuredly did. If we can start getting some heat with a 4-man rush again, I think our D starts looking a whole lot saltier again.

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It's almost like recruiting regressed under


Mar 16, 2021, 3:02 PM

Streeter, regardless of the overall class rankings...OL, DL,S,WR all have serious talent gaps that we are having to overcome with these last couple of classes...We made our early run on primarily Jeff Scott's talent, particularly on the OL/DL

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Mar 16, 2021, 5:41 PM

Have to agree with you on that one. Although, I would add Marion Hobby to that as well. He'd take the Line and really seriously challenge the offensive line. As Dabo says, Iron!

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Re: It's almost like recruiting regressed under


Mar 17, 2021, 8:28 AM [ in reply to It's almost like recruiting regressed under ]

When you have NFL starters come back for an extra season it has an impact on the development of your depth. Yes we had a gap after Christian and Dex left but it would be impossible not to. Davis and Murphy give us a chance to get back to that level on the interior. To Q's point, eating up the middle will open up the pass rush with 4 and shorten the time our DBs have to defend.

Venables spent 2019 adjusting to life without an elite DL and used his LBs to bring pressure. Last season he saw the talent but the experience and injuries let him down. This season he has all the pieces and it is up to the Offense and OL to give us a chance in the playoffs.

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Mar 17, 2021, 8:30 AM

Sorry Davis and Bresee

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Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 16, 2021, 6:01 PM [ in reply to Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021 ]

Long time no see Q. Love you guys for providing me a wonderful thread to follow. Good info. Ok, that out the way, question 4 u xperts.

1. I hope we'll all be very pleasant surprise with Myles this year and he balls out. Pulling that summer will get XT bulb bright as predicted.

2. We have Demonte and Tre Williams along with the others. Does Page come in and be Davis freshman year?

3. What about putting Brease as DE? Thoughts?

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Mar 16, 2021, 8:12 PM

I don’t hate the idea of Bressee playing DE, but I’d rather have him inside and another long rangey DE that can run. I think Murphy could bust out to be one of those big name DEs around the country. I do believe that a full year recovery for XT and him having a now-or-never attitude will create an unbelievable duo of Defensive ends. We will have at least 3 top 10 former 5 stars on the field at the same time, with experience! The last time we had 3 5 stars starting and one High 4* was the power rangers.

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Mar 16, 2021, 6:09 PM [ in reply to Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021 ]

Pass rush should be fine this year.

Last year, after teams saw what Murphy did rushing the passer the first two games, they make sure he wasn't going to beat them again. It was continual double teams. Honestly, I felt sorry for the guy.

This year we need another DE to step up. If nobody does, they can put Bresee on the other side to fix the problem.

Hopefully XT becomes what we've all been waiting for.

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Mar 16, 2021, 8:07 PM [ in reply to Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021 ]

This post has had the most comments of any I’ve ever posted! AND quozzell commented..... I feel like I’m moving up in the world!!!

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Re: DEFENSE FOR 2021


Mar 16, 2021, 11:32 PM

Congratulations. Good post. You should post more often. I know some good things will come out of our loss to osu. Especially as Myles said how osu moved the line and spread them out. CBV will learn from that and won't get played like that again...

Hopefully with a full year of s&c for Bresee and another for Davis and then have Tre (who's supposed to be a beast) and Capehart bringing fresh legs can clog the gaps with double teams etc and we can have a great push on the pocket. Then have Myles and team eliminate the QB having 5 seconds to roam free and fire downfield. I think we'll see much better competition from the ACC also. And of course the first game.

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All that linebacker and secondary stuff is great. BUT, we


Mar 16, 2021, 7:56 PM

need us a Power Rangers Part Deaux pass rush if we are truly going to take it all the way.

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