Re: Coots... we get it. You've beat us 5 in a row..

I'll give credit where it is due and give you props for that. I'll go one further and say that we deserve the heckling for that for losing 5 in a row. But that's not the point here...

You guys act as though you have far surpassed us as a program which is simply not true. It's not like you are FSU and we are UF. You didn't just win a title (of any kind) and we aren't sitting at a 4 win season.

In fact, in the past 5 years that you have beaten us, we have achieved everything BUT the national title. We've won our division, conference and even a BCS bowl and we are recruiting as well as anyone not named Alabama.

The last 3 years you guys have won 11 games, we won 10, 11 and 11. I'd hardly call that being way behind. So again, let me be clear, yes head to head games you guys have clearly dominated the last 5 years but that is the only thing you can point to. Everything else we have done has been right in step or better in terms of overall achievements.

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Jul 30, 2014, 4:54 PM

Good post. Someone posted a thread from Gamecock fans a couple day's ago, and I wasted my time reading it. I did so knowing that I could have written it myself - that is, they regurgitate the same old rhetoric over and over and over again.

And yes, to your post, we constantly get the "our program has surpassed Clemson, and we are looking at you in the rear view mirror" BS.

The rhetoric is so hopelessly repetitive that I feel like all their fans do anymore is "cut and paste."

But what is going on with the streak right now has happened before, and likely more than once.

One time that comes to mind for me was an up and coming young coach in the early nineties that recruited very well, won at a very high level, achieved national rankings at a consistent rate and was very competitive in AND out of his own conference...with one exception.

BOTTOM LINE: He was an overall winner, but his program could not beat their chief rival. Like Spurrier and USC today, it was a program coached by a seasoned veteran highly successful coach.

He went 1-4-1 in his first 6 games against the veteran. Had they played overtimes in those days, I'm convinced the record would have been 1-5.

1-5 is very familiar to all of us when talking about Swinney vs. Spurrier.

In the early nineties, however, the 1-4-1 belonged to none other than Steve Spurrier vs Bobby Bowden.

For those not familiar with those years, FL led FL ST 31-3 beginning the 4th quarter of the regular season game. FL ST won the 4th quarter 28-0 to gain the tie. Both were highly nationally ranked going into the game.

The pollsters decided that this rivalry left unfinished business on the field and matched them up in a bowl game. FL ST kept their regular season 4th quarter momentum in the bowl game and won.

So there you have it in the first 6 games: Spurrier vs Bowden, 1-4-1; Swinney vs. Spurrier, 1-5.

These two coaches, Swinney and Spurrier, have paralleled each other in their career beginnings.

If you're a Gamecock fan reading this, YES, I am favorably comparing the early careers of the two coaches. So don't go back to your boards and write more rhetoric about your perceived insanity via a Clemson fan about "using Spurrier and Swinney" in the same sentence. I've already seen that BS before, too.

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Coots... we get it. You've beat us 5 in a row..

But they are in the SEC, so all your points are invalid***

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