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Dabo will not leave Clemson. IMO
Sep 17, 2013, 1:07 PM
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Look guys, it is certainly fair to make the assumption that Dabo would leave Clemson for Alabama, BUT even though Dabo is an Alabama boy at heart, he loves Clemson and this program. It is where he was given his chance as a head football coach and Dabo, to me, seems like someone that takes that very seriously.
I feel like Dabo believes that he can win a national championship at Clemson and I think he can too. Dabo is not going anywhere and you can go ahead and mark that down. I will certainly eat crow if he proves me wrong, but I am standing by my opinion that Dabo (regardless of the fact that he went to Alabama) is a CLEMSON man and he wants to take Clemson to the top. He has built so much here, I think there is no way he leaves.
Now Chad and Brent are two different stories, all of this is really a waste of conversation because no one leaves till after this season, so lets just wait and see. GO TIGERS BEAT NC STATE.
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Re: Dabo will not leave Clemson. IMO
Sep 17, 2013, 1:09 PM
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I agree. I don't see Dabo leaving Clemson.
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Re: Dabo will not leave Clemson. IMO
Sep 17, 2013, 1:53 PM
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I don't see Dabo leaving soon. I don't see him leaving for most jobs, but there are a few that, IMO, he would take. Alabama, obviously, is one, but a) that job isn't coming open any time soon and b) Tide nation won't react well to a Dabo hire. They will want a more proven head coach, unless we're talking 5 years down the road and even then, he might not fit that bill. Saban was a proven program builder at Michigan St. and LSU.
He doesn't seem to be an ego guy, so if things are going well in Tigertown, he sticks around. If we go through some ups and downs over the next 5 years, he might become less satisfied. Suppose Clemson takes a step back, i.e., top 15-25 with one or two seasons where we struggle and lose some games we shouldn't.
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CM leaves = no NC***
Sep 17, 2013, 1:09 PM
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Dont think for one second that Dabo hasnt logged everything
Sep 17, 2013, 1:11 PM
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that Coach Morris has done. Coach Morris is phenomenal OC and I will hate to see him go, but A) We can find another OC with the same style of offense or B) Dabo could run the offense IMO....Dabo has learned a lot from Coach Morris, you better believe it.
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Logging what? Are you saying the plays are scripted the
Sep 17, 2013, 2:01 PM
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whole game? There has to be analysis and adjustments. CM is like a mad scientist. You just can't teach instinct and intuition.
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It's not like he's infallible as a play caller. He did,
Sep 17, 2013, 3:19 PM
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after all, abandon the run vs Sakerlina last year.
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I've always thought Dabo turned all play calling over
Sep 17, 2013, 2:57 PM
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to Morris. I may have read it here, but I wanna say that when Morris first came Dabo was making more of the calls and we all know that wasn't turning out so well. But he certainly knows offense better than defense, so in a pinch he could go back to making call.
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Re: CM leaves = no NC***
Sep 17, 2013, 1:13 PM
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WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: CM leaves = no NC***
Sep 17, 2013, 1:13 PM
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I hope your kidding...you ppl trip me out thinking that when CM leaves its all going to H3LL....things change and football is evolving and its called a system and getting the right players in to run it...I would be willing to bet we dont lose a beat with Scott running it when CM leaves...Hes constantly learning it and I wish we could keep him around forever but we have an identity now and more guys are going to make it even better that the offense is here to stay in college football.
Beat State!
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Re: CM leaves = no NC***
Sep 17, 2013, 2:49 PM
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Not losing a beat is an over-statement, but I expect that the post-Chad Morris era won't be a radical departure from what we saw during his tenure. Dabo brought him a) because he ran the offense that Dabo wanted and b) because he was good at it. Chad Morris is an excellent coach and I believe will make as good of a head coach as a coordinator assuming that he can recruit.
Perhaps Scott is the man to run the offense if/when Morris leaves, but maybe he isn't. I'm glad that Dabo gets to decide that one. For one, he's got a lot more information to go on than I do.
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I think he would only leave for Bama
Sep 17, 2013, 1:11 PM
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But im not sure that he fits the Bama coaching mold (defense and running the ball).
Of course this is all dependant on us paying him what he deserves. Keep winning like he has recently and he deserves more money. Win a Natl Title. He will needs the biggest pay check in the ACC.
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Re: I think he would only leave for Bama
Sep 17, 2013, 2:00 PM
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Haven't you guys figured out yet that it isn't about the money with Dabo? Why do you think he gave up part of his compensation to pay the other coaches more?
I don't believe he would leave, even for the Bama job, because what can he prove there? At Clemson, although Danny Ford did win the NC, Dabo can build something at Clemson like Coach Bryant built at Alabama. He can never do anything like that there, it was already done. There is simply nothing to prove at Alabama.
If he did leave to take the Alabama job, I would be absolutely stunned and I would go to my grave thinking it was the dumbest move ever made by anyone. He has an opportunity at Clemson to do something special and have a legacy that can't be beat.
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Re: I think he would only leave for Bama
Sep 17, 2013, 2:53 PM
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You make some excellent points, but going back to your alma mater can be a huge pull. He's from Alabama and played there. That said, I can also see him staying at Clemson for the next 20+ years.
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It isnt only about the money with Dabo, but
Sep 17, 2013, 3:07 PM
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I promise you he thinks about. Given the opprotunity to set his family up to be well off for generations is something anyone would do.
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I agree
Sep 17, 2013, 1:12 PM
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Re: Dabo will not leave Clemson. IMO
Sep 17, 2013, 1:16 PM
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What if he takes us to the top this year....then we have a problem, but a great problem to have?!!!
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in that case Clemson pays him a blank check to continue
Sep 17, 2013, 1:18 PM
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if Dabo wins a national championship, then there is no way he leaves unless forced out. I see Dabo becoming what Bobby Bowden was to FSU. Maybe a stretch, but I just dont see Dabo leaving unless forced out.
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I agree that he feels intense loyalty towards Clemson. But
Sep 17, 2013, 1:16 PM
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when Mama comes calling, you have to go home.
That said, I think Dabo would need a couple more great seasons under his belt to even get the call from Bama.
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Re: Dabo will not leave Clemson. IMO
Sep 17, 2013, 1:18 PM
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I would think that will depend on how he gets along with the new AD and who the new President is. Is he assured of getting what he needs to compete' We were at this level once before and screwed it up, got behind on facilities, etc. You'd love to think we learned from that except it is all new people in place now. Do they need a how not to screw it up tutorial? Only time will tell.
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Re: Dabo will not leave Clemson. IMO
Sep 17, 2013, 1:19 PM
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I don't see Coach Swinney leaving. I think it would take quite a bit to get him to leave. As far as people thinking that when Coach Morris leaves, last I check Coach Swinney hired him. Why could he hire someone else just as good if not better. What offensive coordinator would want the Clemson job now. Look at the tools they would have from the start.
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Not to mention Deshaun Watson coming in, hes gunna
Sep 17, 2013, 1:19 PM
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be a good one.
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He'll leave for Bama IMO but I don't know.....
Sep 17, 2013, 1:20 PM
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about other locations.
But who knows? We don't know what dollars other schools will flash and other perks that maybe we can't match. We don't know where he and his family might prefer to live long-term.
We should all know by now that you never know about coaches until or when they actually say no to a situation.
Who knows? Maybe he'll head for the NFL if given the chance.
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If someone makes a significant monetary offer
Sep 17, 2013, 1:31 PM
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That Clemson can't or won't match, I'd imagine he might leave. It's not like he's some kind of Clemson lifer. He's gotta do what's best for him and his family, whatever that may be.
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Re: If someone makes a significant monetary offer
Sep 17, 2013, 1:33 PM
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At some point money is irrelevant. I mean he already gave his bonuses to his assistants.
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Maybe he's at a point where his salary doesn't matter much
Sep 17, 2013, 1:34 PM
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To him. If so, that's great for him.
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Dabo will be the replacement for the guy who
Sep 17, 2013, 1:36 PM
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replaces Saban. Never follow right after a legendary coach. Let the replacement fall apart and be the hero that picks up the pieces and rebuilds the program.
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I've said it before: It would be great for Dabo to leave
Sep 17, 2013, 1:46 PM
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Clemson to become head coach for Bama because that would mean one thing: Saban has retired and Dabo has won at least one National Championship at Clemson.
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I honestly think you guys are delusional....
Sep 17, 2013, 2:36 PM
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I think he most certainly would leave for the same exact reason CM will.
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Re: I honestly think you guys are delusional....
Sep 17, 2013, 2:55 PM
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Okay, you got me. For what reason would both Chad and Dabo leave Clemson? If you're talking about money, we have shown that we're willing to pay our coaches. We're paying Chad the same money he would make as a small school head coach, maybe more. Depending on how well the Tigers perform on and off the field the next couple years, Dabo's salary is likely to grow as well.
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Re: I honestly think you guys are delusional....
Sep 17, 2013, 3:09 PM
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To move up. Clemson, whether we like to think so or not, is not the elite job of college football...
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Dabo has proven he wants more than money
Sep 17, 2013, 3:17 PM
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because he's already pushed some of his potential salary increases to his coaches. For him it's about building the team to be a NC, I think. Until he gets there, I doubt he will leave for anything but the most prime spot. Bama may be one of the few tempting choices, but I wonder if the school would seriously offer him. He may be too much of a 'nice guy' for them. Saban is no charmer. He's an a** kicker who will make you miserable if you don't play like he wants.
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Re: Dabo has proven he wants more than money
Sep 17, 2013, 3:20 PM
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There's a lot more than money involved in other gigs. Location, school size, national exposure, recruiting and conference.
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Again, it would have to be a very prime spot
Sep 17, 2013, 3:30 PM
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to get a much better shot at most of those. Could Clemson have any better national exposure right now? If we don't "pull a...." I think the attention will stay pretty positive for at least a few seasons.
And only the very top of the SEC can compete with us for recruiting in the South.
Location? School size? I doubt that has much impact on him.
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I do not think it is delusional to believe that Dabo would
Sep 17, 2013, 3:09 PM
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stay at Clemson...Why is that so delusional? Why is it delusional to think that maybe Clemson is a good place to be? Why is not possible that Dabo wants to continue to build on this program? I think Dabo has a lot of reasons to stay at Clemson and that it is highly possible he does stay.
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Re: I do not think it is delusional to believe that Dabo would
Sep 17, 2013, 3:15 PM
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I think it's delusional to say for a fact that he won't. Not that he might. There are plenty of reason's why he would and plenty of reason why he wouldn't. I think it's likely that he will eventually move on to a better gig.
All these people who claim to know exactly what he's thinking and feeling are delusional.
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I'm curious....what exactly has Coach Swinney done or said
Sep 17, 2013, 3:30 PM
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that is inviting this type of speculation????? Particularly in the midst of a season (we've not even reached the half-way point yet) that, so far, holds much promise.
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Some people just like to stir the pot to get a lot of action
Sep 17, 2013, 3:31 PM
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here.
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I hope Dabo stays but!
Sep 17, 2013, 2:53 PM
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Being from bama! Like coach bear Bryant said ( When mama comes calling you better run to mama) Don't think he could resist!
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Never forget that Dabo found and hired both Morris and
Sep 17, 2013, 3:02 PM
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Venables. If equal caliber coaches could be had when either leave, so far it makes sense to trust Dabo to find them and pull them on board.
I worry more about Venables leaving only because I don't think Dabo knows half as much about defense as offense. He certainly loves him some WRs and QBs and we recruit the crap out of them, too.
Maybe Hobby or Reed could step up and run a good defense? Dabo also likes to reward people, so he might consider that first.
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Re: I almost wish he would just go
Sep 17, 2013, 3:16 PM
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so we can all stop talking about him going.
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