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Deer Kelly Bryant bashing crybabies...
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Nov 13, 2017, 11:14 AM

Since some of you are obsessed with bashing Kelly Bryant, maybe take a breather and look at the facts as opposed to your overly emotional "eye test".

The most important passing stat for a QB is pass completions. Can the QB complete the throws he is being asked to make? Well, Kelly Bryant has a 65.3% completion rate (181 completions out of 277 attempts). That is 14th in the nation, and the highest completion rate in the ACC. He has thrown 5 interceptions (not all of which were his fault but we will go with it) which comes to 1 interception per every 55.4 attempts (which is better than Mason Randolph). He averages 6.9 yards per pass attempt and before you "bash" that number, consider that there are only three QB's in the nation (Baker Mayfield, McKenzie Milton, and Mason Rudolph) that average over 10 yards per attempt with Mayfield having the highest at 11.9 yards per attempt. Most QB's in all of college football are throwing the ball less than 10 yards per attempt.

Bottom line, Kelly Bryant has done and is doing a great job at leading this team as a passer and runner. He is a successful and effective QB for what he is being asked to do while completing the majority of the passes he is asked to make. He is our best overall QB on the roster, who understands the totality of the offense better than any of the other QB's and has proven he makes more correct "reads" than bad reads. The fact that we are not having to sling the ball 50 times a game to win is a good thing (we average 27.7 passes per game) - it means our running and passing game is in balance and makes us a more difficult team to defend (i.e. we aren't one dimensional).

So please, can we stop with the crazy posts bashing Kelly Bryant - he is leading this Tiger team to an ACC Chapmionship game and possibly the playoffs. Give the guy some credit will you. Unlike those on here bashing him - Kelly Bryant has EARNED some much deserved respect for how well he has played in games this year. Besides, all of your gnashing of teeth and whining is not going to change a thing or the fact that Kelly Bryant will remain (and rightfully so) our starting QB so long as he is healthy.

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Nov 13, 2017, 11:24 AM

Like it or not, winning football is ALL about moving the chains. It’s really that simple . If your QB can do that, he will not lose many games.... ever

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Nov 13, 2017, 11:39 AM

I love you man. Preach! These KB haters need to go down to Cootlumbia and pull for Bentley. He is Herman material.

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I'm just keepn it real***


Nov 13, 2017, 11:47 AM



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Nov 13, 2017, 12:10 PM

FACTS!!!!!!

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Fact-s, we don't need no stinking fact-s.


Nov 13, 2017, 1:51 PM

All we need is for Kelly to hang a 1 lb weight on his arm, that will bring the ball down right on plane for all the receivers. Problem solved.

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Nov 13, 2017, 12:12 PM

Lawrence next year!

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Nov 13, 2017, 12:17 PM

why are you here?

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I for one am glad you are stopping. You are one of the most ignorant posters ever. You obviously think very highly of your own opinion, unlike the rest of us - RockHillTiger


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Nov 13, 2017, 12:18 PM [ in reply to Re: Deer Kelly Bryant bashing crybabies... ]

3rd string yea.

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I know he will be 2nd string at worst.


Nov 13, 2017, 12:20 PM

He will get plenty of PT though and will show out and people will be calling for him. He's that good.

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Nov 13, 2017, 1:58 PM

Johnson will know the system much better. Cooper already knows it. KB will be the starter. I know TL may be great but he has to learn the O. I don't see him as back up next year.

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Don't you have some poke'mons to catch or something like that?***


Nov 13, 2017, 1:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Deer Kelly Bryant bashing crybabies... ]



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Nov 13, 2017, 12:22 PM

He’s 57th in passing yards and 110th in passing TDs. That’s just awful. He can’t throw a deep ball to save his life.

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Nov 13, 2017, 1:55 PM

Or maybe our receivers are having drop issues, or are being interfered with.

And then there is the fact that we are just simply a more run based offense this year, which has been working and will continue to work.

FWIW, you can't poast to save your life.

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Nov 13, 2017, 3:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Deer Kelly Bryant bashing crybabies... ]

> He’s 57th in passing yards and 110th in passing TDs.
> That’s just awful. He can’t throw a deep ball to save
> his life.

Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit, so let me spell it out for you in easy terms: Fewer passing attempts = less total passing yards. Ability to run the ball = less passing yards.

In other words, the total passing yardage stat is incomplete without considering total rushing yards and Redzone scoring. Why would anyone in their right mind pass for a TD when they can safely run the ball into the endzone? Clemson has 31 rushing TD's. We are ranked tenth overall in rushing TD's and are the number 1 team for rushing TD's in the ACC (even more than GT whose bread and butter is running the ball).

Because Clemson has a balanced offense (i.e. we can run the ball successfully) we don't risk putting the ball in the air as much as other teams and will naturally have less yards passing. Our rushing stats are very good (220 yds per game) and is 3rd in the ACC (GT #1, Louisville #2, Clemson #3). We also score 88.6% of the time in the Redzone - 3rd in the ACC (Wake #1, Miami #2, Clemson #3). We would be even higher in the Redzone if our field goal kicker was reliable.

At the end of the day, offense is about scoring points - regardless if it is done by passing or running the ball. Clemson has scored the most points of all the ACC teams in ACC conference play (257 points) and is third in the ACC for overall points scored against all opponents (327 points). Only Louisville (368 points) and Wake (351 points) have scored more total overall points against all opponents.

It is a fact that Kelly Bryant's passing is not hurting Clemson's offense or our ability to score points and win games. He throws the ball with enough accuracy that defenses can't simply stack the box and make us abandon the run and become one dimensional. Kelly Bryant is not DW4 and never will be. He is KB2 and throws with enough accuracy (i.e. 65.3% completion rate) and distance to compliment our running game in a balanced offensive attack that has resulted in 9 wins this season.

PS... Bryant can throw a deep ball and has done so with about the same accuracy as most QB's. Most QB's in college will only hit 50% or less of the balls they throw beyond 35 yards. That is why they call these passes "low percentage passes". KB2 is well within the normal range for such passes. We all became spoiled to DW4 who could routinely beat that average on the deep ball but he also had a lot of help from some exceptional receivers (i.e. Mike Williams) - both of which we do not have this year.

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Nov 13, 2017, 4:02 PM

> It is a fact that Kelly Bryant's passing is not
> hurting Clemson's offense or our ability to score
> points and win games. He throws the ball with enough
> accuracy that defenses can't simply stack the box and
> make us abandon the run and become one dimensional.

That's just not true. It really isn't hard to scheme an offense who throws 5-yard passes or 50/50 balls. You never see defenses play cover 2 because they bring a safety down to help against RPO. They don't need to bracket cover the best WR corps in the nation because KB can't hit the broad side of a barn over 10 yards. WRU and 7 TD passes all year!

>
> PS... Bryant can throw a deep ball and has done so
> with about the same accuracy as most QB's. Most QB's
> in college will only hit 50% or less of the balls
> they throw beyond 35 yards.

KB has hit 23% (7 for 30) of his passes that traveled in the air over 20 yards. That is terrible. I would guess of 23 he missed, 15 of them were wide open easy TD's. I lost count after the last game. Again, that is terrible.

He is 46% (14 for 30) when the ball travels between 11-15 yards. Remember when it was 3rd and 10+ and it just felt like they had a chance with DW4 or Tajh? It's punt time with KB.


And I keep hearing how great of a runner he is. Yeah, he is good. Not great. Doesn't make up for the lack of passing ability. He has been less than good these past few games (see above about the scheming).

HJ is a better passer. Give the kid a chance just like they gave DW4. That is the only way they win the CFP this year. If it doesn't work out, TL is coming.

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Nov 13, 2017, 3:36 PM

You can really make stats say what you want to I guess. Not surprising you didn't want to mention there are 64 QBs between Baker Mayfield and Kelly in yards per attempt. Mason Rudolph has a worse completion percentage and a 3+ yard better yard per attempt. Here are some more stats.

KB QBR rankings
Whole game
1st quarter, 39th
2nd quarter, outside the top 100
3rd quarter, outside the top 100
4th quarter, outside the top 100
3rd down 7-9 yards to go, outside the top 100 (77th overall in completion percentage)
3rd down 10+ yards to go, 86th

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