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Climate change deniers I want you to watch this
Apr 28, 2022, 10:35 AM
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and tell me what you think. Does this have any parallels to today? Scientists were hired to lie to you, so that corporations could make additional profits? I've heard arguments that humans can't affect something as large as the atmosphere. This same scenario is playing out right now. Interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV3dnLzthDA
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Re: Climate change deniers I want you to watch this
Apr 28, 2022, 11:34 AM
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“Scientists were hired to lie to you, so that corporations could make additional profits”
You talking about Covid vaccines???
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Re: Climate change deniers I want you to watch this
Apr 28, 2022, 12:02 PM
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Leaded gas, tobacco, CFC, Sulfuric Acid
The point is man made climate change is real. Anyone that denies that just doesn't want to believe the truth.
I don't expect to get completely off of fossil fuels, but the sooner we lower it the better.
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clarify the last one, sulfur dioxide (acid rain) was covered
Apr 28, 2022, 12:10 PM
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up for years.
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Re: clarify the last one, sulfur dioxide (acid rain) was covered
Apr 28, 2022, 12:18 PM
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Yeah...but acid rain ultimately got fixed when we changed our smelting industry...as did the ozone layer, which is now busily repairing itself and should be back to optimal by the late 2030's because we stopped dumping CFC's into the atmosphere.
Carbon's a tougher sell because it's produced by more products, but it's hardly impossible. We're switching over to renewables.
The question is...can we do it fast enough to avoid cataclysmic damage?
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CU Guru [1522]
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cap and trade
Apr 28, 2022, 12:22 PM
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was the big driver in reducing acid rain. Something that can also be implemented with carbon emissions.
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Re: clarify the last one, SO2 ... props for recognizing CFCs
May 7, 2022, 3:42 PM
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Really late here; watched an Elizabeth Warren clip and went into an opiate haze ... just waking up.
I'm not going to start on you and the other TNet aficionados of man-made-CO2 climate change about that unproven theory.
Instead, I want to applaud those of you who recognized the CFC / "ozone hole" problem from decades ago. This was a case of real science that was correctly applied.
CFCs (or more accurately, bromo-carbons & chloro-bromo carbons & the 'classic' CFCs) have a catalytic effect with regard to the degradation of ozone.
Catalytic effect means that a very small amount of CFC will react again and again with ozone without the CFC actually being degraded itself in the reaction.
Man made pollutants which have a catalytic mechanism can (as is/was the case with CFCs) indeed impact the atmosphere in a tangible way.
Regards to all.
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you should have taken it easy
Apr 28, 2022, 12:20 PM
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on the lead paint chips as a kid.
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Re: Climate change deniers I want you to watch this
Apr 28, 2022, 6:26 PM
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Cloud seeding can reduce global warming tremendously. Cloud cover is the only variable no one really factors in while discussing warming.
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"Scientists were hired to lie to you"
Apr 28, 2022, 11:36 AM
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sounds awful like a system in which grants are dependent on the outcome of research...
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Re: "Scientists were hired to lie to you"
Apr 28, 2022, 11:39 AM
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Yep. Try being a college professor that has research that states; man isn’t causing climate change. See what that does to your federally funded research.
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Well, yea. They don't usually want to give funds to stupid
Apr 28, 2022, 11:58 AM
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people.
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Re: Well, yea. They don't usually want to give funds to stupid
Apr 28, 2022, 7:20 PM
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Well, that’s a fkn lie.
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Good luck getting boomers to admit that
Apr 28, 2022, 11:39 AM
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they severely compromised the ability of future generations to live on this planet.
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Re: Good luck getting boomers to admit that
Apr 28, 2022, 4:20 PM
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You keep talking about boomer. Esiason? I thought he was a good QB.
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Re: Good luck getting boomers to admit that
Apr 28, 2022, 6:28 PM
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Lol, sorry Balm but I think people on all ends of the spectrum ( including boomers) have played their part in trashing the planet.
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Are there any climate change deniers left out there? I think
Apr 28, 2022, 11:56 AM
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everyone agrees there is climate change? I also think that almost everyone agrees that humans contribute to it.
The rub is how much do humans contribute to it and is it enough to be concerned about for the next hundred years?
Also, how much should our government hinder private business in this country for something that may be irreversible unless the whole world buys in, especially China, Russia, India, Pakistan, and many African countries who have huge greenhouse gas emissions like us.
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This is the adult debate around climate change.***
Apr 28, 2022, 11:59 AM
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Re: Are there any climate change deniers left out there? I think
Apr 28, 2022, 12:01 PM
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Russia's footprint is negligible, India still burns wood, so there is that. But consumption is the major driver here. 3rd world sweatshops would not be contributing to the problem if we did not live in a disposable consumer economy. Everything you buy increases your footprint, and we buy a lot of crap.
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This is where you lose basically all of the support on the
Apr 28, 2022, 12:05 PM
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Right for climate action. It reinforces the coded messaging of radical environmental groups that climate change is basically a trojan horse for anti-capitalism -- which it is for them.
I'm not arguing whether you are right or wrong, but this is the biggest blocker of bipartisan support for proactive steps on climate.
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Re: This is where you lose basically all of the support on the
Apr 28, 2022, 12:16 PM
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I disagree with "radical environmental groups that climate change is basically a trojan horse for anti-capitalism"
That is a concept that has been conveyed to you through right wing media.
90% of this country loves capitalism. Plus no one has a true capitalist economy. There is benefit to regulation.
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Re: This is where you lose basically all of the support on the
Apr 28, 2022, 1:56 PM
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Re: This is where you lose basically all of the support on the
Apr 28, 2022, 6:32 PM
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Yep! Where there is a glaring problem, someone (our officials) will be standing close by looking to make some sort of profit of others misery! I’ll bet all those people who had to take hundreds of mask home after trying to sell them for 30$ a pop.
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Yeah, there are
Apr 28, 2022, 12:19 PM
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I invite them to have discussions with mayors and city councils of every coastal town in America, regardless of political affiliation. They'll find it's quite a bipartisan concern in those venues.
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Why is it so important that the climate zealots convince
Apr 28, 2022, 1:10 PM
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everyone about their cause ??
Just take up a collection from the believers and fix it with your money.
You can fix it with money, right ? I mean, that's what all the urgency is about ... $$$
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Re: Why is it so important that the climate zealots convince
Apr 28, 2022, 1:31 PM
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LOL, that right there explains a lot.
Its not a cause SMH
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so he just made it worse by putting more pollutants in the
Apr 28, 2022, 1:36 PM
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air by burning himself. Good job leftie
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bet he used fossil fuel***
Apr 28, 2022, 1:41 PM
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^^^^believes in 20 genders and men can produce babies^^^^***
Apr 28, 2022, 1:38 PM
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just follow the science ... except when we don't***
Apr 28, 2022, 1:40 PM
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Also doesn't believe in XY chromosomes. cause science***
Apr 28, 2022, 1:51 PM
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Re: Climate change deniers I want you to watch this
Apr 28, 2022, 6:25 PM
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Cloud seeding has been going on since Vietnam. You can absolutely impact the atmosphere. It’s a proven fact that silver iodide crystals were released during Vietnam to manipulate the weather and flood supply lines.
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i remember when the science was settled that
Apr 28, 2022, 7:24 PM
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oil came from dinosaurs
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Re: i remember when the science was settled that
Apr 28, 2022, 11:20 PM
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We can’t have balloons anymore at Death Valley because of a rare turtle in New Zealand.
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