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Dabo could have hired a reputable OL coach
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Dabo could have hired a reputable OL coach

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May 13, 2022, 8:23 PM
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with experience in developing OL for the next level. Austin may turn out ok but he has NO credentials of developing OL especially for the NFL. The OL has been the biggest pitfall during his tenure. He left RC around longer than he should and then he replaces him with a Clemson culture guy with barely any experience.

If you are a big time OL recruit what would you think regarding Clemsons OL development history and current coaching?


Dabo is stubborn and it costs him. He wants show everyone he can do it his way.

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May 13, 2022, 8:26 PM
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The offense Clemson runs isn't necessarily conducive to getting the type of lineman that schools like Alabama and Georgia have recruited in years past. It's not really just Dabo being stubborn.

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May 13, 2022, 8:35 PM
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A good friend of min is an elite Oline coach at another program., and he said Dabo would not even take his calls when the job came up.

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Re: Dabo could have hired a reputable OL coach
May 13, 2022, 8:35 PM
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A good friend of min is an elite Oline coach at another program., and he said Dabo would not even take his calls when the job came up.

the job never came open. thomas austin was hired when he left ga st. it was just a matter when caldwell left.

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May 13, 2022, 11:58 PM
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you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, I have never seen you in Private Chat.

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I have seen a couple of his conversations with the press

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May 14, 2022, 1:00 AM
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After practice on YouTube. He sounds like a complete jerk! He comes across like a total ax hole!

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May 13, 2022, 8:29 PM
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Coach Swinney could’ve hired a reputable offensive coordinator like Ralph Friedgen, but he hired Chad Morris. Coach Swinney could’ve hired a reputable replacement for CM, but he replaced him with J. Scott and Tony Elliott.

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May 13, 2022, 8:31 PM
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No kidding. Sheesh the Chicken Littles on here.

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May 13, 2022, 8:34 PM
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no telling what kind of consultants/anslysts Dabo has supporting his new coaches

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May 13, 2022, 8:37 PM
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The OL has been lackluster during the majority of his tenure. OL don’t get better.

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And yet he’s been a fixture in the CFP with two titles ...

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May 13, 2022, 8:56 PM
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And he’s done all that with your “lackluster” OL ...

You have to be a special kind of brain dead to keep pushing all this stuff before it even happens.

In 2-3 years if Clemson sucks come back and say you told us so.

For now you just sound like a jealous SCAR fan.

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Almost every regular season game we have lost in the last 10 years

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May 14, 2022, 12:56 AM
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Can be directly attributed to poor play by the OL.

The single weakest position at Clemson since the Danny Ford era has been the OL.

With a decent not dominant but just above average OL Clemson would be unstoppable. We would be in the championship game almost every year.

The fact that you people can’t see serious issues staring you in the face never ceases to amaze.

There are six or eight programs around the country that every year even when as a team they suck they put offensive line players into the NFL. Boston College, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Texas A&M, and a handful of others. Even when they suck they have a really good OL. That’s because of coaching. This has been our weakness, our Achilles’ heel, and Dabo has done nothing to fix it.

We wouldn’t need a superstar quarterback to win championships if we had an above average OL.

This is a perfect example of where we could get almost any coach in the country, but Dabo refuses. This is a perfect example of where the portal would help our program, but Dabo refuses.

If you truly love Clemson and Clemson football you would want us to have the best coach at every position. The best players at every position. We have the highest paid coaching staff in the country. But it has significant weaknesses. Primarily the OL. It’s the biggest weakness on our team every year!

Any business any team any organization that had a blatantly weak point for a decade would go out and fix that problem. It’s a fiduciary duty. Fans like you are not helping the program with your blind loyalty to Dabo. He’s not Jesus. He’s not perfect. Everyone deserves constructive criticism. Everyone has Blindspot‘s and weaknesses.

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And yet, what I said still totally applies ...

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May 14, 2022, 3:19 AM
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Can’t believe you actually took the time to write all of that.

Are you kidding? That has to be the most tone deaf bunch of BS I’ve ever read.

We have actually won TWO national titles and have been a fixture in the CFP. Who cares if you feel the OL was inferior while all that GREAT STUFF was happening.

Instead of worrying about what might have been or what could be, try concentrating on the GREAT THINGS that actually happened.

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No. People like you are tone deaf.


May 16, 2022, 2:43 AM
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1. We could’ve won more with a better OL.
2. We won in spite of our bad OL not because of it.
3. The game has changed in the last three years. Wake up!
4. Look at all of the OL players predicted to come to Clemson over the last couple of years that end up going somewhere else. Including to the teams I mentioned.

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May 15, 2022, 10:06 AM
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I’d settle for fans that were appreciative of the accomplishments that Dabo has brought to Clemson. You are welcome to run on to cooterville because It seems you’d fit in better with that Sh*t show!!

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May 15, 2022, 1:05 PM
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Down to match the results we are getting

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I’m a Clemson grad moron.


May 16, 2022, 2:46 AM
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I absolutely appreciate what Dabo has done. You act like everything has to be high praise. Everything looked at through orange colored glasses. That’s not life. So again, everyone deserves constructive criticism. That’s how things improve. People like you are ridiculous. How do you survive the real world? Because you act like you live in some little perfect bubble. You sound like a Gen X crybaby!

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May 16, 2022, 10:32 AM
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Please tell me where all their titles are because of this great O line they have.

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May 16, 2022, 11:02 AM
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Your weakness seems to be your big mouth and infinite wisdom.

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May 16, 2022, 2:18 PM
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I do agree with you and the OP that the Offensive Line has been our position area with the greatest opportunity to improve. I've posted on this several times, in fact.

As for Coach being stubborn, he may be. I can understand that perspective. Frankly though, just in my opinion, he can be as stubborn as he wants because so far its worked pretty good. Dabo also strikes me as the guy that has no problem admitting fault when it's blatant and necessary to address.

All that said, I do disagree where you said Dabo has done nothing to improve the OL. I also understand the comment could also be a bit of a hyperbole.

This stuff irritates me too, especially because I do agree the OL has cost us several games we should have won (or gotten closer in our loss). BUT-we do know [Dabo is] a perfectionist. So while I have not personally observed any visible signs of improvement on the OL the last couple years, I am positive he is working on it. Heck for all I know it drives him mad, but he is always looking at a bigger picture with lots of info we are not privy to.

Obviously he can't come out and bash RC or Austin, that would be terrible for OL recruiting (which we do need some better results with players panning out).

Do I wish we hired a more established/proven OL coach and developer? Yes, I do personally. I wanted the splash and some sense that things immediately were getting better. But again, I'll have to trust Coach since he knows more than I ever will (and its his job which he has had lots of success).

I think we all want the best program we can be, with all the best players at all the positions. Critical analysis is never a bad thing (nor an O-Line that can block and keep our QB clean).

Until we see what Coach Austin can or cannot do, I think it's imperative we support him and the O-line. It may take some time, and it may suck, but I do think Coach knows best (more often than not).


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May 16, 2022, 10:43 AM
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And Clemson could have hired an experienced head coach rather than Dabo. I m sure you would have been happier with that

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Some of you folks are insane.

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May 13, 2022, 9:09 PM
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Name two programs that have done better than Clemson since Dabo was hired.

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Here's where we are at this moment

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May 14, 2022, 12:22 AM
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Maybe when Thomas Austin becomes a known quantity to recruits this will change. I certainly hope so--sick of Notre Dame.

https://twitter.com/RivalsFriedman/status/1525208680802799621

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May 16, 2022, 10:33 AM
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NIL says hello

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May 13, 2022, 9:57 PM
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Tell em Bowlhunter!

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May 13, 2022, 8:23 PM
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with experience in developing OL for the next level. Austin may turn out ok but he has NO credentials of developing OL especially for the NFL. The OL has been the biggest pitfall during his tenure. He left RC around longer than he should and then he replaces him with a Clemson culture guy with barely any experience.

If you are a big time OL recruit what would you think regarding Clemsons OL development history and current coaching?


Dabo is stubborn and it costs him. He wants show everyone he can do it his way.

yep pretty hard to believe that we could have ever played for 4 and won 2 national championships with such a hard head. do you idiots ever even read what you type before you hit enter

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No.

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May 13, 2022, 8:39 PM
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No, they don’t.

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Lol says the guy with 15 different usernames

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May 13, 2022, 8:47 PM
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can you TD me with each one? I would be impressed

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Just the one, actually.


May 13, 2022, 8:50 PM
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I’d TD you, but don’t care that you exist, coot.

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You keep telling yourself that

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May 13, 2022, 8:54 PM
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the rest of us know.

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Sounds good.

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May 13, 2022, 8:56 PM
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LMK when you come across one and I’ll copy you on a t-male to the mods personally asking them to check the IP.

Go Tigers, beat the coots.

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yuuuuuuuuuup***


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You are as obsessed as wrong.


May 15, 2022, 9:41 AM
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Carry on doh. T-net just doesn’t care.

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So you didn't have multiple handles you used to TU


May 15, 2022, 12:23 PM
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your posts and TD others? Where is the error in that statement? Answer carefully

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You’re way too obsessed and


May 15, 2022, 12:33 PM
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you repeat yourself a lot. I never TD’d anyone with the accounts I created them disclosed to the mods. I TU’d my account while another poster, as scary obsessed as you, used three accounts to TD’s me over 17k times until I ignored them. What part of this did you not understand the first time I posted this or the second, confirmed in another and now have explained again? Nobody gives AF but you and other sad trolls.


Don’t bother answering because you just don’t affect me at all, bruh.

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So you only used your multiple handles to TU yourself ,


May 15, 2022, 1:25 PM
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not to TD others? I stand corrected, I was under the assumption you used your multiple handles to do both...Still incredibly sad...but in the future, I will only reference the multiple handles you used to TU yourself and then I will be factually correct

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AA, Alanon,


May 15, 2022, 1:50 PM
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church groups, self-help books are all great ways to work on your conditions.

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Hey guy, don't shoot the messenger...I'm not the one who's


May 15, 2022, 1:57 PM
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so obsessed with the little world they made here that I am making up multiple names in an effort to protect my Tiger pulse...I'm just the guy laughing at the sad person who stooped to those levels and pointing it out

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NC Tigs begs to differ.


May 15, 2022, 2:10 PM
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AA usually has a Sunday evening meeting for the Saturday hangover crowds, so I’m told.


Best of luck to you sir.

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Wait, are you saying YOU haven't TDed his spam?***


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May 13, 2022, 10:01 PM
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Read what they type? They don't even think before they type.

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Do you read what you post?


May 16, 2022, 2:52 AM
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How did Travis ETN‘s last year go? Pretty sure it would’ve gone far better with even a mediocre OL.

How did last year go? You think we would’ve had more success with a better OL? Little bit better OL and we could’ve run the ball and been 13–0 and in the playoffs again.

I appreciate what Dabo has done. But We could’ve been much better, especially the last few years.

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You may be right.

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May 13, 2022, 8:31 PM
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But can we just let it play out before you decide that Austin, our OL, and basically our whole program is going down the tubes. This is FAR from over.

This isn't the first time Dabo has been on the ropes. My money is on his assessment, not yours.

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May 13, 2022, 8:36 PM
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I actually like the Austin hire. The OP is a liberal wack job that despises Coach Swinney’s Christian beliefs.

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May 13, 2022, 8:44 PM
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You liked the Rob Spence hire too you buffoon.

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May 13, 2022, 8:48 PM
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No I didn’t but I loved Coach Swinney firing his ### as his first act of being interim HC. Now do the proper thing and become either a Duke or UNCheat fan.

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May 13, 2022, 8:52 PM
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Lol ?? I’m sure you didn’t. Good one.

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You should stop drinking and go to bed

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May 13, 2022, 9:03 PM
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Or go back to FGF.

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See that’s a strawman.


May 16, 2022, 2:57 AM
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No one is saying the program is going down the tubes. But it has been trending down the past few years. And we have had struggles that are uncharacteristic of a program this good and it all goes back to one position group. To ignore that or attack someone for pointing it out is childish stupid and unproductive.

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Tell 'em u7c coot, no one knows losing better than you

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May 13, 2022, 8:33 PM
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nothing

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May 13, 2022, 8:48 PM
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And it hasn't worked out too bad, has it?

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When has Dabo being "stubborn" cost him?


May 13, 2022, 9:06 PM
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Name two more successful coaches since he was hired I. 2009.

Hint: you can't.

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Not using the portal is stubborn and it does harm the team


May 16, 2022, 3:00 AM
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We desperately need some depth at numerous positions and the portal would help that. We are very low on scholarship players compared to other top programs.

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May 13, 2022, 9:24 PM
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Dabo has already proven he can do it his way….I will stick with him and trust he knows a little more than I do about football.
I did coach rec league a few years but our line couldn’t block so who am I to criticize ??

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In case you haven’t noticed there have been radical changes the last three years.


May 16, 2022, 3:01 AM
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And we have had a downward trend the last three years. It’s only gonna get worse. Dabo does need to make some changes to adapt to the game. You either adapt or you die. It doesn’t happen overnight, but it will happen.

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May 13, 2022, 9:44 PM
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My gosh. The season is over 3 months away and you are already blaming a coach. Unbelievable.

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May 13, 2022, 9:54 PM
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And who are you??????

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May 13, 2022, 10:05 PM
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He’s Blue Sky. Hiding behind a bogus user name like most of the “experts” on T Net.
Ninety percent of the college football world would like to trade places with Clemson because of our unbelievable coaching staff and some have the gonads to be critical of Dabo and company. It’s scary how some could be so blind!

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30-0 coot!***


May 13, 2022, 10:02 PM
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Terry Don could have hired a “reputable” head coach . . .***

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Dabo turned out to be a lucky happy accident!


May 16, 2022, 3:04 AM
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No major program would’ve hired Dabo as a coordinator much less a head coach when Clemson did. That is a fact. Terry Don gambled and it paid off.

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May 13, 2022, 10:20 PM
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One day Dabo might figure things out and get lucky and win a natty. Wait, he’s won more than one. Ouch bro.

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May 13, 2022, 11:50 PM
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I just hope he figures things out and wins a state championship.

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Maybe he’ll folllow your advice and change

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May 13, 2022, 10:45 PM
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and we’ll win a championship one day

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May 13, 2022, 11:56 PM
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blue sky dog smells like chicken and trampled pansies

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May 14, 2022, 1:52 AM
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I don't know about the correct development in this area , , but it is a fact that the NFL is not flooded with Clemson OL. We've had about all others . . but not many OL.

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NFL also had no Clemson QBs ... until Dabo, that is.

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May 14, 2022, 3:32 AM
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Does he get credit for the 1st Round QBs if he gets dissed for the shortage of OL in the league?

I’m happy that Dabo wins his way even if the rank and file fans want to criticize his enormous success.

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May 15, 2022, 12:50 AM
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I just stated a fact. Facts don't have opinions.

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Seriously?


May 16, 2022, 3:11 AM
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First, no one is criticizing his success. Even Alabama and Nick Saban don’t do everything right. It’s called constructive criticism and everyone that believes in being super successful wants constructive criticism appreciates constructive criticism and understands it’s valuable.

Second, Steve Fuller says hello.

Third, between 1977 and 1991 Clemson was a pretty #### good football program. You people act like Clemson was South Carolina until Dabo showed up.

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I don't know about the correct development in this area , , but it is a fact that the NFL is not flooded with Clemson OL. We've had about all others . . but not many OL.


Amazing how coach manages to win almost EVERY game and not have good linemen. Just luck I guess!

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I don't know about the correct development in this area , , but it is a fact that the NFL is not flooded with Clemson OL. We've had about all others . . but not many OL.


Amazing how coach manages to win almost EVERY game and not have good linemen. Just luck I guess!

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I don't know about the correct development in this area , , but it is a fact that the NFL is not flooded with Clemson OL. We've had about all others . . but not many OL.


Amazing how coach manages to win almost EVERY game and not have good linemen. Just luck I guess!

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May 15, 2022, 12:51 AM
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It's just a fact. You don't like facts? If I'm wrong, tell me the OL in the NFL from Clemson?

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You should be the head coach then............NOT!!!!!!.....***

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May 14, 2022, 7:08 AM
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And his way has worked. Proof is in the record. Coach Dabo will make it happen. Remember “ the y don’t want little old Clemson beating the Big names” Danny proved that in the 70s early 80s.

GO TIGERS

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May 16, 2022, 4:36 AM
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I’ll respectfully point out that often an executive will promote someone he personally knows above those with seemingly more impressive credentials. Realize the importance of that knowledge.

I believe Dabo’s strength is that he knows the people associated with the program well. He knows players at Clemson camps to past players. Remember how he recognized Grady Jarrett’s talent when few did. He often has a young relative on the team, giving him the mood of the team, I imagine. Knowing someone personally, watching them through challenges as a player or lower-level coach, is tremendously valuable in predicting their performance in an important position. Foreseeing leadership ability in a coach of any kind is a factor not to overlook.

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May 15, 2022, 12:46 PM
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You CANNOT be a Clemson fan. With ALL of the success that this program has ENJOYED. You have the gall to be critical of coaches. Pls negate yourself to another fan base. May I suggest the Clucks. Then you can be a reputable fan for them.

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May 16, 2022, 3:17 AM
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Other than Jesus everyone has things that can be better that they can improve. Dabo and Clemson‘s football program is far from perfect.

I’ll promise you there are a lot of Alabama fans that criticize Nick Saban. I’d be willing to bet you have criticized him. And he’s considered the greatest football coach in college football history.

I think Bobby Bowden is because he did not have the benefit of the BCS or the college football playoff that we have now because he would be easily the head coach with the most national championships.

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May 16, 2022, 9:28 AM
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Clearly that stubborn Dabo has done it his way with two national titles.

I almost wish I’d never found this site sometimes. Never have I ever seen so many whiners and ingrates. Bring back Tommy Bowden and his average records

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