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Clemson's Roster Talent
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Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 9:40 AM

As things currently stand...

Clemson's 2021 roster had

Overall talent: 89.5

5 stars: 10

4 stars: 42

3 stars: 27

2 stars: 1

Top 1000 recruits: 74



Clemson's 2022 roster has

Overall talent: 81.75

5 stars: 12

4 stars: 39

3 stars: 26

2 stars: 1

Top 1000 recruits: 66



If we lose more players to the portal over spring and summer... mannnn

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DJ For Year 2021 Should Count as -10 Star***


Feb 10, 2022, 9:55 AM



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Re: DJ For Year 2021 Should Count as -10 Star***


Feb 10, 2022, 10:19 AM

HAHAHAHAH WOW THAT WAS A GREAT ONE HAHAHAH

Do you make jokes about all 20 year olds or just one's that are missing 6 scholly WRs, both starting TEs, 3 of 5 OLs, and RB1 and RB2?

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Re: DJ For Year 2021 Should Count as -10 Star***


Feb 10, 2022, 1:47 PM


HAHAHAHAH WOW THAT WAS A GREAT ONE HAHAHAH

Do you make jokes about all 20 year olds or just one's that are missing 6 scholly WRs, both starting TEs, 3 of 5 OLs, and RB1 and RB2?



I think -10 is very generous. He is directly responsible for the Uga and Pitt losses with the pick 6’s. And his play all year could have cost the team more than that. 10 years from now people will look back at this team and think what a waste because a QB they depended on was a mental case.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 10:13 AM

Numbers mean very little or Bama would be undefeated the last 10 years.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 10:16 AM

Numbers don’t always equal talent.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 10:19 AM

I think we will loose a few during the spring but we will be in a better place than 2021.

Go Tigers!!!!!

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 10:22 AM

Dabo better tighten up that roster!

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 10:59 AM [ in reply to Re: Clemson's Roster Talent ]

I think OL or DL could see some transfers depending on how the post-spring depth chart plays out

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 3:12 PM [ in reply to Re: Clemson's Roster Talent ]

Numbers mean everything as Bama's multiple CFP selections & titles clearly display-

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 3:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Clemson's Roster Talent ]

Numbers mean everything as Bama's multiple CFP selections & titles clearly display-

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 10:53 AM

I need some explanation on these numbers.

Just from a math standpoint I get that there are currently 2 less players on the '22 roster which will decrease the talent. How much of the almost 8 points does that cover?

The part I don't understand is the difference of 74 top 1000 players to 66 top 1000 players and yet there is only a difference of 1 less 3 star and the same number of 2 star players.

Are player near 1000 overall ranked 1 star?

I would have thought the top 1000 would be mostly 3 star or better with maybe a few 2 star players at the end.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 11:00 AM

5 stars = 1.5

4 stars = 1.25

Top 1000 = 1

NR = 0

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 11:20 AM



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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 11:28 AM



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Bring it…


Feb 10, 2022, 2:12 PM

Don’t sing it.

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I mean...


Feb 10, 2022, 11:28 AM

Clemson isn't the only one affected by the portal and won't be the only upper level team who has depth tested this year.

For now, it's what we, and plenty of teams, have to deal with.

Hopefully before the end of the year we have some stricter guidelines in place that make the portal less volatile and more structured so folks jumping around willy nilly can slow down some.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 12:30 PM

I don't get your math or numbers. We gain two 5 stars, lose three 4 stars and one 3 star. Maybe it's over my head but you need to explain it better. Based on those numbers we lose 2 overall players according to your 2 through 5 star players yet we lose 8 top 1000 players? I have to think that a top 1000 player would be represented in those 2 through 5 star rankings so where are we losing the other 6 at? You telling me there are six 1 star or walk-on top 1000 players? Just don't understand your math nor your numbers.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 12:35 PM

I just don't get the fear mongering. Clemson did a decent job with everything that went on with this recruiting class. It wasn't much worse than any other year. Clemson has been all over the rankings under Dabo from top 5 to top 20. I mean can we at least wait another year when Clemson and the coaching staff has smoothed itself out before we scream bloody murder? That's why I think a lot of people on this board has been Clemson fans for no longer than 5 or so years. Thats what you get with band wagon guys though.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 1:12 PM

Signees ranked outside the top 1000...

2022: 8
2021: 1
2020: 2
2019: 2
2018: 1
2017: 0
2016: 3
2015: 5
2014: 4
2013: 3
2012: 0
2011: 10


Sooo, the most since 2011...



Top 1000 recruits

2022: 11
2021: 18
2020: 21
2019: 27
2018: 16
2017: 14
2016: 18
2015: 19
2014: 15
2013: 19
2012: 15
2011: 18
2010: 13
2009: 10


Sooo, the least amount since 2009...




This was one of Dabo's worst classes.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 10:09 PM

Y Rank Avg AP finish
22-10=.9011
21-5=.9401 9 15
20-3=.9344 7 3
19-10=.8976 2
18-7=.9345 1
17-16=.9210 4
16-11=.9030 1
15-9=.8912 2
14-16=.8869 15
13-15=.8846 8
12-20=.8903 11
11-10=.8717 22
Clemson played in and won national championships with classes lower rated than this years. In fact, Clemson was better before starting to sign top 5 classes. Your idiotic rating system is hilarious. Clemson has signed 6 classes worse than this one since 2011.

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 12:56 PM [ in reply to Re: Clemson's Roster Talent ]

5 stars = 1.50

4 stars = 1.25

3 stars/top 1000 = 1.00

3 stars/NR = 0

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 2:19 PM

Thanks as always Leon. I know you're just putting numbers up as you always do. Not sure how any Clemson fan could TD the post. The coaches know. Let's just hope that Dabo has identified some talent a la 2011, 12, 13, and 14. Woodaz is one I think was rated lower. As was the CB we inked.

There's no denying we had a bad year compared to previous years. Coaches know they got jammed up and had nothing to do with BV leaving. Good thing is, no transfer has hurt us so far. That said, we had more busts (guys ranked high like Tchio, Lyn J etc that never developed) the last few years than the 4 previous years 13-17.

Thanks for posting again. Need to rock it the next two cycles.

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To bad there is no such thing as player development


Feb 10, 2022, 12:58 PM

and recruits remain exactly as they were in high school

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Re: To bad there is no such thing as player development


Feb 10, 2022, 1:13 PM

Having less talent is the key to success in the portal era. Dabo is playing chess while the other loses are stuck on checkers.

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Re: To bad there is no such thing as player development


Feb 10, 2022, 3:16 PM

Too early to make that statement, right now it's just blowing smoke

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Re: To bad there is no such thing as player development


Feb 10, 2022, 2:03 PM [ in reply to To bad there is no such thing as player development ]

UGA, Bama, and OSU all develop players as well. They also take from the portal and don't waste nearly as many scholarships on guys that will never play. We're falling behind.

We better have a huge 23 class.

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At least the “Dabo refuses to use the portal” complaints…


Feb 10, 2022, 2:33 PM [ in reply to To bad there is no such thing as player development ]

have stopped.

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Re: At least the “Dabo refuses to use the portal” complaints…


Feb 10, 2022, 3:20 PM

Or given up

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Re: Clemson's Roster Talent


Feb 10, 2022, 3:40 PM

How many of those 4 and 5 stars were hurt some of most of 2021 ?

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