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Legend [16439]
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Coots finished #4 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE BCS
Jan 7, 2014, 10:18 PM
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They passed all the losers of BCS games...you know, the teams who actually played somebody (not 17 ranked jokes)
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good point , didnt think of that , but you are correct*
Jan 7, 2014, 10:19 PM
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All-TigerNet [11934]
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... and they avoided both Alabama and Auburn regular season
Jan 8, 2014, 10:51 AM
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... and they avoided having to face Auburn in the SEC Title Game.
Those are three almost certain loses they avoided (in addition to a tough BCS Bowl match-up) en route to #4 ranking.
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Oculus Spirit [83066]
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Didn't play LSU or A&M either.***
Jan 8, 2014, 2:18 PM
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Re: Coots finished #4 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE BCS
Jan 7, 2014, 10:44 PM
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We played 2 "BCS" teams before the bowl season...
Beat them both.
One was UCF, I forget who the other team was.
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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Tennessee?***
Jan 7, 2014, 10:50 PM
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Don't worry. In the new playoff system
Jan 8, 2014, 1:29 AM
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USC would have gotten a bid over Clemson.
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Re: Don't worry. In the new playoff system
Jan 8, 2014, 1:32 AM
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Neither of us would have because the bowl games would not have mattered. You are ranked 4th because all the good teams played good teams. The ones that lost allowed you to move up by beating an awesome Wisconsin team.
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Re: Don't worry. In the new playoff system
Jan 8, 2014, 1:36 AM
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> Neither of us would have because the bowl games would
> not have mattered. You are ranked 4th because all
> the good teams played good teams. The ones that lost
> allowed you to move up by beating an awesome
> Wisconsin team.
wut.
The selection committee that seeds the top 4 teams also sets the matchups for the 4 bowls that are not hosting semi-finals that year. No number limit for conferences so its gonna be based on their rankings
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All-TigerNet [10345]
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Re: Don't worry. In the new playoff system
Jan 8, 2014, 1:38 AM
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Let me explain this to you so simple coot mind can understand. Where were you ranked before bowl season? Do you understand now. You don't play all the bowl games and then seed the 4 teams. The 4 teams are selected for the playoff then the other games are played. Your 4th place ranking is after everything has been settled not before it started.
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Let me spell things out for you
Jan 8, 2014, 1:50 AM
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I wasn't saying we'd get in the playoff. I was saying we'd get in the equivalent of a BCS bowl which will be one of the 6 bowls that host semi-finals but are in an off season.
Those bowls are also selected by the playoff committee and they are likely to select the teams they have ranked 5-12 to fill the bowls
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Re: Let me spell things out for you
Jan 8, 2014, 2:30 AM
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Then I apologize for misunderstanding you. The bottom line is you will never play for anything of significance. You will not win the SEC,you will not win a BCS bowl equivalent as you call it,you will not win the Playoff. Spin it however you want you will remain a baseball school for eternity. Also we were in the top 12 ranking as well,so why do you think you would get a bid over us if it is based on ranking? From what I understand the committee will decide not our ranking.
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Yea
Jan 8, 2014, 2:36 AM
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Because it would be under the new playoff system and not the BCS system.
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Re: Nice edit and rant***
Jan 8, 2014, 9:33 AM
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That all you got now? I proved my point. Nice lack of response.
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Re: Let me spell things out for you
Jan 8, 2014, 7:48 AM
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> Then I apologize for misunderstanding you. The
> bottom line is you will never play for anything of
> significance. You will not win the SEC,you will not
> win a BCS bowl equivalent as you call it,you will not
> win the Playoff. Spin it however you want you will
> remain a baseball school for eternity. Also we were
> in the top 12 ranking as well,so why do you think you
> would get a bid over us if it is based on ranking?
> From what I understand the committee will decide not
> t our ranking.
Really Whitehurst? You can read the future, right? I bet five years ago you would've said the Coots will never finish in the top-10, never finish in the top-10 three years in a row, never finish ranked higher than Clemson, never beat Clemson five times in a row. In fact, I'll bet folks here can go back a couple months and find where you probably predicted the Coots would not beat Clemson this year. You and others like you are ones who makes this fan base look foolish with your brash and profane talk. I get it though, you can condemn any team to failure and propel the tigers to greatness just because YOU proclaim it. Fact is, the Coots have a #### good football team and so do the Tigers. Right now, Spurrier is a better coach than Dabo, and the chances for ongoing Coot success is pretty good. And lastly, I'm just curious, are you capable of carrying on an intelligent conversation with anyone who has a different opinion than you or is your only retort always going to be "get out of here you (insert expletive) coot!" But, at least you did apologize so I guess there is hope.
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Oculus Spirit [81884]
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Except not, the other 4 Play-Off caliber bowls (will they be
Jan 8, 2014, 8:48 AM
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called BCS?) still would've picked us to play, probably y'all as well.
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"Would have" is the key
Jan 8, 2014, 6:24 AM
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Last season is over. Don't assume beating Clemson, or anyone else for that matter, is a given. Connor Shaw was the key to most of the Gamecock victories. He was a true competitor. Likewise, I assume nothing for the upcoming season. It will be an adventure with a lot of new players in key positions. Hopefully, they can carry on...
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All-In [35206]
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Really? They'll pick you over an FSU, MSU, Auburn, Bama etc?
Jan 8, 2014, 1:37 AM
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And I hate to play forecaster but I wouldn't sleep on Oregon, Oklahoma, Baylor and others to push for one of those spots next season. And don't forget you have road games @ Auburn and Clemson next year.
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Trudy palmetto son
Jan 8, 2014, 1:52 AM
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Re: Coots finished #4 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE BCS***
Jan 8, 2014, 5:56 AM
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Re: Coots finished #4 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE BCS
Jan 8, 2014, 5:57 AM
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Why can't Clemson beat Carolina?
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110%er [7148]
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Your coach seems to think we just don't play well
Jan 8, 2014, 7:29 AM
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against you....
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Why can't Clemson beat Carolina.
Jan 8, 2014, 6:22 AM
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1. State championships don't matter to them
2. Who won this year don't matter but who won the most games in the 50's does.
3. They are depleted from a brutal conference schedule.
4. Dabo is too busy thinking of comebacks for the obc's one liners.
5. 5 stars don't match up with 3 stars that well.
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Clemson beat Carolina the last time we played
Jan 8, 2014, 6:28 AM
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and has won the game the last 4 out of 5.
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This year.***
Jan 8, 2014, 8:45 AM
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I wish we did. I have to listen all year to ...
Jan 8, 2014, 9:00 AM
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Clemson has never won in Chapel Hill.
Will you hand me my cranberry white wine spritzer Muffy ?
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Orange Blooded [4947]
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It is possible you would get in
Jan 8, 2014, 6:56 AM
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But you just assume it will be the top 12. Bowl tie-ins are still a part of this new system. Let's say FSU, auburn, bama, and MSU get in the playoff. That means mizzou plays Oklahoma in the champs bowl. Stanford plays ohio state in the rose bowl. Clemson plays the next highest big 10/sec/Nd. And Baylor plays either scar, Oregon, or UCF. Would the bowl want to rematch Scar in the orange bowl? Most likely not and they may reward the conference champ UCF with the last pick. So you might not be getting into a bcs bowl if they played out like this season.
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Re: Coots finished #4 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE BCS
Jan 8, 2014, 7:17 AM
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Tu, Griff.....excellent point. Btw, I was truly sorry to see the responses you got from immature (and downright nasty) posters yesterday when you posted your wife's pic of the awesome tiger paw crown. I expect better from our own.
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Legend [16439]
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That was disappointing
Jan 8, 2014, 7:41 AM
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Won't put myself in that position again. Glad someone pointed out that I could take it down.
People can be so nasty. I wonder what some of those smart alecks might look like from a similarly zoomed in perspective.
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Re: That was disappointing
Jan 8, 2014, 7:52 AM
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Griff, most aren't willing to "put themselves out there" for similar ridicule. I just think it's a shame when you can't go to a Clemson site and show off your pride and devotion without ppl jumping on you.
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Agree 1000%
Jan 8, 2014, 2:12 PM
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Did not get the responses I was hoping for...not all of them, anyway
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Legend [16439]
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Let me clear it up Coots
Jan 8, 2014, 7:39 AM
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If you had gotten a BCS bid and won, you would still be no better than #4. If you had gotten a BCS bid (and played someone tougher than Wisconsin) and lost, you would be significantly lower than #4.
You benefitted in the final rankings from missing the BCS and getting an easy assignment in a lesser bowl. You won the war of attrition.
I never said that you didn't deserve your ranking; I only gave an opinion on how you got so high. I know you beat us on the field. I am not convinced that the better team won, but you won, and deserve to be ranked ahead of us.
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Re: Let me clear it up Coots
Jan 8, 2014, 7:56 AM
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Yeah, I really wanted a piece of OSU.
We beat them in the Outback Bowl a while back...
And some of my co-workers here in Washington are loud-mouthed OSU alum/fans.
I have enjoyed pointing out that they are now 0-4 against the State of South Carolina in bowl games now!
Also about the bowl game thing...
I really wanted the Cotton Bowl, but they kept a more regional pick with Mizz.
Anyway, hats off to you for putting OSU in their place.
And hats off for validating your season.
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Re: Let me clear it up Coots
Jan 8, 2014, 7:56 AM
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> If you had gotten a BCS bid and won, you would still
> be no better than #4. If you had gotten a BCS bid
> (and played someone tougher than Wisconsin) and lost,
> you would be significantly lower than #4.
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> You benefitted in the final rankings from missing the
> BCS and getting an easy assignment in a lesser bowl.
> You won the war of attrition.
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> I never said that you didn't deserve your ranking; I
> only gave an opinion on how you got so high. I know
> you beat us on the field. I am not convinced that
> the better team won, but you won, and deserve to be
> ranked ahead of us.
Kind of underscores the unimportance of a non-championship BCS bowl game doesn't it? By the way, the Coots beat two BCS bowl game participants, and three who finished in the top-10. How is it assumed they would have lost in a BCS bowl game. Ohio State only beat Wisconsin by a touchdown by the way. They were probably pretty evenly matched teams.
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Would not have finished higher than 4 even with a BCS win
Jan 8, 2014, 2:16 PM
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But they passed 4 BCS losers to get to #4
Just saying Wisconsin was an easier opponent. I am not questioning their ranking, just offering my take on it.
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110%er [7157]
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only reason they finish in the top ten in recent history
Jan 8, 2014, 8:20 AM
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Is because of us… if we would quit playing like dog dookie against them they would fade back to obscurity.
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Re: Coots finished #4 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE BCS
Jan 8, 2014, 10:19 AM
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I have never seen people so jealous of a number 4 ranking.
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Explain how mocking you = we're jealous?***
Jan 8, 2014, 10:19 AM
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Re: Explain how mocking you = we're jealous?***
Jan 8, 2014, 11:00 AM
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It was Clemson University's job to educate you, not mine.
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Oculus Spirit [81884]
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Apparently whomever educated you failed.***
Jan 8, 2014, 11:04 AM
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as opposed to a 23rd ranked WVU in a BCS bowl??***
Jan 8, 2014, 10:55 AM
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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who they lost to should keep them out of top ten***
Jan 8, 2014, 11:06 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83066]
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Or because they beat us. If we had beaten them, they
Jan 8, 2014, 2:17 PM
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would be about 14 or 15.
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